po18guy
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So, the mature response is to throw the baby out with the bath water?
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Hisalone
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If you understood my post you would never have responded as you did.
po18guy
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You use several terms and concepts that are not in your bible. Where did you get them?
To review, the true Church contains:
- Matthew 16:18 "You are Kepha (Peter, 1st Pope), and on this rock I found my Church (Not “congregation”, not “bible”)
- Matthew 16:19, 18:18 “Whatever you bind on earth is bound in Heaven” (Apostolic authority - not “congregational” authority))
- Luke 10:16 “He who hears you (Apostles) hear me. He who rejects you rejects me. He who rejects me rejects the one who sent me” (Apostolic authority)
- Acts 1:15-26 The Apostles appointed successors, beginning with Matthias to replace judas. (Apostolic succession)
- John 14:26 But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. (Apostles and their successors guided by the Holy Spirit into all truth)
- This has continued in an unbroken line, to this very day.
Note: One must be willing to separate the sins of individuals in the Church from the truth that the Church teaches.
- Based on disobedience to and rejection of an authoritative Church
- Wrested the bible away from Holy Spirit-guided interpretive authority
- Rapidly accelerated the fracturing of the Body of Christ
- Discarded out of hand 5 of the 7 Sacraments
- Lost all claim to Apostolic succession
- Speaks to the ego - thousands of denominations the proof
We are no longer in the 1500s.
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Hisalone
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There is no pope or concept of pope in the bible. Christ did not establish a pope.
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steve_b
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Janet,
Scripture puts oral (non enscripturated) traditions of an apostle on the same footing as what has been enscripturated.[2 thes 2:15]
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Hisalone
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God cannot or does He tolerate grevious sin. He is aholy God.
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steve_b
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sheesh!!!
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RNRobert
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Brian,
I asked this question on a thread I started a couple years ago. If the Catholic Church “went off the rails,” as some claim, then where am I to go for the authority that the Apostles had? If someone could show me there was another church that taught with apostolic authority (and I disqualified the Eastern Orthodox churches as they believed many of the same things Protestants attack the Catholic Church for), then I would leave the Catholic Church for that church. The thread had a few hundred posts, but no one took up my challenge.
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soflochristmas
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Janet1983
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This surely is going nowhere. You mean to tell me that just because I do not accept the authority of your church with their “successors” I am an egocentric rejecter of Christ?
Who are you to tell me that I am not Christ-centred? He is my life and He is my Lord!
This is ridiculous and not worth the time of debate.
Jesus Christ died for my sins and I do not need the CC, the bishops and the pope to become more like Jesus Christ. All I need is Jesus Christ because I am already a member of His true Church which He founded and send out into the world. “I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.”
1 Corinthians 12:3
Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
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greggy53
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The Church and Christ are one. You can’t reject one without rejecting the other. The Bible says so.
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soflochristmas
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There are few things MORE clear in the bible than the primacy of Peter and Christ establishing him as head of His Church.
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soflochristmas
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Yes…because you know better.
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soflochristmas
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I’m a child of God, baptised in the Holy Spirit, a member of His Church, founded on the Rock of St. Peter…that’s who I am to tell you you are all about YOU and YOUR interpretation of Scripture and YOUR religion…
He who hears you hears me…
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steve_b
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Janet,
I can’t speak for the one who responded to you, and I certainly don’t know your situation. But based on your bio as an ex Catholic, and considering what you said above, I have a question.
When Paul wrote the following to the Church of Rome, the Church you left, how would you respond?
Rom 16:
17I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. 18For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people. 19Everyone has heard about your obedience, so I am full of joy over you; but I want you to be wise about what is good, and innocent about what is evil.
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soflochristmas
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So-called “bible believing” non-Catholics…what significance do each of the bible quotes below have to you and your beliefs regarding the relationship between faith and works?
Mat 3:3 “…prepare the way of the Lord, make straight his paths.”
Mat 5:16 “…your light must shine before others that they may see your good deeds.”
