Prophet like Unto Moses : here we go

[ralphinal]

Jesus raised from the dead 3 people:

1. the only son of a widow from Nain (Luke 7:11-14)

And it came to pass the day after, that he went into a city called Nain; and many of his disciples went with him, and much people.
7:12 Now when he came nigh to the gate of the city, behold, there was a dead man carried out, the only son of his mother, and she was a widow: and much people of the city was with her.
7:13 And when the Lord saw her, he had compassion on her, and said unto her, Weep not.
7:14 And he came and touched the bier: and they that bare [him] stood still. And he said, Young man, I say unto thee, Arise.
7:15 And he that was dead sat up, and began to speak. And he delivered him to his mother.

1. the daughter of the religious leader Jairus (Mark 5:22-43)

22 One of the synagogue officials named Jairus came up, and on seeing Him, fell at His feet

23and implored Him earnestly, saying, “My little daughter is at the point of death; please come and lay Your hands on her, so that she will get well and live.”

24And He went off with him; and a large crowd was following Him and pressing in on Him.

25A woman who had had a hemorrhage for twelve years,

26and had endured much at the hands of many physicians, and had spent all that she had and was not helped at all, but rather had grown worse–

27after hearing about Jesus, she came up in the crowd behind Him and touched His cloak.

28For she thought, “If I just touch His garments, I will get well.”

29Immediately the flow of her blood was dried up; and she felt in her body that she was healed of her affliction.

30Immediately Jesus, perceiving in Himself that the power proceeding from Him had gone forth, turned around in the crowd and said, “Who touched My garments?”

31And His disciples said to Him, “You see the crowd pressing in on You, and You say, ‘Who touched Me?’”

32And He looked around to see the woman who had done this.

33But the woman fearing and trembling, aware of what had happened to her, came and fell down before Him and told Him the whole truth.

34And He said to her, “Daughter, your faith has made you well; go in peace and be healed of your affliction.”

35While He was still speaking, they came from the house of the synagogue official, saying, “Your daughter has died; why trouble the Teacher anymore?”
36But Jesus, overhearing what was being spoken, said to the synagogue official, “Do not be afraid any longer, only believe.”
37And He allowed no one to accompany Him, except Peter and James and John the brother of James.
38They came to the house of the synagogue official; and He saw a commotion, and people loudly weeping and wailing.
39And entering in, He said to them, “Why make a commotion and weep? The child has not died, but is asleep.”
40They began laughing at Him. But putting them all out, He took along the child’s father and mother and His own companions, and entered the room where the child was.
41Taking the child by the hand, He said to her, “Talitha kum!” (which translated means, “Little girl, (N)I say to you, get up!”).
42Immediately the girl got up and began to walk, for she was twelve years old. And immediately they were completely astounded.
43And He gave them strict orders that no one should know about this, and He said that something should be given her to eat.

1. Lazarus (John 11:1-44)

Notice that on the two children, Jesus NEVER asked the Father to heal anyone. Further, when the woman was healed who toached his clothing, he felt the “power that proceeded from him” go out and he told her that it was her faith (in him) that healed her.

Now for Peter Acts 9:36-43

“In Joppa there was a disciple named Tabitha (which, when translated, is Dorcas), who was always doing good and helping the poor. About that time she became sick and died, and her body was washed and placed in an upstairs room. Lydda was near Joppa; so when the disciples heard that Peter was in Lydda, they sent two men to him and urged him, “Please come at once!” Peter went with them, and when he arrived he was taken upstairs to the room. All the widows stood around him, crying and showing him the robes and other clothing that Dorcas had made while she was still with them. Peter sent them all out of the room; then he got down on his knees and prayed. Turning toward the dead woman, he said, “Tabitha, get up.” She opened her eyes, and seeing Peter she sat up. He took her by the hand and helped her to her feet. Then he called the believers and the widows and presented her to them alive. This became known all over Joppa, and many people believed in the Lord.”

And since Paul taught that anyone who taught different from him was from the devil, we will not mention him with Muhammed

 

[wina]

Jesus raised from the dead 3 people:

1. the only son of a widow from Nain (Luke 7:11-14)
2. the daughter of the religious leader Jairus (Mark 5:22-43)
3. Lazarus (John 11:1-44)

Notice that on the two children, Jesus NEVER asked the Father to heal anyone. Further, when the woman was healed who toached his clothing, he felt the “power that proceeded from him” go out and he told her that it was her faith (in him) that healed her.

