Protestant tactics used to draw kids away from the Church

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Exactly my point. Fun for kids is directly related to Big Budgets (tithing). I don’t know if expenses go to mission work or back in to the church for these types of draws. It seems Catholics don’t know how to ask for money except for Maryknoll missions etc.
The events would fall under “outreach” which sometimes was combined with “missions.” “Outreach” would sometimes draw special contributions. “Outreach” was part of the normal church budget. Sometimes the denomination would give extra for outreach or church planting.
 
I really think the thought of ME praying for THEM was the equivalent- in their minds- of me putting a curse on them…😃 God listened- my prayer was I wanted to be “saved” from them 😉
 
How unfortunate, and not at all a good way to show Christ’s love. But every church I’ve been part of doesn’t target Catholic kids to lure them away; we’re much more worried about nonChristian children!
I wish it was like that in my area. The evangelical and baptist churches I have been to do not view Catholics as Christians. They believe Catholicism is a false religion, a cult, I have been told so directly by both churches. I even remember when there was a great big roo-hah-hah when our local Family Christian Bookstore started selling crucifixes and rosaries. They faced backlash and some boycotts from some members of the non-denominational church I was attending at the time.

I really wish there were more people like heidi_storage who understood that Catholics ARE Christians and therefore we are not in need of evangelization.
 
The area I live in is what is sometimes known as the buckle of the Bible Belt. I belong to a mothers group with some passionate Baptists who will speak right up and say what JC&me is referring to as well. They have no problem with spouting hyperbole and outright lies, whether it is what they actually believe, if it is what their pastors told them, I am not sure. There was once a big debate over whether “those Catholics serve alcoholic beverages during their church services!!” Another common complaint is that Catholics “believe the Pope is God on earth!!” it is frightening to imagine the kids of those moms growing up and getting alone in a friendship with an impressionable Catholic child, who will be intimidated and scared of the hateful rhetoric. I really, really don’t have a clue what the solution is. Reason number 57 why our kids go to Catholic school.
 
So this begs the obvious question… why don’t Catholic parishes use the same techniques??

Like I’ve said before, the Protestant churches run circles around the CC when it comes to preaching, teaching, Bible reading, evangelism, and even fellowship…

Isn’t the CC gonna catch up?
 
In my parish, there is perhaps a larger focus on youth than there seems to be in other parishes mentioned in this thread. It has recently opened a new youth center…complete with flat screen TVs, a popcorn machine, and video games…of course, there is teaching and worship happening also, but there is a lot of fun also. So Baptists are not the only ones trying to get teens’ attention.

I was never attracted to that kind of thing. As a teen, I attended the adult Sunday school classes with my parents because the youth groups were entertainment-focused. It would have been a relief to me if we had found a “boring” little church. It’s not accurate to say “Teens like this…do this and the teen will come!!” Everyone has their own interests and attractions, regardless of their age group. 🤷
 
So this begs the obvious question… why don’t Catholic parishes use the same techniques??

Like I’ve said before, the Protestant churches run circles around the CC when it comes to preaching, teaching, Bible reading, evangelism, and even fellowship…

Isn’t the CC gonna catch up?
Definitely the fellowship part.
 
As a convert, one phrase that I found very helpful when I was confronted with an argument that seemed to make sense or a question that I didn’t know the answer was to admit that I didn’t know ( humility ) but that I would be glad to find out the Church’s position and why it held that and get back to them. The tough part is with teenagers. It’s the bullying. I’m sure you have so warn them. Also, any tapes by Scott Hahn or Patrick Madrid. Or Catholism vs Fundementalism by Keating. They need to be “armed” going into these discussions.
Yes, this is of great concern to me, the bullying. My son (15), has been called a canibal and told Catholics aren’t Christian and that the pope is the anti-Christ. Super!!! That’s not the only issue either. More and more I am noticing atheism on the rise with the teens around here which seems to me is a influence by the parents in some instances, and a great and rising number of teens engaging in homosexual behavior infecting the whole community. Pray, pray, pray!!!
 
So this begs the obvious question… why don’t Catholic parishes use the same techniques??

Like I’ve said before, the Protestant churches run circles around the CC when it comes to preaching, teaching, Bible reading, evangelism, and even fellowship…

Isn’t the CC gonna catch up?
Good questions! Then again, it’s probably all of us parents and other Catholics who should begin in our own parishes by volunteering to establish or participate more in groups geared toward all of the above. Easier said than done, I know.
Regarding the topic of donations mentioned in this thread, although many Catholics might not tithe 10% back to their parishes, I think many donate additional funds to other important charities or organizations they feel inclined to which are also very worthwhile.
Great thread!
 
Catholics are the opposite. Most use no tactics to attract people to church. The Church will even give parents a hard time getting their kids into a First Communion class, having an attendance requirement. And, whenever I brought a friend to church, they were NOT made to feel welcome. They cannot receive communion, people are unfriendly.

I remember we had a big blow up at my old parish, with the priest having a falling out with the fellow who did the religious ed, practically banishing him from the parish because some of the traditionalists complained. Then he put the top traditionalist in charge, who totally botched it, he ended up a couple of years later actually getting banished from the parish by the priest for threatening him or something on that order. Meanwhile, the traditionalist made sure that no children of any Christmas and Easter Catholics were allowed in the class. :rolleyes: It was a disaster.
The Church is not being unfriendly by not allowing them to receive the Eucharist - just following scriptual instruction in not allowing those who do not recognize it being the actual body and blood of Jesus.
 
The Church is not being unfriendly by not allowing them to receive the Eucharist - just following scriptual instruction in not allowing those who do not recognize it being the actual body and blood of Jesus.
People at Catholic parishes often are unfriendly.