Mat 5:20 “…unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.”
Mat 6:1 “…righteous deeds or no recompense from the heavenly father.”
Mat 6:4 “…father who sees [almsgiving]…will repay you.”
Mat 6:6 “…father who sees [prayer in private]…will repay you.”
Mat 6:18 “…father who sees [fasting]…will repay you.”
Mat 7:14 “…narrow the gate and restricted the road that leads to life.”
Mat 7:15-16 …by their fruits you will know them."
Mat 7:19 “…every tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.”
Mat 7:21 “…but only the one who does the will of my father in heaven [will enter the kingdom of heaven].”
Mat 7:24-27 “…listens to my words and acts on them…builds his house on rock.”
Mat 10:22 “…endures to the end will be saved.”
Mat 10:32-33 “…denies me before others I will deny before my heavenly father.”
Mat 10:39 “…whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.”
Mat 12:36 “…day of judgment people will render an account of every careless word they speak.”
Mat 13:41 “…collect out of his kingdom all who cause others to sin and all evildoers.”
Mat 13:49 “…angels will go out and separate the wicked from the righteous.”
Mat 16:27 “…he will repay everyone according to this conduct.”
Mat 18:35 “…so my heavenly father will do to you [turn over to the torturer] unless each of you forgives his brother from his sins.”
Mat 19:16-21 parable of the rich man and what he must do to enter the kingdom of heaven
Mat 19:29 “…whoever has given up…for my sake will inherit eternal life.”
Mat 21:28-32 parable of the two sons
Mat 23:5 “All their works are performed to be seen.” - the objection being that they are done for public observance, the validity of the works is not questioned.
Mat 24:13 “But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved.”
Mat 24:50-51 parable of the unfaithful servant - connects the action/behavior/works to eternal salvation/punishment
Mat 25:1-13 parable of the ten (10) maidens and lamp oil
Mat 25:40-46 connects the action/behavior/works with eternal salvation/punishment
Mark 7:20-23 “But what comes out of a person, that is what defiles…”
Mark 8:34-35 “Whoever wishes to come after me must deny himself, take up his cross and follow me…”
Mark 9:41 “Anyone who gives you a cup of water to drink because you belong to Christ, amen, I say to you, will surely not lose his reward.”
Mark 9:43-48 “If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter into life maimed than with two hands to go into Gahanna, into the untouchable fire.”
Mark 10:17-19 “‘Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?’…You know the commandments…Go, sell what you have, and give to [the] poor and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me.”
Luke 10:25-28 “There was a scholar of the law who stood up to test him and said, ‘Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?’ Jesus said to him, 'What is written in the law? How do you read it?..”
Luke 18:20-22 see above
Mark 10:29-30 “Amen, I say to you, there is no one who has given up house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children…who will not receive…eternal life.”
Luke 18:29-30 see above
Mark 13:13 “But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved.”
Mark 14:27 “Then Jesus said to them, ‘All of you will have your faith shaken…’”
Luke 3:8 “Produce good fruits as evidence of your repentance; and do not begin to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father,’ for I tell you, God can raise up children to Abraham from these stones.”
Luke 3:9 “Even now the ax lies at the root of the trees. Therefore every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.”
Luke 8:4-9 parable of the seed - hearing the word alone does not save
Luke 8:21 “My mother and my brothers are those who hear the word of God and act on it.”
Luke 9:24 “For whoever wishes to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it.”
Luke 12:8 “I tell you, everyone who acknowledges me before others the Son of Man will acknowledge before the angels of God.”
Luke 12:32-34 “Do not be afraid any longer, little flock, for your father is pleased to give you the kingdom. Sell your belongings and give alms…”
Luke 13:3-5 “By no means! But I tell you, if you do not repent, you will perish as they did!..”
John 3:19-21 “And this is the verdict, that the light came into the world, but the people preferred darkness to light, because their works were evil.”