Now for Peter Acts 9:36-43

And since Paul taught that anyone who taught different from him was from the devil, we will not mention him with Muhammed

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

Sorry Muslim Woman, we, Christian believe in One God only. .

but they have 3 different Characteristics. Father is always 100 % God , son was 100 % God & human , what about the holy Spirit ? He was always 100% God since the beginning ? U can do these comparison between deities instead of comparing God with earthy mortal human.

 

[pr_catholic]

When Prophet Jesus (pbuh) returns to the world in the not-too-distant(?) future, he will indeed fulfill Shariah law.

After all, what other divine law is there that is universal and comprehensive enough to effectively govern and administer all of humanity?

I know this post is from the first page but I just couldn’t resist answering this question. Jesus did brough a law which is the law of Christ (love one another as I loved you)

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

…Do you read the Quran

 

[ralphinal]

Salaam/peace
inJESUS;4407982:

yap . Quran mentioned the following miracles but pl. remember those took place by the will of God only.

Splitting of the Moon:

Almighty Allah says, “The Hour has drawn near, and the moon has been cleft asunder.” (An-Najm: 1)

Imam al-Bukhari reported on the authority of `Abdullah who said:

“The moon was cleft asunder while we were in the company of the Prophet, and it became two parts. The Prophet said, “Witness, witness (this miracle).”

…The Prophet’s Night Journey to Jerusalem and Ascent to the Heavens:

The opening verse of surat al-Isra’ relates the miracle of the Prophet’s night journey to Jerusalem.

Regarding the Statement of Allah, “And We granted the vision (Ascension to the heavens) which We made you see (as an actual eye witness) was only made as a trial for the people.” (Al-Isra’: 60)

Ibn `Abbas added: "The sights which Allah’s Messenger was shown on the Night Journey when he was taken to Bayt-ul-Maqdis (i.e. Jerusalem) were actual sights, (not dreams).

Allah Almighty knows best.

related link:

Miracles of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)

islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?cid=1119503543470&pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar%2FFatwaE%2FFatwaEAskTheScholar

my holy books confirm that all power belong to God only . Jesus (p) was a Prophet & he had no power of his own.

I thought the Qur’an was all the sign he needed or had…

Your holy book was written centuries later by a man with a pro-Arab agenda who had delusions of Arab domination of the world. Why should I beleive the book written several centuries later when those who walked with Jesus told another story. You are now calling Jesus, his followers, and his mother all liers. I hope that you are happy. Why should I believe anything in the Qur’an when it is wrong about what Christians know to be the Trinity? Or the Crucifixion and Ressurection? Or what Jesus showed to John as the End of the World?

Either Jesus is a lier or Muhammed is. Take your pick.

 

[inJESUS]

Salaam/peace

And they that know not say, ‘Why does God not speak to us? Why does a sign not come to us?’ So spoke those before them as these men say; their hearts are much alike. Yet We have made clear the signs unto a people who are sure. S. 2:118

Yet if thou shouldst bring to those that have been given the Book every sign , they will not follow thy direction; thou art not a follower of their direction, neither are they followers of one another’s direction. If thou followest their caprices, after the knowledge that has come to thee, then thou wilt surely be among the evildoers. S. 2:145

They also say, ‘Why has no sign been sent down upon him from his Lord?’ Say: ‘Surely God is able to send down a sign , but most of them know not.’ S. 6:37

They have sworn by God the most earnest oaths if a sign comes to them they will believe in it. Say: ‘Signs are only with God.’ What will make you realize that, when it comes, they will not believe? S. 6:109

They say, ‘Why has a sign not been sent down upon him from his Lord?’ Say: ‘The Unseen belongs only to God. Then watch and wait; I shall be with you watching and waiting.’ S. 10:20

So far , no sign.

The unbelievers say, ‘Why has a sign not been sent down upon him from his Lord?’ Thou art ONLY a warner, and a guide to every people. S. 13:7

If a warner can do miracles, this aya is meaningless.

Naught prevented Us from sending the signs but that the ancients cried lies to them; and We brought Thamood the She-camel visible, but they did her wrong. And We do not send the signs, except to frighten. S. 17:59

This passage makes no sense at all if Muhammad did indeed perform miracles.

Is it not ENOUGH for them that We have sent down unto thee the Scripture which is read unto them? 29:51

If Muhammad did miracles, it means the Quran is not enough and the author is falsifying his own statement.

