This is purely ludacrous and it’s untrue. Vatican II had everything to do with doctrine. If it didn’t, then why was it painstakingly undertaken? Much has changed in the Catholic church even though you would never admit to it. From changes in your Gregorian Kalender to changes in personal conduct regarding attending Protestant services, much has changed in your church. Admit it.
He is risen!
You mentioned practices, not doctrines. Doctrines don’t change.
I wear one too… I got it from my grandma for my first communion… He’s not hanging on that one… (Actually none of the other kids had Jesus hanging on the cross on their necklace either.)
What does that make all other Christians outside of the CC? False Christians…
…and heretics??
not false Christians, merely incomplete. The fullness of Truth is to be found in the Catholic Church
What about the doctrinal teaching on Limbo?
I concur. This whole thing has turned into a referendum on Protestants.
Oh, so now it’s ok to use the term “Roman-Catholic”? Fine, I’ll remember that - thank you
Oh, so now it’s ok to use the term “Roman-Catholic”? Fine, I’ll remember that - thank you
Now, where to start…Oh yes! How about those outside of the RCC?
Tridentinum declared that to be outside of the RCC was to be outside possibility of salvation, A doctrine which Vatican I confirmed:
“We must hold as of the faith, that out of the Apostolic Roman Church there is no salvation; that she is the only ark of safety, and whosoever is not in her perishes in the deluge; we must also, on the other hand, recognize with certainty that those who are invincible in ignorance of the true religion are not guilty for this in the eyes of the Lord. And who would presume to mark out the limits of this ignorance according to the character and diversity of peoples, countries, minds and the rest?”
However, it is undeniable that Vatican II changed that. Non-RCs could now be described as “seperated brethren”, just as John Paul II also adressed non-RC Christian leaders in India as “Dear Brothers in Christ” in his adress on Feb 3 1986.
Would you like me to go on?
Of course, you’re probably just gonna find (or construct) some loophole, some way of twisting it, and then proclaim that 2+2=12 after all…
I sure can feel the Christian love here. Why are you so angry? Just because someone doesn’t agree with you. You have completly gotten off the topic.
Limbo was never a declared doctrine
Yet there’s also this verse: but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles (1 Cor 1:23).
Well it does say “preach”, not “show”… Well anyways, we do display a cross and that is a symbol… A crucifix is a symbol as much as a cross is (except if you believe that Christ is actually, literally hanging on each and every crucifix, which I am sure you don’t).
Indeed. And the foolishness of Dawkins et alia is made quite evident when they mock the crucified Christ, most especially in the symbol of the crucifix.
I prefer a blank cross as I think that the symbol in itself is so intimately Christian that is is known as a Christian symbol all over the world.
Fair enough.
) who object to displaying crucifixes in the name of tolerance. Georgetown University was in the process of taking down its symbols of its Catholicity (i.e crucifixes in the classroom) in order to be more welcoming and less threatening to its non-Catholic students. Ironically, it was the Muslim students who protested saying, “Give us a little credit here. We can’t get offended by a crucifix when we’re attending a Catholic university.” But they do not believe that Jesus was crucified. I forget their exact belief, but as I recall someone else was crucified in his place.
They also believe in the Second Coming of Christ, how he will lead the forces of righteousness at the climactic battle (Armageddon) at the end of the world.
I am a bit surprised that Muslim students at Georgetown have no problem with crucifixes on the classroom walls. But that helps remind us that most Muslims are not like bin Laden and his criminal crowd who insist that theirs is only one true religion (as many Christians do).
When I was in a Catholic hospital I was somewhat troubled by a crucifix in the room. It somehow didn't contribute to my sense of well-being and optimism to wake up and see the figure of Christ dying a painful death before me. I presume if I were a Catholic I might feel differently???
May God bless all creed, colors and countries. Let's work together to make religion a bridge and not a barrier among us.wrong riko. in many protestant congreations they no longer even have an empty cross…they have a big screen TV! I find it sad on the very rare occasions that i do have to enter a protestant building( for family events and such) that the cross has been replaced by a multi media center. not trying to be funny. its actually quite depressing. some of our seperated bretheren have gone from the way of the cross to the way of big screen TV. instead of looking up to the cross they look up to song lyrics that have very little depth,