Protestant teaching of Mary

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“Protestant” is a very, very big tent with differing beliefs.

I was raised between very basic Stone Campbell to charismatic non-denominational.

They shared the belief that Mary was just a young woman. That had she said NO then the Holy Spirit would have asked the next girl up the road, on and on until one Jewish virgin agreed.

That she and Joseph were betrothed and that after Jesus’ birth they believe Mary and Joseph had marital relations and other children.

They believe that Mary died and went to heaven as does any other Christian, that her body will be resurrected on the last day.

They bring her out for the Nativity play and keep her well locked up for the rest of the time.
 
The entire bible is made up then! Look at what you allege. Not a single sentence in the entirely of scripture claims to be inspired by its own authority. Oh, the prophets claim to speak for God, but there were too many prophets to count. How come only a few of them are in the bible?

Someone in authority tested them. Who did Christ give all authority to?

Hint: NOT the bible - the NT of which did not even exist.

Nowhere - nowhere - does the bible claim to be complete or that it contains all revelation. So, why, one wonders, do you believe that? It’s not scriptural!

Since you cannot derive your beliefs from the bible, someone, somewhere, lead you astray.
 
In 1 John 1:8-10 passage all means all. Same with Romans 11:26

Greek - πᾶς - pas; a prim. word; all, every: Translated all or every 890 times.

However in Romans 11:26 the context is in relation to the end times where Jesus saves all the elect remnant of Israel. It doesn’t mean every Israelite, only all the elect remnant.
 
All we have is scripture. It was provided to us from God through the Holy Spirit to pen of man. If a person doesn’t believe that God made sure the Bible is accurate through the ages into our time then that person doesn’t believe in an all powerful God.

2Peter 1:20 But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, 21 for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.

Peter isn’t talking about us being able to read and understand scripture in our time, he is talking about the writing of scripture. There were false teaching already active during the time of the apostles. All the later letters in the Bible warn about false teachers.

2Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; 17 so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.

Scripture is sufficient. We are charged to test the spirits.

1John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

How do we do that? Search the scriptures.

In Acts the Berean’s were given as an example to us as to how we are supposed to investigate claims about God. The scriptures they used were from the old testament back then.

Act 17:11 Now these were more noble-minded than those in Thessalonica, for they received the word with great eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see whether these things were so. 12 Therefore many of them believed, along with a number of prominent Greek women and men.
 
You are proving the point!

Show us where everything we must believe must also come from the tiny fragment that is written…

You cannot!

Honestly, you must be ignoring huge chunks of scripture to hold your opinion. Christ gave the Holy Spirit to the Apostles and promised (if you believe Christ) that the Spirit would lead them into all truth. That He would remind them of all that Jesus taught.

The conclusions of John 20 and 21 tell YOU - clearly - or they should, that a tiny fraction of what Christ said and did is in the scriptures. If you are somehow happy with that - fine. But please stop haranguing us who have more - who desire more of the infinite God.

You do not believe Acts 15? Christ did not teach against circumcision - the Church did! That’s in the bible!

If you are male, then you’d better find a Rabbi with a scalpel - and quickly!
 
SnowRose said:
Scriptual source on that one, please.
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It was already answered by your Protestant brother:
ltwin said:
John the Baptist was filled with the Spirit in his mother’s womb, which would indicate he was born regenerate from natural birth. That is scriptural; Luke 1:15 “for he will be great before the Lord. And he must not drink wine or strong drink, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit, even from his mother’s womb.”
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I’m curios to fellow Catholics what they think of having a statue of Mary outside your home? I am not sure how I feel about it. But I am new to this whole Catholic thing
 
Being filled by Holy Spirit, so presumed innocent at birth (though it’s not a given), yes that was helpful of him, because I did want both questions scriptually clarified. But since it doesn’t say John was sinless afterwards, there can be arguments either way.

However. This thread is about the Protestant view of Mary, and I believe the OP has received a number of various answers.
 
cbirtell said:
I’m curios to fellow Catholics what they think of having a statue of Mary outside your home? I am not sure how I feel about it. But I am new to this whole Catholic thing
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Why wouldn’t anyone want a depiction of their Mother?
 
I agree. I feel like some Catholics look to Mary sometimes even before God. I don’t think she should ever be adored more or over God.
 
SnowRose said:
But since it doesn’t say John was sinless afterwards, there can be arguments either way.
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Does Scripture have to explicitly say anything? You’re basing something on the silence of Scripture.
 
It is not a doctrine of the Church, but a pious belief so it doesn’t need to be defended.
 
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I would rather have crucifix’s all over my home. That’s just me.
 
Mary did because of God. I personally am not going to venerate Mary more than My Savior Jesus.
 
Webo said:
2Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; 17 so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.
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The sufficient part only seems to apply to good works. And the rest is profitable for all the various things listed. Church doctrine has scriptural roots.
 
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