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HpyCatholic
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Okay quick question, are all non-Catholic christian religions considered protestant? If not what exactly is the breakdown? How many different types of groups are there?
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Jo_s_Dad
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Well, technicly, there are no Christian religions that aren’t Catholic. 
Not if they believe in the Trinity anyway.
God Bless.
Not if they believe in the Trinity anyway.
God Bless.
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Atreyu
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Jo’s Dad:
Hpycatholic - the word Protestant is sometimes used in different situations. Sometimes it is used to designate any Christian Church that is not Catholic or Orthodox, and sometimes it is used to describe any church that subscribes to these two fundamental doctrines: sola scriptura (Bible alone) and sola fide ([justification by] faith alone). As for the Anglican (aka Episcopal) Church, I think they believe in sola fide but not sola scriptura, so I think sometimes they are designated as Protestant and other times they are not.
As to how many Protestant groups there are, different people say different numbers. Thousands is not an exaggeration, so I will say there are thousands of Protestant denominations. There is only one Catholic Church (but several rites; the important thing is that they are all in communion with one another), and the Orthodox Churches I’m not really sure about but I know there is definitely one split making two groups: the Eastern Orthodox Churches and the Oriental Orthodox Churches. I think there may be some more splits within those groups but don’t quote me on that; I really don’t know.
I will reference this quote later on. Jo’s Dad if a stranger were to ask you where the Catholic Church meets in your town, would you point out your own church?
Hpycatholic - the word Protestant is sometimes used in different situations. Sometimes it is used to designate any Christian Church that is not Catholic or Orthodox, and sometimes it is used to describe any church that subscribes to these two fundamental doctrines: sola scriptura (Bible alone) and sola fide ([justification by] faith alone). As for the Anglican (aka Episcopal) Church, I think they believe in sola fide but not sola scriptura, so I think sometimes they are designated as Protestant and other times they are not.
As to how many Protestant groups there are, different people say different numbers. Thousands is not an exaggeration, so I will say there are thousands of Protestant denominations. There is only one Catholic Church (but several rites; the important thing is that they are all in communion with one another), and the Orthodox Churches I’m not really sure about but I know there is definitely one split making two groups: the Eastern Orthodox Churches and the Oriental Orthodox Churches. I think there may be some more splits within those groups but don’t quote me on that; I really don’t know.
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HpyCatholic
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Thanks for the response Atreyu
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Mamamull
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I guess one can always look to who calls us “papists” and that might work. Me, I am happy to be a papist – Viva Il Papa!
Being a dog afficianado, I am a big fan of the “My German Shepherd – Pope Benedict XVI” bumper sticker.
younglaw.org/bumper/
(sorry I haven’t gotten the graphisc thing down.)
*Ora pro nobis (peccatoribus) Johannus Paulus II ! *
Me, I am happy to be a papist – Viva Il Papa!Being a dog afficianado, I am a big fan of the “My German Shepherd – Pope Benedict XVI” bumper sticker.
younglaw.org/bumper/
(sorry I haven’t gotten the graphisc thing down.)
*Ora pro nobis (peccatoribus) Johannus Paulus II ! *
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squeekster
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Jo's_Dad:
Well, I gotta ask. How do you figure? I certainly believe in the Trinity, but I am not now, have never been, nor will I ever be a Catholic. (I’d tell you all the reasons for this, but if I did, I would be banned from these boards is a heartbeat.)
Well, technicly, there are no Christian religions that aren’t Catholic.
Not if they believe in the Trinity anyway.
God Bless.
Well, I gotta ask. How do you figure? I certainly believe in the Trinity, but I am not now, have never been, nor will I ever be a Catholic. (I’d tell you all the reasons for this, but if I did, I would be banned from these boards is a heartbeat.)
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b_justb
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I’ve read up to 33,000 different denominations. I think the break downs are basically dependant upon Trinitarian lines as far as being Christian. Those that deny the Trinity are not classified as Christian. The Jehovah’s Witness, The Mormon’s and Oneness Pentecostals are examples of groups that call themselves Christians but do not adhere to the doctrine of the Trinity so are classified as non-Christian by the vast majority of Trinitarian believers.
I think the mix up on “Catholic” and “catholic” happens when one sees all baptized believers as “catholic” as opposed to seeing believers that are in full communion with the Roman See as “Catholic” – See the difference?
The Orthodox Churches say the same Creed “we” do and are Catholic though not in communion with Rome. Our Pope has promised and has shown remarkable progress in reuniting the Eastern and Western Churches.
