protestant music at Mass - help!

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I am in the process of writing a letter to our pastor about the increasing amount of non-Catholic, non-sacred, protestant music played at our weekend Masses, particularly the Saturday night Mass, which has a youth choir.
I know there have been some threads about liturgical music, and I have the links from those posts. I am looking for statements to bolster my (polite) argument that our parish needs to get more sacred music at Mass.
Thanks All!
Ann Marie, who is writing a second letter protesting our parish affiliation with the local Girls Scout troop…got lots of ammo for that letter!
 
Umm

Some of the hymns that you feel are normal once were secular or protestant music many years ago when they were first made up. If you don’t believe me I dare you to find the history behind all of your favorite songs, especally if you are using “Today’s Misselette” many songs are written by protestants and some are regularly used in protestant churches. Just becasue this music is modern and made by protestants dosn’t make it any less uplifting to God. Its gasp actally relevant to some people today insted of songs that reflect on past times within their meaning.
As long as it is not against any teaching of the Catholic Church LET IT BE. Its not wrong or bad. Music changes all the time, the important thing to remeber is nomatter what the music changes to the validity of the MASS does not.
 
How is it affecting worship serices? More peope coming ot less. Is there a sense of Faith in the youth, more so with the music?

If so, let be. All music comes from the Creator. Some of it may be in poor tastes, some in contray to teachings, but even that helps to affirm who wer are!

I can’t imagine any protest music that would harm another’s soul.
 
I’ve never quite understood the uproar in some circles about (gasp!) “Protestant” music in Catholic churches. If it is reverent, beautiful, suitable for congregational singing, and most importantly not heretical, what’s the fuss? Better than the Catholic-folk of the 70s and 80s (Bob Dufford, Dan Schutte, I’m looking at you). There are some beautiful Methodist hymns (“Hark The Herald Angels Sing”, “Love Divine, All Loves Excelling”) and reverent hymns from the ecumenical Taize community (a sort of modern chant) that are quite useful in Catholic worship.

Now if you’re talking about “praise” music of the type that is commonly heard on Christian “pop” stations, I wholeheartedly agree with you. There’s a place for it, but its place is not the Mass. Not only is it not sacred, it’s difficult for congregations to participate- I speak from experience here, as a church choir member who accidentally wandered into a “praise” Mass at another parish. I can sing and love to sing during Mass, but I couldn’t and didn’t want to sing that stuff. What a disappointment.
 
Spatulate!:
I am in the process of writing a letter to our pastor about the increasing amount of non-Catholic, non-sacred, protestant music played at our weekend Masses, particularly the Saturday night Mass, which has a youth choir.
I know there have been some threads about liturgical music, and I have the links from those posts. I am looking for statements to bolster my (polite) argument that our parish needs to get more sacred music at Mass.
Thanks All!
Ann Marie, who is writing a second letter protesting our parish affiliation with the local Girls Scout troop…got lots of ammo for that letter!
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Entrance Hymn: Another Brick in the Wall
Offeratory Hymn: When I look to the sky
Communion Hymn: Unwell
Recessional Hymn: Hello, Goodbye

I dunno :o
 
Protestant vernacular hymns and motets can be sung at the Tridentine Mass too. Some Anglican polyphony is amazingly beautiful.
 
It was amazing to hear “Immaculate Mary” THUNDER OUT at the early Immaculate Conception Feast Mass this morning.

Almost as if they were a great deal of pent-up “catholicity” in the faithful this morning. It was awesome…
 
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misericordie:
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No thanks. More than one “tlm” celebrant has substituted readings from Jonathon Livingston Seagull in place of the Lectionary. No, the “tlm” is certainly no panacea…far from it.
 
More than one “tlm” celebrant has substituted readings from Jonathon Livingston Seagull in place of the Lectionary.
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Yeah, right. :rolleyes:
 
Please return to the original topic under discussion, Protestant music in Mass.
 
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Dismas2004:
All music comes from the Creator.
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I just want to say that this seems unlikely. Unless you re-scope “music” in some way. Anyway, I agree with the commentators who note the history of various hymns.
 