John 5:29 “Do not be amazed at this, because the hour is coming in which all who are in the tombs will hear his voice and will come out, those who have done good deeds to the resurrection of life, but those who have done wicked deeds to the resurrection of condemnation.”
John 5:39 “You search the Scripture because you think you have eternal life through them; even they testify on my behalf. But you do not want to come to me to have life.”
John 7:7 “The world cannot hate you, but it hates me, because I testify to it that its works are evil.”
John 8:31 “Jesus then said to those Jews who believed in him, 'If you remain in my word, you will truly be my disciples, and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”
John 8:39 “If you were Abraham’s children you would be doing the works of Abraham.”
John 8:51 “Amen, amen, I say to you, whoever keeps my word will never see death.”
John 9:31 “We know that God does not listen to sinners, but if one is devout and does his will, he listens to him.”
to be continued…
Mat 3:3 “…prepare the way of the Lord, make straight his paths.”
Mat 5:16 “…your light must shine before others that they may see your good deeds.”
Mat 5:20 “…unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.”
Mat 6:1 “…righteous deeds or no recompense from the heavenly father.”
Mat 6:4 “…father who sees [almsgiving]…will repay you.”
Mat 6:6 “…father who sees [prayer in private]…will repay you.”
Mat 6:18 “…father who sees [fasting]…will repay you.”
Mat 7:14 “…narrow the gate and restricted the road that leads to life.”
Mat 7:15-16 …by their fruits you will know them."
Mat 7:19 “…every tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.”
Mat 7:21 “…but only the one who does the will of my father in heaven [will enter the kingdom of heaven].”
Mat 7:24-27 “…listens to my words and acts on them…builds his house on rock.”
Mat 10:22 “…endures to the end will be saved.”
Mat 10:32-33 “…denies me before others I will deny before my heavenly father.”
Mat 10:39 “…whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.”
Mat 12:36 “…day of judgment people will render an account of every careless word they speak.”
Mat 13:41 “…collect out of his kingdom all who cause others to sin and all evildoers.”
Mat 13:49 “…angels will go out and separate the wicked from the righteous.”
Mat 16:27 “…he will repay everyone according to this conduct.”
Mat 18:35 “…so my heavenly father will do to you [turn over to the torturer] unless each of you forgives his brother from his sins.”
Mat 19:16-21 parable of the rich man and what he must do to enter the kingdom of heaven
Mat 19:29 “…whoever has given up…for my sake will inherit eternal life.”
Mat 21:28-32 parable of the two sons
Mat 23:5 “All their works are performed to be seen.” - the objection being that they are done for public observance, the validity of the works is not questioned.
Mat 24:13 “But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved.”
Mat 24:50-51 parable of the unfaithful servant - connects the action/behavior/works to eternal salvation/punishment
Mat 25:1-13 parable of the ten (10) maidens and lamp oil
Mat 25:40-46 connects the action/behavior/works with eternal salvation/punishment
Mark 7:20-23 “But what comes out of a person, that is what defiles…”
Mark 8:34-35 “Whoever wishes to come after me must deny himself, take up his cross and follow me…”
Mark 9:41 “Anyone who gives you a cup of water to drink because you belong to Christ, amen, I say to you, will surely not lose his reward.”
Mark 9:43-48 “If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter into life maimed than with two hands to go into Gahanna, into the untouchable fire.”
Mark 10:17-19 “‘Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?’…You know the commandments…Go, sell what you have, and give to [the] poor and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me.”
Luke 10:25-28 “There was a scholar of the law who stood up to test him and said, ‘Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?’ Jesus said to him, 'What is written in the law? How do you read it?..”
Luke 18:20-22 see above
Mark 10:29-30 “Amen, I say to you, there is no one who has given up house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children…who will not receive…eternal life.”
Luke 18:29-30 see above
Mark 13:13 “But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved.”
Mark 14:27 “Then Jesus said to them, ‘All of you will have your faith shaken…’”
Luke 3:8 “Produce good fruits as evidence of your repentance; and do not begin to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father,’ for I tell you, God can raise up children to Abraham from these stones.”