Muslim scholars like Ar-Razi agree the sole paragraph you rely on is something in the day of judgment.

…The Prophet’s Night Journey to Jerusalem and Ascent to the Heavens:

says who? Muhammad? was it witnessed by someone? even Aisha who was sleeping next to him did not feel anything.

my holy books confirm that all power belong to God only . Jesus (p) was a Prophet & he had no power of his own.

i don’t really care what 6th century Gnostics have to say . You said Jesus rebuked those who asked for miracles, and i showed he still performed miracles nonetheless.

So again i’d invite you to read your book, the dozen of Muhammad’s negative attitude toward miracles that he was not able to perform because he is but a warner, instead of Deedat’s wishful thinking which makes your arguments sound really miserable, as if you want to ascribe to Muhammad things even by contradicting your book. He was not able to perform any miracles and he said it plainly.

 

[inJESUS]

Salaam/peace

but they have 3 different Characteristics. Father is always 100 % God , son was 100 % God & human , what about the holy Spirit ? He was always 100% God since the beginning ? U can do these comparison between deities instead of comparing God with earthy mortal human.

at least humans are created in the image of God, not in the image of books, which you compare to allah the eternal and uncreated.

 

[planten]

Muslim Woman;4411876:

Salaam/peace

I thought the Qur’an was all the sign he needed or had…

Your holy book was written centuries later by a man with a pro-Arab agenda who had delusions of Arab domination of the world. Why should I beleive the book written several centuries later when those who walked with Jesus told another story. You are now calling Jesus, his followers, and his mother all liers. I hope that you are happy. Why should I believe anything in the Qur’an when it is wrong about what Christians know to be the Trinity? Or the Crucifixion and Ressurection? Or what Jesus showed to John as the End of the World?

Either Jesus is a lier or Muhammed is. Take your pick.

**Ralph, by your book you mean the Quran, the last testament. Centuries later means 600 years after Jesus who did not leave any book.

We are not calling Jesus and his disciples as liars. You are putting these bad words in our mouth. You assume that Jesus and Muhammad are at odds. that is not the case.

When you can create (write) a new book (Bible NT) 1400 years after the book of Moses then why cannot a book be revealed to a man of God after Jesus. Faith was being revealed after Moses a.s. There were many prophets after Moses and they had received revelation from God and they spoke about it in the words “So says your Lord…” It means God had spoken to those prophets.

Then suddenly you people apply the brakes knowing well that messages were coming from God to Jesus and Jesus was passing on all those words of wisdom to the people. This a continous process. Then suddenly you stop at Jesus and you say that God does not speak any more. It is your fault. Jesus did not say that God will never speak to any one any more.

He even gave the good news of Parclete. You may take it as holy spirit. What Holy spirit would do? It will convey some message from God to some one. But you deny all that too. So it is your fault. Not the fault of Jesus or Muhammad. And there is no need to choose between Jesus and Muhammad.

Both Jesus and Muhammad are one, as one, pure and true. We have both of them. And Moses too.**

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

Either Jesus is a lier or Muhammed is. Take your pick.

both are the humble servants & blessed Messengers of God Almighty.

 

[ralphinal]

ralphinal;4412083:

Ralph, by your book you mean the Quran, the last testament. Centuries later means 600 years after Jesus who did not leave any book.

So the story told about Jesus 600 years later is the correct one while the one writen within 100 years of his death is wrong?

We are not calling Jesus and his disciples as liars. You are putting these bad words in our mouth. You assume that Jesus and Muhammad are at odds. that is not the case.

Jesus and all of his followers said that Jesus was crucified, died on the cross and rose again. Muhammed denied that. For all of your statements about it, this is a simple fact. If one person says this occured, and another says it never did, the second person is calling into question the honesty of the first. In other words, Muhammed, and all Muslims, consider Jesus and all who followed him to be liers.

When you can create (write) a new book (Bible NT) 1400 years after the book of Moses then why cannot a book be revealed to a man of God after Jesus. Faith was being revealed after Moses a.s. There were many prophets after Moses and they had received revelation from God and they spoke about it in the words “So says your Lord…” It means God had spoken to those prophets.

Because there is no need for further Revelation. Jesus himself said that “It is finished.” It is clear in the Bible that once we had the teachings of Jesus, that is all we would ever need for salvation.

Then suddenly you people apply the brakes knowing well that messages were coming from God to Jesus and Jesus was passing on all those words of wisdom to the people. This a continous process. Then suddenly you stop at Jesus and you say that God does not speak any more. It is your fault. Jesus did not say that God will never speak to any one any more.