But this has nothing to do with the scriptural instruction, and I agree that non-Catholics should not receive Catholic Communion.
 
The Church is not being unfriendly by not allowing them to receive the Eucharist - just following scriptual instruction in not allowing those who do not recognize it being the actual body and blood of Jesus.
But, people perceive it that way. And, letting them know about that rule is the unfortunate responsibility of the one who invited the person to church with them. Not a great icebreaker.

Add to that, the Church is unfriendly on just about every other level as well. Catholics, for the most part, don’t fellowship much after Mass. They put in their hour obligation and then are off to other activities.

Daily Mass attenders are even more unfriendly. I used to attend daily Mass and they were a serious bunch, no fellowship there at all.
 
… heidi_storage … and that’s exactly what they considered Catholic Children to be- nonchristian … some simply refuse to see Catholics as Christian
Selected Protestants believe this. Others (including me) do not.
 
But, people perceive it that way. And, letting them know about that rule is the unfortunate responsibility of the one who invited the person to church with them. Not a great icebreaker.
Yeah, that’s a difficulty. Do you have a suggestion as to how to handle it?
Without breaking the scriptural injunctions about not receiving Christ’s Body & Blood without “discerning His Body”. [1Co 11:29]
It would be less friendly, would it not, to ignore this teaching?
1Co 11:29 For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself.

Remember, God had often required His prophets to deliver unpopular messages. I’m sure they were perceived as unfriendly, too.
 
But, people perceive it that way. And, letting them know about that rule is the unfortunate responsibility of the one who invited the person to church with them. Not a great icebreaker.

Add to that, the Church is unfriendly on just about every other level as well. Catholics, for the most part, don’t fellowship much after Mass. They put in their hour obligation and then are off to other activities.

Daily Mass attenders are even more unfriendly. I used to attend daily Mass and they were a serious bunch, no fellowship there at all.
That’s b/c Protestant services (generally speaking) are essentially horizontal in structure - i.e. they are about “us” the congregation. They are about our instruction, our community prayer, and our fellowship. The Catholic Mass is essentially vertical in structure - i.e it is about God, not us. We are instructed by attending, but that isn’t the point. There is community prayer, but that isn’t the point either. And we are brought into fellowship, not by handshaking and chatting after Mass, but by eating the One Body of Christ. Mass isn’t about us, it isn’t about us being friendly, it isn’t about us being welcoming, it is solely about worshiping God through the offering of Christ Crucified on the altar. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be friendly or welcoming, but it isn’t the focus, it isn’t an essential part of the Mass.

All that being said, having a social after Mass is a great idea and one I always enjoy attending.
 
The best approach depends on the child. For some, all you have to do is get them involved in the parish. Most of the Catholics I ever tried to evangelize were those who had fallen away. I never did mess with other Christians who were active in their Church.

Doctrinally, this is what I would do.
  1. Get a dictionary. Flip to a word, then another, then another. Make a sentence. Tell the child that this is how one uses a dictionary. Tell him that some people try and use the Bible this way. That is really a pretty silly way to use stories and letters.
  2. Offer and example. Over a period of just a few days, read the book of Romans. Get a tract that uses Romans (called the Roman Road). Discuss the scriptures in the tract in the context of the book just read. Discuss these in the context of Scripture and the Liturgy.
Galatians and Ephesians also are useful to go through. Single scriptures listed from these three books are the basis of the Evangelical “Plan of Salvation”.
  1. Go though the Gospels and read what* Jesus* said about how we will be judged and what brings us into His Kingdom.
 
In light of this thread I found it ironic and funny that this happened today.

I was on my way to take my kids to an indoor bounce house place, you know one of those kids zones. I had never been there and thought I passed it when I saw this cartoon like decorated kid place. I turned around and pulled in the lot to find…

An evangelical church and their “treasure Island” kid zone.

Classic example of how they “get them in”

See attachment for photo…yes that’s a grass roof.
 
Yeah, that’s a difficulty. Do you have a suggestion as to how to handle it?
Without breaking the scriptural injunctions about not receiving Christ’s Body & Blood without “discerning His Body”. [1Co 11:29]
It would be less friendly, would it not, to ignore this teaching?
1Co 11:29 For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself.

Remember, God had often required His prophets to deliver unpopular messages. I’m sure they were perceived as unfriendly, too.
I know that, when I went to the Episcopal church, the presiding minister let everyone know that all Christians were welcome to receive. Perhaps Catholic priests could also inform people as to Catholic rules.
 
But, people perceive it that way. And, letting them know about that rule is the unfortunate responsibility of the one who invited the person to church with them. Not a great icebreaker.

Add to that, the Church is unfriendly on just about every other level as well. Catholics, for the most part, don’t fellowship much after Mass. They put in their hour obligation and then are off to other activities.

Daily Mass attenders are even more unfriendly. I used to attend daily Mass and they were a serious bunch, no fellowship there at all.
Our parish has donuts and coffee after Mass once a month, and it is very successful. Some parishes have it every week.

Catholics are not into (or are not supposed to be into) long conversations when in church before Mass begins.

We need to be anticipating the Mass by praying, or meditating on the readings for the day in the missal.
 
I know that, when I went to the Episcopal church, the presiding minister let everyone know that all Christians were welcome to receive.
Apples and oranges. Well, an infinitely greater difference than that: Jesus and a symbol.

St. Paul said those who don’t discern the body shouldn’t receive.
I’d rather take exception with what the Episcopal priest said than with what St. Paul said.
Perhaps Catholic priests could also inform people as to Catholic rules.
Sometimes they’re afraid of being considered unfriendly.
But I agree … they should tell people. Even if it’s a hard truth, it IS still the Truth. Pun intended.
 
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