Protestant Youth Ministries and Evangelizing to Catholic Youth

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As I said, Campus Crusade did agree a few years back to stop targeting Catholics. In fact, in researching these links, I found an article blasting Bill Bright for his ecumenical leanings. However, their beliefs are NOT in accord with the Catholic Church, so as the parent of a Catholic youth, I would steer them far from this group (unless they felt a strong call to convert those in it ;)).
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well, i can understand your fears, but bill bright met with the pope on numerous occasions and had a deep, deep respect for him and the catholic church. and while, yes, he was still a protestant, he definitely saw Christ in the church and instructed his staff to steer clear of proslytizing. evangelizing is different (and as well all know, there are members of every denomination that attend church and go through the rites, but are not Christians as they don’t believe).
 
Bengal Fan–

I am sure you can find a lot of “Catholics” who would agree with just about anything you come up with. But that does not make it and them RIGHT.

Yes, you have made repeated offers to PRIVATELY send me that letter from a bishop. But if it really is what you say it is, why don’t you post it on the forum–ie, type it in a post? I suspect you won’t post it because the supposed letter does not say what you want us to believe it says.

You are right, Young Life evangelizes. And it evangelizes kids on school grounds, during school hours, without parental permission. Young Life evangelizes atheist kids and unchurched kids and Catholic kids whose parents are practicing Catholics. I view that kind of evangelization to be a constitutional violation of freedom of religion and a violation of the proper separation of church and state. And downright wrong.

And the last time I looked in my dictionary (this morning before I saw your post), the definitions of “evangelize” and “proselytize” were virtually verbatim. Check your dictionary and tell me any different.

BTW I do hope you have a day job when you lose your job at Young Life because a parent in your area sues the school district.
 
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dhgray:
If you feed me oatmeal every day for every meal, I too would jump for the first person to offer me a hamburger.

Is this Youth Ministy targeting our Catholic Children? YES … because we are not feeding them ourselves.

Do the children go to the Youth Ministry? YES BECAUSE THEY ARE HUNGRY.

We, Catholics, need to do a better job of feeding our children (as well as feeding the adults).

There is a Vatican approved Ministry sweeping across the country and around the world called Couples For Christ (CFC).

The CFC has branches which reaches all aspects of the Catholic-Christian family.

Kids For Christ (KFC) 4-12 years old

Youth For Christ (YFC) 13 - 21 years old (now in all 50 states)

Singles for Christ (SFC) 22 - 40ish for single professionals (and amateurs)

Couples for Christ (CFC) Valid married couples growing in the faith.

Handmaids of the Lord (HOLD) Mature single women, divorced or widowed or separated or whose spouse is unable to attend.

Servants of the Lord (SOLD) Mature single men, divorced or separated or widowed or whose spouse is unable to attend.

Currently the CFC is 1.4 million members strong in 117 countries.

If you would like to know more or find a CFC group in your area, please contact me.
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You are absolutely right. We refuse to Spiritually feed our kids.
My oldest son, almost 49 yrs old left the Church at about 20 for an Evangelical Church. He has stopped going to Church altogether now but sends the kids to Catholic School. The children are attending evangelical services on a weekday and still going to Mass Sundays but getting increasingly bored.

The Catholic ministries you mentioned are wonderful from what I hear. However, they tend to be charismatic in nature so you will find lots of Catholic parents not encouraging their kids or families to take part.
I guess they would prefer they leave the Church for non Catholic services.

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La Chiara:
Bengal Fan–

I am sure you can find a lot of “Catholics” who would agree with just about anything you come up with. But that does not make it and them RIGHT.

Yes, you have made repeated offers to PRIVATELY send me that letter from a bishop. But if it really is what you say it is, why don’t you post it on the forum–ie, type it in a post? I suspect you won’t post it because the supposed letter does not say what you want us to believe it says.

You are right, Young Life evangelizes. And it evangelizes kids on school grounds, during school hours, without parental permission. Young Life evangelizes atheist kids and unchurched kids and Catholic kids whose parents are practicing Catholics. I view that kind of evangelization to be a constitutional violation of freedom of religion and a violation of the proper separation of church and state. And downright wrong.

And the last time I looked in my dictionary (this morning before I saw your post), the definitions of “evangelize” and “proselytize” were virtually verbatim. Check your dictionary and tell me any different.