No, but Jesus did say that the message would never change. The teachings of Islam are not the same as those of Christ. Because of that, we can rule them out as being part of the same revelation.

He even gave the good news of Parclete. You may take it as holy spirit. What Holy spirit would do? It will convey some message from God to some one. But you deny all that too. So it is your fault. Not the fault of Jesus or Muhammad. And there is no need to choose between Jesus and Muhammad.

You are correct that the Holy SPirit will guide us. However, there is NO WAY POSSIBLE that the Holy Spirit guided Muhammed because his message is different than that of Jesus. Yes, we must choose as Jesus said that “No one comes to the Father except through me.” In other words, we are either going the correct way or we are WRONG.

Both Jesus and Muhammad are one, as one, pure and true. We have both of them. And Moses too.

If they are so much alike, why did Muhammed have so much incorrect information about Jesus in the Qur’an?

 

[ralphinal]

Salaam/peace

both are the humble servants & blessed Messengers of God Almighty.

Then why are the messages different? Why did GOd pass along so much incorrect information about Jesus?

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/paece

Then why are the messages different? Why did GOd pass along so much incorrect information about Jesus?

Messages are same in all major holy books. Christians are misguided , that’s the problem . All Prophets including Jesus (pbut) taught human being that God is one , God in greater than ALL etc.

My Father is greater than I. Bible, John 14:28

Christ will never be proud to reject to be a slave to God , nor the angels who are near
( to God )…holy Quran , Chapter Women , verse 172 ( 4: 172 )

see verses of both holy books are giving the same message

 

[ralphinal]

Salaam/paece

Messages are same in all major holy books. Christians are misguided , that’s the problem . All Prophets including Jesus (pbut) taught human being that God is one , God in greater than ALL etc.

My Father is greater than I. Bible, John 14:28

Christ will never be proud to reject to be a slave to God , nor the angels who are near
( to God )…holy Quran , Chapter Women , verse 172 ( 4: 172 )

see verses of both holy books are giving the same message

So that is why Jesus says to forgive those who injure you and pray for those who hate you and Muhammed says no such thing?

Jesus and all his followers said that he was crucified, died, and rose again and Muhammed denied that?

No, the messages are not the same.

I was born at night but not last night.

 

[inJESUS]

Salaam/paece

Messages are same in all major holy books. Christians are misguided , that’s the problem . All Prophets including Jesus (pbut) taught human being that God is one , God in greater than ALL etc.

 

[swariffin]

so all the hundred prophets you believe in were sent only to teach that God is one? thousands of pages talking about what God says and does, how He deals and how He punishes and how He saves, and you reduce the whole 2 covenants with “God is One”? we know this looooong before Muhammad was born as a pagan muslim woman. Just because your islamic backgroud makes it impossible or hard for you to grasp some theology, it doesn’t mean we’ll start worshipping 3 deities because muhammas said so.

 

[inJESUS]

I have a very simple question to Muslim woman. Are the following verses corrupt?

"I have sworn by Myself; the word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, that to Me every knee shall bow…

“I swear by Myself, says the LORD”

For when God made a promise to Abraham, because He could swear by no one greater, He swore by Himself

 

[planten]

I have a very simple question to Muslim woman. Are the following verses corrupt?

"I have sworn by Myself; the word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, that to Me every knee shall bow…

“I swear by Myself, says the LORD”

For when God made a promise to Abraham, because He could swear by no one greater, He swore by Himself

** inJesus, whatever you say is wrong and a bye-product of your own mind. We Muslims believe that God can swear by anything because all are his creatures. He can swear by anything. But mankind cannot swear by anything except God. That is the true teaching of Islam. It is a sin for any man to swear by the name of anything except God.**

 

[ralphinal]

** inJesus, whatever you say is wrong and a bye-product of your own mind. We Muslims believe that God can swear by anything because all are his creatures. He can swear by anything. But mankind cannot swear by anything except God. That is the true teaching of Islam. It is a sin for any man to swear by the name of anything except God.**

BY taking an oath, you are swearing upon that which is greater than you. In the Judeo-Christian Theology, God cannot take an oath by anything as He is supreme. Is Allah saying that these things are greater than he? He is making himself subject to them by swearing on them.

Please explain.

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

so all the hundred prophets you believe in were sent only to teach that God is one?
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