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Syele
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Maybe Orthodox and Roman Catholics should set the example then. Are not their difference much greater than the title of one type of leader?
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2ndGen
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It’s not our place to teach another religion how to act.
That’s their business…they need to do their own housecleaning.
We didn’t make their mess.
As for us and the Orthodox Church,
we at the very least respect each other.
They do have the right to the claim that they are an Apostolic Church.
A Catholic cannot deny them their rightful claim and we accept that claim. And that’s why there’s common respect.
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O.S.Luke
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I don’t know that there is a “common respect.” Especially in Russia. And I don’t believe Orthodox folks are allowed to take Eucharist in a Catholic Church.
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Alexius
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Orthodox are permitted to receive the Eucharist in a Catholic church, but it is best done with the priest’s permission. Orthodox are not supposed to, though, according to their own bishops.
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Harpazo
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The Orthodox and Catholics are not as open to giving Communion to anyone who professes simply Christianity. I don’t mean to sound rude when I say that, I’m just being honest.
Catholics and Orthodox are working on reunification, I can’t say the same for the majority of Protestant sects.
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jmcrae
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No one is offended. We have good reasons for doing it this way.The Orthodox and Catholics are not as open to giving Communion to anyone who professes simply Christianity. I don’t mean to sound rude when I say that, I’m just being honest.
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2ndGen
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Well, firstly, they believe that The Pope is “our” leader and that he “is” a Christian leader. That’s a show of repsect for us in my book.The Orthodox and Catholics are not as open to giving Communion to anyone who professes simply Christianity. I don’t mean to sound rude when I say that, I’m just being honest.
Catholics and Orthodox are working on reunification, I can’t say the same for the majority of Protestant sects.
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Andrew
I personally have a great appreciation for the culture of their faith and have always been interested in attending their service and if possible, receiving communion there.
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2ndGen
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Absolutely. I’m a firm believer in the Eucharist. It cannot be given to “just” anybody.No one is offended. We have good reasons for doing it this way.
They have to understand what it is they are partaking in.
Who did Jesus share the Eucharist with?
First, The Apostles.
Then, as the faith grew,
with others.
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Namesake
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What good would you find in a church that would provide for all who ask?
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2ndGen
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I’m sorry, but I don’t understand the question. Could you reword it for me as if I’m a 2nd grader?
Thanks!
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Namesake
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Matthew 21:22 And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.
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O.S.Luke
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My only response to that would be that the burden should be borne on the receiver, not the giver (who is ultimately Christ). Jesus served Judas who betrayed, and Peter who denied, with the full knowledge of what both would do. The sacraments are a means of grace. We see, at best, through a glass dimly. And the Orthodox still commune baptized infants, if I am not mistaken.
Recent ecumenical dialogue and actions don’t point that way, Andrew. But I will pray for it.
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2ndGen
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I believe in that 101%.
Regardless of “who” prays.
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COGHOBDOJ
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So many ways to answer this. Let’s see…
My pastor DOES NOT speak of other churches/denominations. His authority is only over HIS flock. His heart is not to debate adn argue, his heart is to bring the gospel to the lost and disciple believers to have the heart of Jesus by serving the poor, orphan and the widow.
Funny you should speak about my heart. In the 3 days I’ve been here, several of your follow posters have determined they know what’s in my heart. One accused me of not really meeting Jesus, but just having some emotional event. Mind you, I’m of the belief that people can have fellowship with Christ despite what church they attend. So, I’m in no way anti catholic, I just don’t fall into majority opinions. I’ve formed my opinions and perspectives from my experience and reading/studying the bible. So, take that for what’s its worth.
Well, that “emotional event” has led to things that i’ve never experienced in the first 28 years of the Catholic Church. (I don’t blame the church, its my fault, I’m to work out my own salvation with fear and trembling) It’s led to me spending more time with God in prayer, in bible study and in service with my local church. It’s led to me being a better husband and father. It’s led to me being a better steward of my God given finances, which in turn has led me to being a better giver than I’ve ever been in my life. It’s led me to discover my God given gifts and how to use them best for His Kingdom. It’s led to my pursuing full time ministry.
So, from my perspective, I wouldn’t go back and do anything differently. FOR ME PERSONALLY, 28 years of walking in the Catholic Church produced very little. So, I really find it hard to understand how anyone can argue my spiritual walk over the past 6 years and THE FRUITS it has produced. But, because I didn’t take part in the Sacraments, its null and void in some people’s eyes.
I sleep well at night, no worries or convictions. I see promises from God in the bible that are coming true for me based on my horrible attempt to love Him and serve Him and despite me and because of His Grace.
I’ve met some who went from Protestant to Catholicism and have found rekindled faith through Catholicism. Well, God Bless them.
You think its a curse to have different churches, I think its a blessing. Ever think the only reason there is division is cause people like some posters here keep dividing, arguing and debating?
So, what seems so obvious to you, is different than what seems obvious to me. We can throw scriptures at each other to prove our point, or we can wait 'til we get to Heaven and laugh about how immature, stubborn, narrow-minded and egotistical we were and laugh about it all over a supper.
P.S. You might want to encourage those who are hell bent on convincing me my existing life is full of ignorance and soon to be regrets that they may want to drop the condescending and sarcastic remarks and try to mirror the image of Christ more.
With each condeming and accusing remark from these folks, they lose credibility. A simple review of the Fruits of the Spirit in Galatians before commenting will do us all some good.
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COGHOBDOJ
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Thanks. I found it in a different spot years ago, but this is the same information.
BTW. This information contradicts some of what’s being said, so we ALL would benefit from reviewing it.
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COGHOBDOJ
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If you could see past the dark clouds that hover over you in your land of religious debates, you would see that THE WORLD is seeing the love of Jesus through many sources.
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2ndGen
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As a devout Catholic revert, I have to tell you that your post was well said and I agree with you. There’s a great Catholic saying, “Better a good Protestant, than a poor Catholic.”
If you feel God as a Protestant and you aren’t anti-Catholic, then maybe that’s where God wants you. Scripture clearly tells us that even atheist can please God with how they live their lives, so how much more can those who believe in Jesus who live his will please Him?
More power to you brother.
Amen.
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NonDenom
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The city where I live is a suburb to a much larger city. We have 14 Churches that are in agreement with us on the essentials concerning faith and doctrines, I know this because we have gotten together on many occasions to discuss what we can do together to reach our community. This is why the RCC’s numbers on how many Protestant denominations there are is wrong. I understand that the RCC does this to make it look like all Churches outside the RCC are in disagreement, this is simply not true.
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COGHOBDOJ
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You mean the wording on the church signs are different, but the heart of the members are the same?!?!?
LUDICROUS!!!
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2ndGen
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Let me quote a very wise scholar on the subject of Christian unity:
John 17:19-21
"19And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
20Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me."
Not one in England, one in Germany, one in Providenc…“one”.
As He and The Father are One.
I dont’ think that Jesus wanted His Church to be 10’s of thousands of differing opinions and beliefs.
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