Protecting your H.S., College children from scientific gibberish

[Linusthe2nd]

Gay and Godless– The school wound up with bad publicity. I doubt it’ll happen again
Stomping on Jesus– One teacher. Not a university making it part of a curriculum, ONE TEACHER. And he got severely reprimanded for it

Be Prepared– You said it yourself. Not all teachers are going to attack your faith. I, for one, have never had any of those teachers. Also, not actually having read most of the epistles, I wouldn’t think it’s far-fetched at all to say to say they’re about love. Remember, love is why God sent Jesus.

Vanderbilt– Okay. I agree they should keep a religious exemption clause in that rule. But at the same time, you can’t claim they’re being anti-Catholic. Anti-religious, maybe, but it’s affecting all the religious groups. And probably even atheistic groups, if those exist. Don’t attribute to malice what can be explained as a dumb idea. And from Part II, places ARE allowed to restrict rights. Yes we have free speech, but teachers still have every right, for instance, to reprimand you for verbally attacking them in class. It’s disappointing that they restricted those rights at a protest (which covers multiple rights), but I can at least understand the reasoning.

Top 10 Challenges– “A number of students” I want numbers. Actually, this one intrigues me. I wonder if there’s any correlation between religion at the beginning of college and at the end. Is there one religion that more people join? Is there one religion with much fewer people converting away? I might look into this, actually

Thoughts from the Science Classroom– I, for one, have never felt my faith conflicted by learning about evolution or the Big Bang. I support, as the article names it, the independence view. I’ve always felt that, in short, science describes how things work and religion describes why. It might be more difficult for Young-Earth Creationists, but overall, I don’t see too much of a problem here.

Religious classroom– I have issues with this bullet. I’m religious, and yet I still think something like that would get irritating as a background. Not because of the words, just because it’s text. Backgrounds, IMO, should be pictorial, with the only text being a reminder of school computer use policies

All the examples given above and earlier are from experts, including our pastors. It is acknowledged that not every student will be adversely effected. It is to advise parents that there are real problems in the educational environment and to aprise them of these problems before they are confronted by a returning child who has fallen victim to them. Our Lord said, " I have not come to save the just but those who are lost. " Or again, those who stand should beware lest they too fall. Linus2nd
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[Monte_RCMS]

The question is not whether or not to home school. Besides, you don’t have that option in higher education. Although you may be able to take some online courses, you won’t be able to do the full course of study that way.

The object of the O.P. was to provide parents with some sources to help their children deal with some of the intellectual challenges to their faith they may encounter in the college/university setting, in class and out of class. I specifically had in mind certain ideas floating around in cosmology which some have used to question many doctrines of the Catholic faith.

But at the same time I recognize that it is not just in the area of cosmology that problems can arise. One can encounter them in any intellectual subject. And of course one also sees problems in grammar school.

The idea is that parents can use some of the resources I have pointed out to help prepare their children to face these problems.

Linus2nd

Check THIS out!!!

khanacademy.org/

 

[Razanir]

All the examples given above and earlier are from experts, including our pastors. It is acknowledged that not every student will be adversely effected. It is to advise parents that there are real problems in the educational environment and to aprise them of these problems before they are confronted by a returning child who has fallen victim to them. Our Lord said, " I have not come to save the just but those who are lost. " Or again, those who stand should beware lest they too fall. Linus2nd
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1. Appeal to authority! Just because people in power say there’s a widespread problem, doesn’t mean it IS widespread
2. I haven’t been getting that vibe from your posts that you’ve acknowledged it. To me, at least, your recent posts chock full of examples feel like you’re trying to bash me over the head with examples until I agree with you. I personally think this whole thing is similar to sexually abusive coaches. Sure they exist and the ones that do are problems, but it’s not an incredibly widespread problem

 

[Linusthe2nd]

1. Appeal to authority! Just because people in power say there’s a widespread problem, doesn’t mean it IS widespread
2. I haven’t been getting that vibe from your posts that you’ve acknowledged it. To me, at least, your recent posts chock full of examples feel like you’re trying to bash me over the head with examples until I agree with you. I personally think this whole thing is similar to sexually abusive coaches. Sure they exist and the ones that do are problems, but it’s not an incredibly widespread problem

I wasn’t specifically thinking of you at all. You weren’t the only one asking for examples. So, there are examples, and plenty. I hope parents will be made more aware. Again I remind you of the words of Our Lord, “…Let those who stand beware, lest they too should fall…” Linus2nd

 

[Linusthe2nd]

Check THIS out!!!

khanacademy.org/

O.K. give me a hint. How is this site connected with anything I have been saying? How does it help to overcome the problems I have been talking about? As a purely educational tool it seems fine, perhaps very good for homeschoolers. But I just don’t see the connection to the subject at hand. Linus2nd

 

[Razanir]

I wasn’t specifically thinking of you at all. You weren’t the only one asking for examples. So, there are examples, and plenty. I hope parents will be made more aware. Again I remind you of the words of Our Lord, “…Let those who stand beware, lest they too should fall…” Linus2nd

“Me” referring to anyone on my side. Again, the vibe I’m getting is that you’re trying to prove your point by showing us all the examples you can find until we cave and agree. Also, I don’t understand your Scriptural reference. Elaborate?

 

[Linusthe2nd]

“Me” referring to anyone on my side. Again, the vibe I’m getting is that you’re trying to prove your point by showing us all the examples you can find until we cave and agree. Also, I don’t understand your Scriptural reference. Elaborate?

I am not really interested in a debate, I am speaking to parents and interested adults.

Linus2nd

 

[Farsight001]

I am not really interested in a debate, I am speaking to parents and interested adults.

Linus2nd

In other words “I speak the truth, and if you disagree with me, keep your mouth shut because I don’t want to hear it.”

 

[Razanir]

In other words “I speak the truth, and if you disagree with me, keep your mouth shut because I don’t want to hear it.”

To be honest, Linusthe2nd, this is the vibe I’ve been getting. I still haven’t forgotten when you accused me of not being Christian and threatening to report me because I disagreed

 

[Linusthe2nd]

To be honest, Linusthe2nd, this is the vibe I’ve been getting. I still haven’t forgotten when you accused me of not being Christian and threatening to report me because I disagreed

That would be my post # 23. I made no accusations, and I made no threats. Sorry you feel that way. Linus2nd

 

[CatholicGeek1]

To be honest, Linusthe2nd, this is the vibe I’ve been getting. I still haven’t forgotten when you accused me of not being Christian and threatening to report me because I disagreed

I think this is the vibe that most people who are reading this are getting. There is no interest in debate or open discussion. There is a viewpoint that some people are advancing and they do not want to hear anything from the other side.

 

[Ben_Quincy]

Thread closed for lack of charity.