Luke 3:9 “Even now the ax lies at the root of the trees. Therefore every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.”
Luke 8:4-9 parable of the seed - hearing the word alone does not save
Luke 8:21 “My mother and my brothers are those who hear the word of God and act on it.”
Luke 9:24 “For whoever wishes to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it.”
Luke 12:8 “I tell you, everyone who acknowledges me before others the Son of Man will acknowledge before the angels of God.”
Luke 12:32-34 “Do not be afraid any longer, little flock, for your father is pleased to give you the kingdom. Sell your belongings and give alms…”
Luke 13:3-5 “By no means! But I tell you, if you do not repent, you will perish as they did!..”
John 3:19-21 “And this is the verdict, that the light came into the world, but the people preferred darkness to light, because their works were evil.”
John 5:29 “Do not be amazed at this, because the hour is coming in which all who are in the tombs will hear his voice and will come out, those who have done good deeds to the resurrection of life, but those who have done wicked deeds to the resurrection of condemnation.”
John 5:39 “You search the Scripture because you think you have eternal life through them; even they testify on my behalf. But you do not want to come to me to have life.”
John 7:7 “The world cannot hate you, but it hates me, because I testify to it that its works are evil.”
John 8:31 “Jesus then said to those Jews who believed in him, 'If you remain in my word, you will truly be my disciples, and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”
John 8:39 “If you were Abraham’s children you would be doing the works of Abraham.”
John 8:51 “Amen, amen, I say to you, whoever keeps my word will never see death.”
John 9:31 “We know that God does not listen to sinners, but if one is devout and does his will, he listens to him.”
to be continued…
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soflochristmas
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John 10:38 “…but if I perform them, even if you do not believe me, believe the works, sto that you may realize [and understand] that the Father is in me and I am in the Father.”
John 12:25-26 “Whoever loves his life loses it, and whoever hates his life in this world will preserve it for eternal life.”
John 14:10-12 “Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on my own. The Father who dwells in me is doing his works.”
John 14:21 “Whoever has my commandments and observes them is the one who loves me. And whoever loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and reveal myself to him.”
John 15:5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. Whoever remains in me and I in him will bear much fruit, because without me you can do nothing.”
John 15:10 “If you keep my commandments, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commandments and remain in his love.”
John 15:16 “It was not you who chose me, but I who chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit that will remain…”
John 16:8 “And when he comes he will convict the world in regard to sin and righteousness and condemnation…”
Rom 2:6-10 “…who will repay everyone according to his works; eternal life to those who seek glory, and immortality through perseverance in good works, but wrath and fury to those who selfishly disobey the truth and obey wickedness. Yes, affliction and distress will come upon every human being who does evil…But there will be glory, honor, and peace for everyone who does good.”
Rom 2:13 “For it is not those who hear the law who are just in the sight of God; rather, those who observe the law will be justified.”
Rom 2:16 “…on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge people’s hidden works through Christ Jesus.”
Rom 6:12-14 “Therefore, sin must not reign over your mortal bodies so that you obey their desires. And do not present the parts of your bodies to sin as weapons for wickedness, but present yourselves to God as raised from the dead to life and the parts of your bodies to God as weapons for righteousness.”
Rom 6:15-18 “…either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness?”
Rom 6:23 “For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.”
Rom 7:4 “In the same way, my brothers, you also were put to death to the law through the body of Christ, so that you might belong to another, to the one who was raised from the dead in order that we might bear fruit for God.”
Rom 14:17 “For the kingdom of God is not a matter of food and drink, but of righteousness, peace, and joy in the holy Spirit; whoever serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God…”
Rom 15:18 “For I will not dare to speak of anything except what Christ has accomplished through me to lead the Gentiles to obedience by word and deed…”
1 Cor 6:9-10 “Do you not know that the unjust will not inherit the kingdom of God?”
1 Cor 13:2 “…if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.”
2 Cor 5:10 “For me must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive recompense, according to what he did in the body, whether good or evil.”