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SeekerJen:
Now if you’re talking about “praise” music of the type that is commonly heard on Christian “pop” stations, I wholeheartedly agree with you. There’s a place for it, but its place is not the Mass. Not only is it not sacred, it’s difficult for congregations to participate- I speak from experience here, as a church choir member who accidentally wandered into a “praise” Mass at another parish. I can sing and love to sing during Mass, but I couldn’t and didn’t want to sing that stuff.
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This is it PRECISELY!
 
i have a specific question about protestant music (not necessarily in mass):

many protestants hymns/songs have implicit references to the assurance of salvation (usually in the last verse describing how they will be in heaven)
e.g.:
1)when we’ve been there 10,000 years,
bright shining as the sun
we’ve no less days to sing god’s praise,
than when we’ve first begun (AMAZING GRACE)
2)and then one day, i’ll cross the river,
i’ll fight life’s final war with pain,
and then as death, gives way to victory,
i’ll see the lights of glory, and i’ll know he lives
(BECAUSE HE LIVES…)

there are several others i’m sure, just cant’ bring them to mind.
besides, you get the point

how is a catholic to interpret these?
are we to sing along interpreting them as the moral asurance or hope of salvation that we believe in
or
are we to not sing because the general understanding is about absolute assurance?

hope this is not considered off the topic
thanks
 
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Franciscum:
It was amazing to hear “Immaculate Mary” THUNDER OUT at the early Immaculate Conception Feast Mass this morning.

Almost as if they were a great deal of pent-up “catholicity” in the faithful this morning. It was awesome…
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I attended Mass at 5:00 yesterday afternoon at a conservative, very family oriented parish (Nativity) and was thrilled to hear “Immaculate Mary” and “Hail Holy Queen Enthroned Above” being sung with much gusto by everyone. Most knew the words and didn’t have to look at their cheat sheets (at least the first verse).

A soprano with a fabulous voice was the cantor and she sang “Ave Maria” during the Offertory.

I don’t understand why most music directors feel they are failures unless they constantly must provide new music that nobody knows. The language may have changed, but the core of the Mass has been said pretty much the same way for 2,000 yearsl And there’s nothing wrong with that.
 
Protestant Music at Mass? Oh, yeah. All that bad Bach and Brahams. Stop it. Stop it at once!!!
 
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justinmatter:
i have a specific question about protestant music (not necessarily in mass):

many protestants hymns/songs have implicit references to the assurance of salvation (usually in the last verse describing how they will be in heaven)
e.g.:
1)when we’ve been there 10,000 years,
bright shining as the sun
we’ve no less days to sing god’s praise,
than when we’ve first begun (AMAZING GRACE)
2)and then one day, i’ll cross the river,
i’ll fight life’s final war with pain,
and then as death, gives way to victory,
i’ll see the lights of glory, and i’ll know he lives
(BECAUSE HE LIVES…)

there are several others i’m sure, just cant’ bring them to mind.
besides, you get the point

how is a catholic to interpret these?
are we to sing along interpreting them as the moral asurance or hope of salvation that we believe in
or
are we to not sing because the general understanding is about absolute assurance?

hope this is not considered off the topic
thanks
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Neither song is about absolute assurance of salvation.

Amazing Grace is about the transforming power of God’s grace. Because He Lives is about finding hope in Jesus to deal with troubles of today.
 
I can’t understand why so many people defend the inane music we use at Mass. Much of it is self oriented feelgood drivel at best, and much is worse. I especially object to the many hymns which have us saying God’s words which I do not think is appropriate. I also do not want to sing Protestant songs WHEN WE ALMOST TOTALLY IGNORE OUR CATHOLIC MUSIC HERITAGE, and which I think is part of a larger (misguided) ecumenical agenda. The whole thing won’t change soon. If the liturgy and music committees want to be really relevant and do their job, they should toss all the pre-packaged stuff (missallettes, hymn books and master guides) that they receive from places like OCP.
 
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