Protestants, what do you know about the Saints?

[adstrinity]

Just like the title says, what do you know about any of the Saints whom the Catholic or the Orthodox venerate? Whether stories or histories, what have you heard, what do you know about:

St. Joseph

The Blessed Virgin Mother

St. Francis

St. Anthony

St. George

St Therese the Little Flower

St. Benedict

St. Dominic

St. John the Baptist

St. Mark

St. Luke

St. Christopher

St. Mungo

St. Bernadette

St. Martin de Porres

St. Edward

St. Henry

St. Patrick

St. Valentine

St. Nicholas

ect. No fair looking up any of these names online or in books or on the television or through any other media. The question struck me and so I am throwing it out to you, what do you know about any of the Saints, both Biblical and after?

 

[TriuneUnity]

Just like the title says, what do you know about any of the Saints whom the Catholic or the Orthodox venerate? Whether stories or histories, what have you heard, what do you know about:

St. Joseph

Adoptive father of Christ. If anyone didn’t know this one, I would slap them.

The Blessed Virgin Mother

The most exalted woman in history!

St. Francis

Founder of the Franciscans; noted for having instituted the tradition of the nativity scene; love of animals; having went to the Middle East to negotiate with and preach the gospel to, the Muslims.

St. Anthony

Patron saint of Padua; student of Francis of Assisi, I believe. Do not know too much about him, other than a reported miracle involving a mule but I forget the context.

St. George

and the dragon? Patron saint of England.

St Therese the Little Flower

I own the movie. Does that count?

St. Benedict

Founder of monasticism.

St. Dominic

Founder of the Dominican order.

St. John the Baptist

Founder of the Southern Baptist Convention…oh, wait

St. Mark

Disciple of Peter; writer of the second gospel.

St. Luke

Disciple of Paul; physician; wrote the gospel and Acts.

St. Christopher

It’s been reported this saint may never have existed. Reportly carried a manifestation of the Christ child across the river; Patron saint involved with travel.

St. Mungo

Havent heard of this one.

St. Bernadette

Reported visions of Mary at Lourdes

St. Martin de Porres

African American saint; not much aside from that.

St. Edward

The confessor. I only know that because there’s a church named that down the street lol

St. Patrick

Oh come on! LOL. He drove the Calvinists out of Ireland right?

St. Valentine

St. Nicholas

Bishop of Myra; Santa Claus; gave money to the poor; imprisoned for quite a number of years.

 

[soleddie]

Saints - they have showed how deep their faithfulness to GOD and to GOD’s Sides, They faced the agony, pain, hardships, mental challenge up to the death to prove to satan/lucifer together with all the demons, devils, all satan’s seeds and followers. They crossrd the temptations and defeat our enemies through love of GOD.

 

[Syele]

I often read about different Saints and also teach my Daughter about them.

 

[AlexiaMusing]

Ummm, we celebrate nearly all the feast days ourselves. Perhaps you think we don’t for some reason? At least Anglicans do, and I suspect Lutherans and Methodists do as well, but I can’t be sure.

 

[adstrinity]

AlexiaMusing, please do not be presumptuous. It’s not that I don’t think Protestants know about the Saints, but, I was wondering if they knew ANYTHING about the Saints. We (Catholics) reference them freely and they are given patronages, but, I was throwing this question out just to see if Protestants are familiar with any of the histories or stories of any of the saints.

As a Catholic, I couldn’t begin to tell you who St. Hripseme (I think that’s how one spells her name) is. I know she’s venerated in the Armenian Apostolic Church. I think she was a virgin.

Same thing if a Protestant asked, “What do you know about the Reformers?” …I couldn’t tell ANYONE a thing about Zwingli, save whatever Luther and Calvin and VIII came up with didn’t suit his view of God.

…St. Florian? Any Protestant ever heard of him?

And, I included St. Mungo because the wizard hospital in London in the Harry Potter series was named, “St. Mungo’s Hospital.” It turns out there actually IS a St. Mungo.

 

[AlexiaMusing]

QUOTE=adstrinity;4101273]AlexiaMusing, please do not be presumptuous. It’s not that I don’t think Protestants know about the Saints, but, I was wondering if they knew ANYTHING about the Saints. We (Catholics) reference them freely and they are given patronages, but, I was throwing this question out just to see if Protestants are familiar with any of the histories or stories of any of the saints.

how can I be presumptuous when you are the one asking if any Protestants know anything about saints? I said we honor their feast days as do you. Do you assume we do so in a vacuum? We catholics also reference saints freely and see them as having patronages. Your question shows your utter lack of knowledge I’m afraid.