When it comes to “types of groups” I think it might be best to look at it like the way Catholics look at various Charisms within the Church. The Franciscans and the Jesuits have different Charisms yet are still Catholic. So the Southern Baptists and the Messianic Jewish Movement have a different focus yet are still Christian. Another example would be the Lutherans and the Church of God have a completely different view of the demonstrative gifts of the Spirit yet are both still Christian. I find that when Protestant groups have disagreements on whatever, instead of keeping communion with each other and seeing it a different Charism the way the Catholic Church does they just split off and form a new group. Does that help?
I think the mix up on “Catholic” and “catholic” happens when one sees all baptized believers as “catholic” as opposed to seeing believers that are in full communion with the Roman See as “Catholic” – See the difference?
The Orthodox Churches say the same Creed “we” do and are Catholic though not in communion with Rome. Our Pope has promised and has shown remarkable progress in reuniting the Eastern and Western Churches.
When it comes to “types of groups” I think it might be best to look at it like the way Catholics look at various Charisms within the Church. The Franciscans and the Jesuits have different Charisms yet are still Catholic. So the Southern Baptists and the Messianic Jewish Movement have a different focus yet are still Christian. Another example would be the Lutherans and the Church of God have a completely different view of the demonstrative gifts of the Spirit yet are both still Christian. I find that when Protestant groups have disagreements on whatever, instead of keeping communion with each other and seeing it a different Charism the way the Catholic Church does they just split off and form a new group. Does that help?
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cheddarsox
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I don’t believe the various Eastern Orthodox faiths are considered Protestant.
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Della
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Right. They are considered schimatic because they don’t acknowledge the pope as the Vicar of Christ on earth. They are not heretical and their communion is valid because their priesthood has proper apostolic succession.
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scylla
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Hello Squeekster,
Don’t worry about getting banned here, feel free to ask your questions or post your objections to the Catholic faith. Just remember to post your objections one at a time one thread at a time and we will be happy to give a reason for the Catholic faith.
This site is called Catholic Answers for a reason, we are here to ask questions and get answers. Unlike other boards you wont get banned for questioning our faith, because we have specific answers for it.
Now if you just start saying that the Catholic Church is evil without caring for responses then you will get banned as that is not discussion.
So welcome to the forums and feel free to start a thread with one reason why you don’t agree with the Catholic Church.
God Bless
Scylla
Don’t worry about getting banned here, feel free to ask your questions or post your objections to the Catholic faith. Just remember to post your objections one at a time one thread at a time and we will be happy to give a reason for the Catholic faith.
This site is called Catholic Answers for a reason, we are here to ask questions and get answers. Unlike other boards you wont get banned for questioning our faith, because we have specific answers for it.
Now if you just start saying that the Catholic Church is evil without caring for responses then you will get banned as that is not discussion.
So welcome to the forums and feel free to start a thread with one reason why you don’t agree with the Catholic Church.
God Bless
Scylla
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NonDenom
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Hi
I have to disagree with you on this one. A friend of mine got banned from this site for asking a question on the relationship of the Catholic church and the book of Revolation.
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cathlicnlovinit
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NonDenom,
Hello! I don’t know who your friend is but I am sure there had to be more to the story than just that. They are pretty fair here. If your friend was banned he/she had to have made a derogatory statement or said something in a harsh manner, maybe not publicly. Or maybe he/she attempted to tell Catholics what we believe or what the church teaches (that irritates most of us) As it has been stated before, most of us here know why we are Catholic so we have no reason to be offended by a simple question and ban someone. I hope your friend found the answers they were looking for.
God Bless
Heather
Hello! I don’t know who your friend is but I am sure there had to be more to the story than just that. They are pretty fair here. If your friend was banned he/she had to have made a derogatory statement or said something in a harsh manner, maybe not publicly. Or maybe he/she attempted to tell Catholics what we believe or what the church teaches (that irritates most of us) As it has been stated before, most of us here know why we are Catholic so we have no reason to be offended by a simple question and ban someone. I hope your friend found the answers they were looking for.
God Bless
Heather
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yochumjy
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I sincerely doubt that would be the only reason. Did the friend ask the question and with no replies suddenly get banned? Doubtful, assuming, of course, there was some charity in the question. Obviously, bad language/attitude (ie lack of charity to others) are not to be tolerated.
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NotWorthy
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Could the question have been something like “Is the Catholic Church the Wh_ _ _ of Babylon in Revelations?” followed up with several more spewings. I’ve seen that get someone suspended, but not banned.
The Question is a valid one, but easily debunked. We’ve got no problem with that, but when it’s simply one question among numerous other anti-catholic rantings, it will get you shut off pretty quick.
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Joe_Monahan
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Reminder to all:
The topic of this thread is Protestantism, which hasn’t been discussed at all in the past several posts. Can we please get back on track?
Thanks,
Joe
The topic of this thread is Protestantism, which hasn’t been discussed at all in the past several posts. Can we please get back on track?
Thanks,
Joe
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