Protestants: What would Christianity look like if the Catholic Church were to disappear tomorrow?

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Randy_Carson said:
You seem to have even more free time on your hands than I do. 😉
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It’s not difficult to locate posts in threads such as these. 😛
Randy_Carson said:
In the movie, The Pelican Brief, starring Denzel Washington and Julia Roberts, there is a scene in which someone is assasinated in a crowded plaza. After the sound of the gunshot, panic ensues with people wildly running in all directions until the camera pulls back to reveal a large empty concourse with a single body lying in a pool of blood.

That’s what Christianity would look like without the Catholic Church.
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^That took me 2 minutes.
 
JustaServant said:
Asked this question four years ago during NCRs “wild west” days. 😃
I’d like the get the newbies answers now.

Would it be powerful or insignificant?
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For me personally, very little would change.

For the world stage, I believe it would be a very negative development,
 
JustaServant said:
Asked this question four years ago during NCRs “wild west” days. 😃
I’d like the get the newbies answers now.

Would it be powerful or insignificant?
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St. Padre Pio said it would be easier for the earth to exist without the sun than without the sacrifice of the Mass. No Catholic Church means no sacrifice of the Mass…the rest is elementary.
 
perro_sarnoso said:
The premise is a self contained impossibility because Jesus Christ is Lord.

But, to entertain your question…protestant churches wouldn’t exist because:

The Catholic church is the one, true church that Christ intended to exist after His ascension into heaven and of which He left Peter as it’s first Pope…264 popes later to Pope Francis. And the gates of hell have not and will not prevail against her.
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Pope Francis is the 266th Pope
 
Memaw said:
But it truly belongs to the Catholic Church where the Pope is and the Teaching authority of Christ’s Church resides. God Bless, Memaw
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To the Church Catholic, yes. To the Roman Church, not so much.
 
The Orthodox Church ‘belongs’ to Rome in the same way that my ice cream belongs to my sister. We were both given ice cream, both allowed to enjoy it. Neither gets to claim all the ice cream, no matter how greedy my sister may be. Especially if she starts adding a bunch of non-ice cream to hers.
 
Rawb said:
The Orthodox Church ‘belongs’ to Rome in the same way that my ice cream belongs to my sister. We were both given ice cream, both allowed to enjoy it. Neither gets to claim all the ice cream, no matter how greedy my sister may be. Especially if she starts adding a bunch of non-ice cream to hers.
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If you try to make ice cream without all the required ingredients…you end up with something else other than ice cream. Orthodox Churches not in communion with Rome lack all the needed ingredients to make ice cream. BTW… I love peanut butter cups mixed in with my ice cream!
 
It’s a pretty dumb hypothetical considering Christ said that it would never occur. If the Catholic Church really were to vanish, however, then we would no for sure that the real Church is elsewhere…probably with the Orthodox, excluding the miaphysites.
 
concretecamper said:
If you try to make ice cream without all the required ingredients…you end up with something else other than ice cream. Orthodox Churches not in communion with Rome lack all the needed ingredients to make ice cream. BTW… I love peanut butter cups mixed in with my ice cream!
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I suppose that’s the essence of the problem. It’s been so long since Romans have had real, pure ice cream that they can’t recognize it, and think the preservative filled and artificially flavored concoction they’re used to is real ice cream. Come back to the natural and organic real food!
 
Rawb said:
I suppose that’s the essence of the problem. It’s been so long since Romans have had real, pure ice cream that they can’t recognize it, and think the preservative filled and artificially flavored concoction they’re used to is real ice cream. Come back to the natural and organic real food!
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Nah…I will stick with the only Christian religion that has not caved to secular pressures.
 
Rawb said:
The Orthodox Church ‘belongs’ to Rome in the same way that my ice cream belongs to my sister. We were both given ice cream, both allowed to enjoy it. Neither gets to claim all the ice cream, no matter how greedy my sister may be. Especially if she starts adding a bunch of non-ice cream to hers.
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I think the Orthodox never had any ice cream in the first place. It was Rome’s ice cream all along, the Orthodox just decided they didn’t want to share.
 
concretecamper said:
Nah…I will stick with the only Christian religion that has not caved to secular pressures.
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…right.

youtube.com/watch?v=QxcOv4zPoVo

Comparison between two pontifical liturgies between our churches. Yours comes from a Eucharistic Congress Mass, ours from a Good Friday Liturgy, but both are being done under the approval of multiple bishops from each church. Lex orandi lex credendi.
 
Rawb said:
…right.

youtube.com/watch?v=QxcOv4zPoVo

Comparison between two pontifical liturgies between our churches. Yours comes from a Eucharistic Congress Mass, ours from a Good Friday Liturgy, but both are being done under the approval of multiple bishops from each church. Lex orandi lex credendi.
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Nice try…how about something other than form (by the way I love dancing). If that is the best you’ve got I suggest you start looking at truth. What truth did the Orthodox teach less than 100 years ago and then abandon because of secular pressure. Did Christ cave to secular pressure?

Your example shows you have nothing…
 
JustaServant said:
Asked this question four years ago during NCRs “wild west” days. 😃
I’d like the get the newbies answers now.

Would it be powerful or insignificant?
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I think civilization as we know it today would end.

Think of it. No more paintings, except for abstract expressionism and landscape paintings. Only Expressionist sculpture; everything Michelangelo and h is followers ever did would vanish. No Mozart, Schubert, or Gregorian Chant. No organs or violins. Of course, a lot of really bad guitar music would also disappear. 🤷

The discoveries of Copernicus, Galileo, and other Vatican scientists would vanish. The idea of having Universities would vanish, together with Dorothy Day’s idea of educating the children of the poor through public schools. The majority of hospitals, schools, and orphanages would vanish.
 
concretecamper said:
Nice try…how about something other than form (by the way I love dancing). If that is the best you’ve got I suggest you start looking at truth. What truth did the Orthodox teach less than 100 years ago and then abandon because of secular pressure. Did Christ cave to secular pressure?

Your example shows you have nothing…
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If you’re talking about contraception, the Roman Catholics are the only ones who believe that 100 years ago every Christian was against it. I once read a book about the different denominations of Christianity written before the 1930’s (which is when Romans say everyone changed) and each was asked the same questions for comparative purposes. Not a single non-Catholic source claimed that contraception was an intrinsic evil. Not even close.

How many non-Catholic sources have told you that they used to hold to the sinfulness of contraception? It’s always Roman sources and out-of-context ECF quotes. Roman revisionist history strikes again.
 
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