So you are saying that when I am looking for someone’s views I should listen to ex-members rather than the demoninations official position as expressed by themselves. On that basis I should accept ex-Catholics views that Catholics worship Mary as the truth rather than accept what the Church officially teaches.
Perhaps there is a different reality at work here. The Catholic Church is the one true Church built by Christ. It would be wrong for one to leave. So, no one leaving sees the light, but is wrong in doing so.
I didn’t realize that you were apparently SDA. Correct me if I am wrong. The SDA also teaches, (but not from their “official” website) that the Pope is the antichrist and that the Catholic Church is the “whore of Babylon”. Funny, isn’t it, that this is also not on their website, but is in books that they distribute? Why would I have to go elsewhere to determine this? There is nothing hidden that will not be brought to light. If the former SDA pastor is teaching falsehood, then refute him.
I don’t really see where Bulwark or Support are any less supportive of the Truth than foundation. A buwark is a defensive structure and a a support is used to hold something up. Just as the Church supports and defends the Truth of Christ’s teachings agains those who would change them.
I am not Seventh Day Adventist but I am willing to accept their statement as to their doctrine just as when I am looking for Catholic doctrine I go to the Catechism of the Catholic Church or the Vatican website.
Your concern with outward appearances is all you have, because you have no substantial truths. I promise you, that God is infinitely more pleased with the Pope who faithfully seeks to support and be a visible shepherd to Christ’s flock, than with those who, like you continually attack Christ’s Bride!
If Protestant churches had the protection of the Holy Spirit as does the Catholic Church, they would be infallible, and not have to change things because they’re wrong. Jesus only promised that the gates of Hell would not prevail against the Church He built, the Catholic Church, which has never once taught error in faith and morals binding on all the faithful. The churches built by men (Protestant) have already taught falsely, every one of them, and so the gates of Hell have at least partially prevailed against all of the Protestant churches. It’s no wonder Protestant churches are wrong on doctrine, wrong on Sacraments,and have no ministerial priesthood… they have no true authority from Christ.
Foundation…support…bulwark…
I expect better from you, 1beleevr. This was a cheap shot, and unfounded, and revealing of ignorance toward the history of the Church, the meaning of vestments, and the truth regarding gifts given to the Church for hundreds of years, and the comparison of that to the alleged “wealth” of Rome. Do some homework.
Trust me on this one. Our Chaplain at work is SDA. We have certainly had some interesting conversations. Recently, he provided an SDA written book to a co-worker in which the antichrist is identified as “the pope”. The Catholic Church is also referred to as the “whore of Babylon”.
It is also intersting that you are more interested in Looking at and commenting on the Popes vestments rather than at what the Church actually teaches. So who is it that is judging the outside of the cup without ever looking inside of it. (Eyes and Do not see, Ears and do not hear)
What churches are you refering to here. I know it isn’t the Catholic Church - at least not in my area. In point of fact I am a person who wishes more people would “dress to the nines” as you put it. I see far too many people dressing in ways that are, to my way of thinking, inappropriate or too casual for the occasion of receiving Our Lord - Body Blood Soul and Divnity - into our bodies at communion.
I stand corrected. I just found this statement on the site of the Estate of Ellen G. White which is linked as a resource from the official Adventist site.
whiteestate.org/issues/video.html
But what truth, EastAnglican?
I can answer that question. Best of all it’s an answer that Catholics and Protestants alike can agree on: If you’re talking about my church or denomination, you should go by our official position as expressed by ourselves; if you’re talking about some other church or denomination, you should go by what the ex-members have to say.
At first, I did not know this, either. When I heard it, I had to look it up. I give credit to the SDA members for being faithful and hard working members of the Body of Christ. However, their reliance upon the writings of Ellen Gould White is a major flaw in their theological foundation. As time passes, the SDA have moderated their teaching to some extent. But, the many peculiar views that they hold will unfortunately always distance them from mainstream Christianity.
You are correct in saying that in order to make an informed decision about Adventists, or any other denomination, including Catholics, you need to stay away from the anti movements, and go directly to the original source in question.
It is interesting to note that official Adventist teachings do not rely on Ellen G White;s writings, nor was she the “author” or originator of any of our major doctrines. Our official teaching is simply that she can be used as an “authoritative source” of explanation regarding our official teachings, and many other Biblical topics.
Good Saturday everyone!!!