As a Catholic, I couldn’t begin to tell you who St. Hripseme (I think that’s how one spells her name) is. I know she’s venerated in the Armenian Apostolic Church. I think she was a virgin.

Same thing if a Protestant asked, “What do you know about the Reformers?” …I couldn’t tell ANYONE a thing about Zwingli, save whatever Luther and Calvin and VIII came up with didn’t suit his view of God.

…St. Florian? Any Protestant ever heard of him?

And, I included St. Mungo because the wizard hospital in London in the Harry Potter series was named, “St. Mungo’s Hospital.” It turns out there actually IS a St. Mungo.

Why do you equate saints with Zwingli, Luther and Calvin? My personal favorites are Teresa of Avila, Teresa of Liesaux (The little Flower) and Catherine of Sienna. Dominic, and Thomas More. I have a special affinity for Augustine and have several biographies of him as well as Confessions and City of God, his works. Teresa of Avila wrote wonderfully as you no doubt are aware. Julian of Norwich is another favorite. I could go on at length but I assume you are getting the picture? I tend to favor the mystics, but in truth there are so many I venerate that the list would be quite long indeed.

 

[adstrinity]

Perhaps you think we don’t for some reason?

how can I be presumptuous when you are the one asking if any Protestants know anything about saints?

That’s how. That’s how I got to my reasoning.

Why do you equate saints with Zwingli, Luther and Calvin?

Because they are venerated among those who would like to imitate their lives in trying to get close with God.

 

[Wonderboo]

Just like the title says, what do you know about any of the Saints whom the Catholic or the Orthodox venerate? Whether stories or histories, what have you heard, what do you know about:

St. Joseph

Married Mary, earthly step father of Christ, Patron of the Church, Patron of Vatican Two, Patron of workers, Patron of unborn children, statues are buried outside homes for sale, his color is red, almost always on one side of the Altar at Church, Patron of Fathers

The Blessed Virgin Mother

Mother of Christ, Mother of the Church, Queen of Peace, Queen of the Angles, Queen of Heaven…shall I go on? Immaculate Conception and the Assumption are the two infailable (I spelled that wrong sorry) teachings of the Papacy, every Saturday is her feast day for the Church, color is blue, I gave her flowers at my wedding, the Rosary is a prayer that lays flowers at the feet of her

St. Francis

I’m assuming you mean of Assisi:
Founded the Order named for him. Was told to fix the church, thought it meant the local church, came to mean the whole church, was a reformer, a bad 60s movie was made about him, was rich, sold it all to do God’s work, received the Stigmata

St. Anthony

Which one? One’s the saint of lost stuff and was a Franciscan, one was Egyptian and a hermit and I think there are a few more

St. George

The Dragon!!!

St. Benedict

Founder of the Communal Monastic movement, his rule is followed by most if not all Monastic communities

St. Dominic

I’m assuming you mean the guy that founded the Dominicans (there are more than one though). Was concerned with preaching and bringing back the Cathars to the fold.

St. John the Baptist

Jumped in his mother’s womb when Mary came around. Lost his head. Many say the Knights Templar found his head. Dunked Jesus, Patron of the country of Jordan

St. Mark

which one? Wrote a gospel according to tradition if thats the one you’re talking about. Followed Peter

St. Luke

Wrote a gospel and Acts according to tradition, was a doctor, knew Greek Patron of doctors

St. Christopher

They’re talking about taking him off the list of saints because they aren’t sure if he really carried Christ (which is what his name means) or if he was really real

St. Bernadette

Saw Mary at Lourdes and declared the Immaculate Conception

St. Patrick

Was a captive brought to Ireland and came back to teach the people. Patron of Ireland, said to have driven out all the snakes

St. Valentine

NOT A SAINT ANYMORE

St. Nicholas

Patron of Children in a pickle and sailors (I’m assuming you mean the Christmas one…there are more than one)

ect. No fair looking up any of these names online or in books or on the television or through any other media. The question struck me and so I am throwing it out to you, what do you know about any of the Saints, both Biblical and after?