Gal 5:21 "…those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Gal 6:4 “Each one must examine his own work, and then he will have reason to boast with regard to himself alone…for each will bear his own load.”
Gal 6:9 “Let us not grow tired of doing good, for in due time we reap our harvest, if we do not give up.”
Eph 5:5 “Be sure of this, that no immoral or impure or greedy person, that is, an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of God.”
Eph 5:15 “Watch carefully then how you live, not as foolish persons but as wise…”
Eph 2:10 “For we are his handiwork, created in Christ Jesus for the good works that God has prepared in advance, that we should live in them.”
Phil 1:6 “…the one who began a good work in you will continue to complete it until the day of Christ Jesus.”
Phil 1:22 “If I go on living in the flesh, that means fruitful labor for me.”
Phil 2:12-13 “…work out your salvation with fear and trembling.”
Col 1:10 “…to live in a manner worthy of the Lord, so as to be fully pleasing, in every good work bearing fruit and growing in the knowledge of God…”
2 Thes 1:8 “…in blazing fire, inflicting punishment on those who do not acknowledge God and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.”
2 Tim 2:21-22 “…pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace…”
Titus 1:16 “They claim to know God, but by their deeds they deny him. They are vile and disobedient and unqualified for any good deed.”
Titus 2:12-14 “…and training us to reject godless ways and worldly desires and to live temperately, justly, and devoutly in this age.”
Titus 3:14 “But let our people, too. learn to devote themselves to good works…”
Hebrews 6:1 “Therefore, let us leave behind the basic teaching about Christ and advance to maturity…repentance form dead works…”
Hebrews 6:10 “For God is not unjust so as to overlook your work…continuing to serve the holy ones.”
Hebrews 10:24 “We must consider how to rouse one another to love and good works.”
Hebrews 12:14 “Strive for peace with everyone, and for that holiness without which no one will see the Lord.”
James 1:22-25 “Be doers of the word and not hearers only, deluding yourselves.”
James 1:26-27 “If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, his religion is vain.”
James 2:14 “What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works?”
James 2:17 “So also faith of itself, if it does not have works, is dead.”
James 2:18 “Indeed someone might say, ‘You have faith and I have works.’ Demonstrate your faith to me without works, and I will demonstrate my faith to you from my works.”
James 2:20 “Do you want proof, you ignoramus, that faith without works is useless?”
James 2:21-22 “Was not Abraham our father justified by works, and faith is completed by works.”
James 2:24 “See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.”
James 2:25-26 “…was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works…For just as a body without a spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.”
to be continued…
John 12:25-26 “Whoever loves his life loses it, and whoever hates his life in this world will preserve it for eternal life.”
John 14:10-12 “Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on my own. The Father who dwells in me is doing his works.”
John 14:21 “Whoever has my commandments and observes them is the one who loves me. And whoever loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and reveal myself to him.”
John 15:5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. Whoever remains in me and I in him will bear much fruit, because without me you can do nothing.”
John 15:10 “If you keep my commandments, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commandments and remain in his love.”
John 15:16 “It was not you who chose me, but I who chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit that will remain…”
John 16:8 “And when he comes he will convict the world in regard to sin and righteousness and condemnation…”
Rom 2:6-10 “…who will repay everyone according to his works; eternal life to those who seek glory, and immortality through perseverance in good works, but wrath and fury to those who selfishly disobey the truth and obey wickedness. Yes, affliction and distress will come upon every human being who does evil…But there will be glory, honor, and peace for everyone who does good.”
Rom 2:13 “For it is not those who hear the law who are just in the sight of God; rather, those who observe the law will be justified.”
Rom 2:16 “…on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge people’s hidden works through Christ Jesus.”
Rom 6:12-14 “Therefore, sin must not reign over your mortal bodies so that you obey their desires. And do not present the parts of your bodies to sin as weapons for wickedness, but present yourselves to God as raised from the dead to life and the parts of your bodies to God as weapons for righteousness.”
