Profession of Faith During the Mass

[dsimo]

Can a new Profession of Faith be created during Mass.

Such as

Christ Has Died.
Christ Has Risen.
Christ will Come Again.

I attended Mass this morning and was surprised that a new prayer was recited. None of the traditional prayers were recited.

Thank you

 

[benedictgal]

Do you mean Mysterium Fideum (Let us proclaim the mystery of Faith) or the actual Profession of Faith?

If the priest used the memorial acclamation as a profession of faith than that is wrong. You are to pray either the NIcene or Apostles Creed, or, in lieu of that, renew your Baptismal Promises (especially during the Easter Vigil and the Easter Season). However, no one has the authority to invent or impose his own Creed.

Now, as far as the Mysterium Fideum (Mystery of Faith), there are four allowed. Three of them address Christ in the second person (Lord, by your cross and resurrection you have set us free, you are the savior of the world. When we eat this bread and drink this cup, we proclaim your death, Lord Jesus, until you come in glory. Dying, you destroyed our death, rising you restored our life, Lord Jesus, come in glory).

The fourth one, the one you quoted, refers to Christ in the third question. Unfortutnately, according to George Cardnial Pell, this was not in the original Roman Missal (Novus Ordo) and was inserted. You don’t find this in the Latin version. Furthermore, sadly, this is also the one that is most commonly used. However, until the new ICEL translation of the Roman Missal comes about, we’re bound to what is in the current Roman Missal.

 

[thistle]

Can a new Profession of Faith be created during Mass.

Such as

Christ Has Died.
Christ Has Risen.
Christ will Come Again.
I attended Mass this morning and was surprised that a new prayer was recited. None of the traditional prayers were recited.

Thank you

This is not the Profession of Faith. It is the Proclamation of the Mystery of our Faith and it is certainly not new.

 

[Joysong]

Christ Has Died.
Christ Has Risen.
Christ will Come Again.

Being more than a mere shadow, yet less than the full eschatological reality which is yet to come, the Church’s worship can be described as an ‘image’ of the eternal heavenly Liturgy. Ratzinger sees this ‘between-time’ status of the New Covenant as manifested in “the three levels on which Christian worship operates”:

… it looks back to the foundational events of salvation history, culminating in the Cross and Resurrection of the Saviour;
… it celebrates these events liturgically, above all in the re-enactment of Jesus’ words and actions at the Last Supper, through which His unique sacrifice is made present and effective;
… and it looks forward to our perfect union with Him in glory - a union which begins even now as we are ‘taken up’ into Christ and incorporated more fully into Him by our reception of His Body and Blood. (The Spirit of Liturgy, p 54)

The Pope’s (then Cardinal Ratzinger) words which explain our worship are said very simply by the faithful in the threefold Mystery of Faith we proclaim, but they embody the rich theological explanation above. We don’t focus on only one aspect to the detriment of the other two, but celebrate all three.

Rather concise wording, isn’t it — yet very profound! Would that all might understand their meaning!

 

[AlexV]

Would that the US Bishops might one day provide a translation of the Latin original that wouldn’t get a C or worse from a Latin professor!

 

[japhy]

This is not the Profession of Faith. It is the Proclamation of the Mystery of our Faith and it is certainly not new.

It’s new-ish. It’s only 38 years old, more or less. It’s not even found in the Latin Missale Romanum. It’s an ICEL invention! It’s in the third person: whereas the other three acclamations are spoken directly to Jesus, this is spoke about him… to whom? It’s also given “pride of place” in the English Missal, by being Option 1, supplanting the 3 found in the Latin Missal.

 

[AngelRose81]

Do you mean Mysterium Fideum (Let us proclaim the mystery of Faith) or the actual Profession of Faith?

If the priest used the memorial acclamation as a profession of faith than that is wrong. You are to pray either the NIcene or Apostles Creed, or, in lieu of that, renew your Baptismal Promises (especially during the Easter Vigil and the Easter Season). However, no one has the authority to invent or impose his own Creed.

Now, as far as the Mysterium Fideum (Mystery of Faith), there are four allowed. Three of them address Christ in the second person (Lord, by your cross and resurrection you have set us free, you are the savior of the world. When we eat this bread and drink this cup, we proclaim your death, Lord Jesus, until you come in glory. Dying, you destroyed our death, rising you restored our life, Lord Jesus, come in glory).

The fourth one, the one you quoted, refers to Christ in the third question. Unfortutnately, according to George Cardnial Pell, this was not in the original Roman Missal (Novus Ordo) and was inserted. You don’t find this in the Latin version. Furthermore, sadly, this is also the one that is most commonly used. However, until the new ICEL translation of the Roman Missal comes about, we’re bound to what is in the current Roman Missal.

We hardly ever use the one mentioned in the OP during daily mass. We usually use one of the others.

 

[ALLGIRLS]

Is the Profession of Faith recited during weekday masses? (Unfortunately, I very rarely can attend daily mass, and I can’t remember). Since the OP is talking about mass on Jan. 8, a Tuesday (and my Grandma’s 101st birthday, I might add, God bless her! ), he (or she?), must be talking about the Mysterium Fidea (sp?). I’m only 37 next month, so it’s not “new” to me , but I’ve only recently heard it’s really “not allowed” by the Roman Missel. Actually, at my church, we hardly ever recite that one (I guess we’re pretty orthodox ).

In Christ,

Ellen

 

[japhy]

Is the Profession of Faith recited during weekday masses? (Unfortunately, I very rarely can attend daily mass, and I can’t remember). Since the OP is talking about mass on Jan. 8, a Tuesday (and my Grandma’s 101st birthday, I might add, God bless her! ), he (or she?), must be talking about the Mysterium Fidea (sp?). I’m only 37 next month, so it’s not “new” to me , but I’ve only recently heard it’s really “not allowed” by the Roman Missel. Actually, at my church, we hardly ever recite that one (I guess we’re pretty orthodox ).

Yeah, you bring up a good point. The Profession of Faith (the Creed) is only recited on feasts or solemnities, not ferial days. Some weekdays are feasts or solemnities, so sometimes the Creed is recited during the week. But I don’t think Jan. 8th is such a day.