So to be fair…I went to Catholic school

 

[churchcamefirst]

Catholic school has nothing as to how you live your life now. I often hear Catholics say, "well, I went to CCD…big deal? What are you doing now in your life as an adult for Christ?

 

[Wonderboo]

Catholic school has nothing as to how you live your life now. I often hear Catholics say, "well, I went to CCD…big deal? What are you doing now in your life as an adult for Christ?

Fair I was just saying my knowing all of that has more to do with Catholic education than anything else

 

[churchcamefirst]

Fair I was just saying my knowing all of that has more to do with Catholic education than anything else

I think it’s great you had a Catholic education, but what do you do as an adult as living your life for Christ? In Catholic school, they must of taught you the history of the faith and the church which is the heart of our faith. So why aren’t you Catholic?

 

[bpbasilphx]

**
And, I included St. Mungo because the wizard hospital in London in the Harry Potter series was named, “St. Mungo’s Hospital.” It turns out there actually IS a St. Mungo.**

St. Kentigern Mungo (aka St. Kent), to be precise.

 

[adstrinity]

I think it’s great you had a Catholic education, but what do you do as an adult as living your life for Christ? In Catholic school, they must of taught you the history of the faith and the church which is the heart of our faith. So why aren’t you Catholic?

Please don’t. That’s not what this thread is about.

Wonderboo, please don’t feel you have to answer.

"Poor St. Christopher. For centuries he was one of the popular saints, yet today most Catholics believe one of two things about the patron saint of travelers: the pope expelled St. Christopher from the calendar of saints because he never existed, or the pope demoted St. Christopher and he is no longer a saint (in which case maybe we should call him, “Mr. Christopher”). The de-sainting of St. Christopher has become a religious urban legend, a story that “everyone knows is true” but in fact is flat out wrong.

St. Christopher is still a saint in good standing …

What, then, is the source of the misinformatin about St. Christopher? It began in 1969 when Pope Paul VI authorized a complete revision of the Church’s liturgical calendar. Some popular saints such as St. Ursula and St. Catherine of Alexandria were removed from the calendar because Vatican hagiographers believed they were apocraphal characters. Other saints had their feast days lowered in rank to an optional memorial, which lets local churches decide if they will commemorate the saint to the Mass of the day. Media reports at the time of the shake-up often got the facts wrong, only adding to the confustion. It didn’t help that many bishops and parish priests failed to explain to the people in the pews what was happening. Unfortunately, St. Christopher was one of the victims of this mess.

There are perhaps as many as forty thousand saints recognized by the Catholic Church. But there are only 365 days in a year. Consequently, every day is the feast day of dozens of saints. SInce time immemorial July 25 has been the feast day of both the apostle St. James the Greater and of St. Christopher (to say nothing of many other less well-known saints). In the hierarchy of saints, an apostle outranks a martyr, even a martyr as famous as St. Christopher. After the 1969 revision of the Chruch’s calendar, priests throughout the world were instructed to offer Mass on July 25 in honor of St. James. This is the general rule, but, it is not carved in stone. Parishes and chapels dedicated to St. Christopher, or regions where St. Christopher is especially honoured, have the option of celebrating his Mass on July 25."

Saints Behaving Badly. Thomas Cavanaugh. Pages 24-26.

Where is St. Valentine no longer a saint? This is news to me!

 

[Wonderboo]

Where is St. Valentine no longer a saint? This is news to me!

What I’m quoting is at the very bottom of the article so you have to read all the way (otherwise it sounds like he still is a saint)
“The saint’s feast day was removed from the Church calendar in 1969 as part of a broader effort to remove saints viewed by some as being of purely legendary origin.[citation needed] The feast day is still celebrated within the Church on local calendars such as in Balzan and in Malta where relics of the saint are claimed to be found, and also throughout the world by Traditionalist Catholics who follow the older, pre-Vatican II calendar. Prior to the creation of the new calendar, the church in Rome that had been dedicated to him observed his feast day by, among other things, displaying his reputed skull surrounded by roses.”

answers.com/topic/saint-valentine

On another note…thats good about Saint Chris…like I said I wasn’t sure…thanks for that

 

[Syele]

Why do you say St. Valentine is not a Saint?

 

[churchcamefirst]

Please don’t. That’s not what this thread is about.