Rom 6:15-18 “…either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness?”
Rom 6:23 “For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.”
Rom 7:4 “In the same way, my brothers, you also were put to death to the law through the body of Christ, so that you might belong to another, to the one who was raised from the dead in order that we might bear fruit for God.”
Rom 14:17 “For the kingdom of God is not a matter of food and drink, but of righteousness, peace, and joy in the holy Spirit; whoever serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God…”
Rom 15:18 “For I will not dare to speak of anything except what Christ has accomplished through me to lead the Gentiles to obedience by word and deed…”
1 Cor 6:9-10 “Do you not know that the unjust will not inherit the kingdom of God?”
1 Cor 13:2 “…if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.”
2 Cor 5:10 “For me must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive recompense, according to what he did in the body, whether good or evil.”
Gal 5:21 "…those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Gal 6:4 “Each one must examine his own work, and then he will have reason to boast with regard to himself alone…for each will bear his own load.”
Gal 6:9 “Let us not grow tired of doing good, for in due time we reap our harvest, if we do not give up.”
Eph 5:5 “Be sure of this, that no immoral or impure or greedy person, that is, an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of God.”
Eph 5:15 “Watch carefully then how you live, not as foolish persons but as wise…”
Eph 2:10 “For we are his handiwork, created in Christ Jesus for the good works that God has prepared in advance, that we should live in them.”
Phil 1:6 “…the one who began a good work in you will continue to complete it until the day of Christ Jesus.”
Phil 1:22 “If I go on living in the flesh, that means fruitful labor for me.”
Phil 2:12-13 “…work out your salvation with fear and trembling.”
Col 1:10 “…to live in a manner worthy of the Lord, so as to be fully pleasing, in every good work bearing fruit and growing in the knowledge of God…”
2 Thes 1:8 “…in blazing fire, inflicting punishment on those who do not acknowledge God and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.”
2 Tim 2:21-22 “…pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace…”
Titus 1:16 “They claim to know God, but by their deeds they deny him. They are vile and disobedient and unqualified for any good deed.”
Titus 2:12-14 “…and training us to reject godless ways and worldly desires and to live temperately, justly, and devoutly in this age.”
Titus 3:14 “But let our people, too. learn to devote themselves to good works…”
Hebrews 6:1 “Therefore, let us leave behind the basic teaching about Christ and advance to maturity…repentance form dead works…”
Hebrews 6:10 “For God is not unjust so as to overlook your work…continuing to serve the holy ones.”
Hebrews 10:24 “We must consider how to rouse one another to love and good works.”
Hebrews 12:14 “Strive for peace with everyone, and for that holiness without which no one will see the Lord.”
James 1:22-25 “Be doers of the word and not hearers only, deluding yourselves.”
James 1:26-27 “If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, his religion is vain.”
James 2:14 “What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works?”
James 2:17 “So also faith of itself, if it does not have works, is dead.”
James 2:18 “Indeed someone might say, ‘You have faith and I have works.’ Demonstrate your faith to me without works, and I will demonstrate my faith to you from my works.”
James 2:20 “Do you want proof, you ignoramus, that faith without works is useless?”
James 2:21-22 “Was not Abraham our father justified by works, and faith is completed by works.”
James 2:24 “See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.”
James 2:25-26 “…was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works…For just as a body without a spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.”
to be continued…
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soflochristmas
Guest
1 Peter 1:9 “…as you attain the goal of [your] faith, the salvation of your souls.”
1 Peter 1:17 “Now if you invoke as Father him who judges impartially according to each one’s works…”
1 Peter 2:12 “Maintain good conduct…so that if they speak of you as evildoers, they may observe your good works and glorify God on the day of visitation.”
1 Peter 3:12 “For the eyes of the Lord are on the righteous and his ears turned to their prayer, but the face of the Lord is against evildoers.”
1 Peter 4:19 “As a result, those who suffer in accord with God’s will hand their souls over to a faithful creator as they do good.”