BTW I do hope you have a day job when you lose your job at Young Life because a parent in your area sues the school district.
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okay, so at first i thought you had genuine questions or at least just misunderstood but had good intentions in this forum, but now i see that you are a genuinely bitter and mean spirited. so i am done with you in here. i did try to attach the letter to a post but it would not upload and i didn’t think it would do any good to just type it out because there would be no way to verify it that is why i offered to send it to you (or anyone else who asked for it), but you probably don’t want to be identified by sending me a private e-mail because you just want to insult me and anyone else who doesn’t agree with you…

to everyone else, young life does not evangelize on school grounds. they meet students there (normally after school or during school events) but do not evangelize there. the evangelization comes during the meetings which take place in student’s homes or other places that are suitable for a number of students to meet. the difference between evangelization and proselytization (even if the dictionary makes them sound the same) is the first is geared towards unchurched or disinterested people while the second is geared towards already churched. \and as i’ve said before, young life’s goal is to reach unchurched or disinterested students but when churched kids come, they are encouraged to be more involved with their churches and to use their church and young life to reach their friends. young life does not teach anything in conflict with catholicism as we stick to the things we have in common as opposed to the things that divide us. young life staff are not paid by the school, they are paid through fundraising and through private, church, and corporate donations (financial reports are available to anyone who asks) and are not officially affiliated with the schools. the work of meeting students often happens on school grounds but only when they are open to the public (i.e. after school, games, practices, performances, lunches (when it is an open campus), etc.) or in other hang outs. the evangelization happens after the leaders have built a significant relationship with the students (therefore would probably have met the parents) or at the weekly meetings (which the parents would know where their kids are on a school night) or at camp (which the parents would know where their kids are for a week in the summer) so to say it happens without the parents permission is preposterous. yes, information might be talked about with the students before parents know, but there is no pressure ever put on the students and NEVER are students encouraged to leave their Christian (and catholic is definitely included in this) church, they are encouraged to become more involved with their church.
 
…yes, you will always find a bad apple in their somewhere (like staff or volunteers who are too pushy or say stupid things or do stupid things) but there are more who do the right things and adhere to the conduct policy of young life and social norms in general. there are many catholic young life staff, many catholic clergy and lay people who support it, and a great respect for the church among the staff and volunteers. if anyone else (besides lachiara as she/he seems to just want to insult and doesn’t really know what they are talking about) has questions, you can e-mail me privately. i can type that letter out here but i know i’ll be accused of making it up so if anyone wants it please ask me for it and i will give it to you.
 
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dhgray:
Bengal Fan,
Thanks for pointing that out… The Family Ministries all fall under the Couples For Christ umbrella, so the full ministry names are
CFC-Kids For Christ
CFC-Youth For Christ
CFC-Singles for Christ
CFC-Handmaids of the Lord
CFC-Servants of the Lord

When you get a chance, check them out at our international website: cfcglobal.org.ph/links/links.htm.

Though this ministry, my 12 year old daughter brought 2 of her friends back to the Church (with their families). Sometimes I think she is a better evangalist than I am.😃 -Praise God
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i went to their website and they seemed great, and recently i met a few folks who are involved with these ministries and it confirmed it. they are great ministries directed to catholics, but an evangelical could go and get plenty out of it. thanks for posting these as there is always a need for more workers for the harvest. 👍
 
La ChiaraYou are right:
Sorry to jump into this forum so late, but I couldn’t let this go.

There is no constitutional right to freedom from religion, or freedom from exposure to other religion. Only a right to freely practice our own religion. And separation of church and state (not in the original constitution) refers to the STATE. It does not refer to interactions with other children at school (as long as they are freely chosen), and children do not leave their rights at the door when they come to school. As long as the school is not doing the evangelizing, we as Catholics will only harm ourselves by trying to keep individual faith out of the schools.

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Young Life misrepresents itself as a “non-denominational” youth group or a “non-denominational Christian” youth group. Young Life is IN FACT evangelical, fundamentalist, PROTESTANT. This very intentional misrepresentation lulls Catholics and others into a sense of complacency.

Young Life inserts itself into public high schools by misrepresenting themselves as “non-denominational”. Unsuspecting parents assume Young Life is okay because the high school permits it, and assume the high school would not permit Young Life, if Young Life was questionable. Parents–glad their children are involved in a nice Christian group–unknowingly hand them over to an evangelical, fundamentalist, Protestant youth group.

Would you let your children be involved with the Moonies? Lots of nice, well-dressed, clean-cut young adults evangelize about Christianity for their church–the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints–that is, Mormons. Is that acceptable to you for your child to be evangelized unknowingly by Mormons?

BEWARE THE PIED PIPER OF YOUNG LIFE!! Catholic parents wake up and see the groups that are trying to evangelize to your kids! Ask questions first, not after your kids have converted!

I have no other agenda about Young Life than as a devout Catholic who is intelligent enough to research something before allowing my child to join. The more I learned about Young Life the more concerned I became as a Catholic

BEWARE BENGAL FAN (in this thread)! He is a Protestant, a paid employee of Young Life. If anyone has an agenda, he does. Open your eyes to what he is! Open your eyes to what Young Life truly is!

God bless our Catholic youth and protect them from Protestant evangelists who would lure them away.
 
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