Wonderboo, please don’t feel you have to answer.

"Poor St. Christopher. For centuries he was one of the popular saints, yet today most Catholics believe one of two things about the patron saint of travelers: the pope expelled St. Christopher from the calendar of saints because he never existed, or the pope demoted St. Christopher and he is no longer a saint (in which case maybe we should call him, “Mr. Christopher”). The de-sainting of St. Christopher has become a religious urban legend, a story that “everyone knows is true” but in fact is flat out wrong.

St. Christopher is still a saint in good standing …

What, then, is the source of the misinformatin about St. Christopher? It began in 1969 when Pope Paul VI authorized a complete revision of the Church’s liturgical calendar. Some popular saints such as St. Ursula and St. Catherine of Alexandria were removed from the calendar because Vatican hagiographers believed they were apocraphal characters. Other saints had their feast days lowered in rank to an optional memorial, which lets local churches decide if they will commemorate the saint to the Mass of the day. Media reports at the time of the shake-up often got the facts wrong, only adding to the confustion. It didn’t help that many bishops and parish priests failed to explain to the people in the pews what was happening. Unfortunately, St. Christopher was one of the victims of this mess.

There are perhaps as many as forty thousand saints recognized by the Catholic Church. But there are only 365 days in a year. Consequently, every day is the feast day of dozens of saints. SInce time immemorial July 25 has been the feast day of both the apostle St. James the Greater and of St. Christopher (to say nothing of many other less well-known saints). In the hierarchy of saints, an apostle outranks a martyr, even a martyr as famous as St. Christopher. After the 1969 revision of the Chruch’s calendar, priests throughout the world were instructed to offer Mass on July 25 in honor of St. James. This is the general rule, but, it is not carved in stone. Parishes and chapels dedicated to St. Christopher, or regions where St. Christopher is especially honoured, have the option of celebrating his Mass on July 25."

Saints Behaving Badly. Thomas Cavanaugh. Pages 24-26.

Where is St. Valentine no longer a saint? This is news to me!

This question is not for you. I think he can answer for himself…

 

[larry_m]

Being A Protestant I don’t believe any man or woman has the right to pick & choose who is considered a saint & then make it so. That is only the perogative of the Judge, our Savior. Paul, in his letters, calls all believers saints. That is not a contradiction of the above. He was led by the Spirit. It stands as heresy to take upon ones self the name, title, or perogative of Deity. Whether forgiving someone of sin, as only the Almighty has the right to, or saying this person is a saint & this one isn’t. So in answer to the question what I know about those so called saints, of course I know about the biblical names but the other ones nothing. I leave the Judge to seperate the wheat from the chaff. He only can read the heart. I go along with King David, who will judge me, man or the Almighty? I trust the Almighty more than man.

 

[SIA]

Just like the title says, what do you know about any of the Saints whom the Catholic or the Orthodox venerate? Whether stories or histories, what have you heard, what do you know about:

St. Joseph

The Blessed Virgin Mother

St. Francis

St. Anthony

St. George

St Therese the Little Flower

St. Benedict

St. Dominic

St. John the Baptist

St. Mark

St. Luke

St. Christopher

St. Mungo

St. Bernadette

St. Martin de Porres

St. Edward

St. Henry

St. Patrick

St. Valentine

St. Nicholas

ect. No fair looking up any of these names online or in books or on the television or through any other media. The question struck me and so I am throwing it out to you, what do you know about any of the Saints, both Biblical and after?

Bet ya didn’t know that us Anglicans ALSO believe in the Communion of Saints!

 

[Reformed]

Just like the title says, what do you know about any of the Saints whom the Catholic or the Orthodox venerate? Whether stories or histories, what have you heard, what do you know about:

St. Joseph

The Blessed Virgin Mother

St. Francis

St. Anthony

St. George

St Therese the Little Flower

St. Benedict

St. Dominic

St. John the Baptist

St. Mark

St. Luke

St. Christopher

St. Mungo

St. Bernadette

St. Martin de Porres

St. Edward

St. Henry

St. Patrick

St. Valentine

St. Nicholas

ect. No fair looking up any of these names online or in books or on the television or through any other media. The question struck me and so I am throwing it out to you, what do you know about any of the Saints, both Biblical and after?

All regenerate Christians are saints.