2 Peter 2:9-10 “…the Lord knows how to rescue the devout from trial and to keep the unrighteous under punishment for the day of judgment, and especially those who follow the flesh…”
2 Peter 2:12-13 “But these people…revile things they do not understand, and in their destruction they will also be destroyed.”
2 Peter 2:20-22 “…having escaped the defilements of the world through the…[our] Lord and savior Jesus Christ, again become entangled and overcome by them, their last condition is worse than their first.”
2 Peter 3:11,13 “…what sort of person ought [you] be, conducting yourselves in holiness and devotion. But according to his promise we await new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.”
1 John 3:10 “…no one who fails to act in righteousness belongs to God…”
1 John 3:18 “Children, let us love not in word or speech but in deed and truth.”
Rev 2:5 “Realize how far you have fallen. Repent, and do the works you did at first. Otherwise, I will come to you and remove your lamp stand from its place…”
Rev 2:23 “I will give each of you what your works deserve.”
Rev 2:26 “To the victor, who keeps to my ways until the end, I will give authority over the nations.”
Rev 3:2 “Be watchful and strengthen what is left, which is going to die, for I have not found your works complete in the sight of my God.”
Rev 14:13 “…Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on…let them find rest from their labors, for their works accompany them.”
Rev 16:11 “But they did not repent of their works.”
Rev 19:8 “She was allowed to wear a bright, clean linen garment (The linen represents the righteous deeds of the holy ones).”
do you see a trend here?
1 Peter 1:17 “Now if you invoke as Father him who judges impartially according to each one’s works…”
1 Peter 2:12 “Maintain good conduct…so that if they speak of you as evildoers, they may observe your good works and glorify God on the day of visitation.”
1 Peter 3:12 “For the eyes of the Lord are on the righteous and his ears turned to their prayer, but the face of the Lord is against evildoers.”
1 Peter 4:19 “As a result, those who suffer in accord with God’s will hand their souls over to a faithful creator as they do good.”
2 Peter 2:9-10 “…the Lord knows how to rescue the devout from trial and to keep the unrighteous under punishment for the day of judgment, and especially those who follow the flesh…”
2 Peter 2:12-13 “But these people…revile things they do not understand, and in their destruction they will also be destroyed.”
2 Peter 2:20-22 “…having escaped the defilements of the world through the…[our] Lord and savior Jesus Christ, again become entangled and overcome by them, their last condition is worse than their first.”
2 Peter 3:11,13 “…what sort of person ought [you] be, conducting yourselves in holiness and devotion. But according to his promise we await new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.”
1 John 3:10 “…no one who fails to act in righteousness belongs to God…”
1 John 3:18 “Children, let us love not in word or speech but in deed and truth.”
Rev 2:5 “Realize how far you have fallen. Repent, and do the works you did at first. Otherwise, I will come to you and remove your lamp stand from its place…”
Rev 2:23 “I will give each of you what your works deserve.”
Rev 2:26 “To the victor, who keeps to my ways until the end, I will give authority over the nations.”
Rev 3:2 “Be watchful and strengthen what is left, which is going to die, for I have not found your works complete in the sight of my God.”
Rev 14:13 “…Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on…let them find rest from their labors, for their works accompany them.”
Rev 16:11 “But they did not repent of their works.”
Rev 19:8 “She was allowed to wear a bright, clean linen garment (The linen represents the righteous deeds of the holy ones).”
do you see a trend here?
J
Janet1983
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I am a Bible-believing Christian. Of course I do not reject the Church of Jesus Christ.
I just reject the CC with its bishops, its dogmata, its “authority”, its magisterium, its “divine” revelations, its “sacred” tradition, its claims, its worldly power and its pope.
I am a follower of Jesus Christ and thereby I am a member of His Church alone. In Him I put my trust and my faith and He is the cornerstone and the solid rock His Church is founded upon.
J
Janet1983
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How do you know that the RCC is the one that is following Christ?
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