Protestants, why are you not Catholic?

[Croc]

Jesus told you. you shouldn’t be Catholic and you should persecute his people? What page it that on?

In all these discussions, one thing I look forward to is to enter heaven.
I boast in Christ, and Him alone! Him who is the begging and the perfecter of my faith. A religion will never take me anywhere whether Catholic or non-catholic.

 

[Croc]

Okay. Well, pass these on to your friend for me, and invite him to stop by the forum…I’d love to chat with him:

John 14: 16-17, 26: “I will ask the Father and he will give you another Paraclete—to be with you always; the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot accept, since it neither sees him nor recognizes him because he remains with you and will be within you . . . . the Paraclete, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send will remind you of all that I have told you”

John 16:14: “When the Spirit of truth comes He will guide you to all truth”

Luke 10:16: “He who hears you, hears me”

Mt. 16:19: I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven

Matthew 23:1-3: Then said Jesus to the crowds and to his disciples, "The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses’ seat; so practice and observe whatever they tell you, but not what they do; for they preach, but do not practice.

(**NOTE - Just as the scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses’ seat, the Pope sits on the chair of Peter. And notice how Jesus told everyone to obey the scribes and the Pharisees, even though they were sinners. Just so, we have to obey the Pope in matters of faith and morals in the Church, even if the Pope is a sinner).

Roman Catholic started as the State Religion of the Roman Empire in AD312 during the reign of Emperor Constantine. That is why it is “Roman” and not related to Israel/ Jerusalem the cradle land of Christianity. The Roman Empire persecuted the 1st century Christians mercilessly and later, as they had done with other pantheons, joined all forms of worship to form a State Religion called Roman Catholic. The name even does not reflect Christianity; it means ‘for all’ is it included pagans of all kinds and from all places.

 

[GaryTaylor]

The belief that Roman Catholic was the Original Church is completely erroneous…

Not hard to see why you think what you think, you based your conclusions on terrible research.

During the time of Christ, the Romans had their own state religion, and the Emperor was the Pontiff Maximus and he could offer sacrifices to gods. Also the Romans had assimilated many deities from other places especially Greece; for every Greek deity, there was an equivalent in Rome eg Zeus of Greece = Apollo of Rome…

And?

Christians were greatly hated by the Roman Emperors. The reason was because they preached against the pagan worship of the Romans. In AD 68, Emperor Nero persecuted many Christians including the apostles. Most of them were burned alive or allowed to be ravaged by wild animals. Jerusalem was besieged and destroyed completely in AD70 and the original Christianity almost got decimated.This is why the belief that Roman Catholic was the Original Church is incorrect. .

Why, why is it you come to this false conclusion? Almost destroyed doesn’t mean was destroyed, since it was always there though this period.

The Didache and the First Letter of Clement existed. And clearly indicated the Church’s already existed.

Ignatius of Antioch left his letters 107-AD

earlychristianwritings.com/ignatius.html

Roman Catholicism in its current form started in AD312 when Emperor Constantine was inspired to use the Christian Cross as a symbol in his battle. When he won the battle, he owed the victory to the god of Christians. The Romans believed in many gods and goddesses and so he thought its one of the superior gods. Thus, he legalized Christianity and elevated it to equal the state religion though he still remained a pagan. .

Wrong again. The Edict of Milan issued by the Roman Emperor Constantine I 313 A. D. marked an end of anti Christianity. Constantine can be read and its documented, his vision can be read and so can his life and struggle with conversion. What the Romans believed and what the Christians believed is completely documented in this era and have nothing to do with each other other than the recognized faith helped Constantine reduce conflict within his empire such as you mentioned with Nero. Thus he expanded the empire, the empire being his first priority. Though mixed beliefs existed as always. The stop of the persecution allowed Christianity to grow from its state of persecution.

The new State religion required systems of worship. The few Christians who had survived the great persecution could not handle the Empire-wide transition. So, all the pagan priests of all kinds were called upon to leave their religion and form the new State Religion of the Roman Empire. They did the best they knew-how and formed the Roman Catholic Church for the Roman Empire…

Completely false. there is an unbroken line of succession, I suggest you re-read the History of the Roman empire.

Pagan and Christian worship existed. Constantine was confused and mixed both for a period, has nothing to do with the Church.

The title ‘Pope’ was in use even before Christianity and was conferred to the high Priest of the Church of Rome. Later, the Title of the Emperor, “Pontiff Maximus” was given to the pope as the most senior Priest who could offer sacrifices to the gods of Rome…

Again wrong, the earliest record of the use of this title was in regard to the by then deceased Patriarch of Alexandria, Pope Heraclas of Alexandria (232–248)

Thus, there is a long history behind the Roman State Religion (Catholic) than what is simply said and believed.

To which you seem to have a confused understanding.

 

[Isaiah45_9]

Then where is the difference?
I wonder if you found Christ, the principal theme of the Bible.

Wonder no more.

Matthew 10:40 “He who receives you receives Me, and he who receives Me receives Him who sent Me.

Luke 10:16 He who hears you hears Me, he who rejects you rejects Me, and he who rejects Me rejects Him who sent Me.”

And Christ is not a theme, but the risen Son of God - who was crucified, died, and raised again, and sits at the right hand of God, The Father Almighty. And who will come again to judge the living and the dead. And His kingdom will have no end.

Him who said:

Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age.”

Him who paid my ransom and guides my path. Who’s Word is living and active and not confined to a book but living and active throughout the world, in thoughts and in actions.

That Christ, the one without limits.

 

[Isaiah45_9]

In all these discussions, one thing I look forward to is to enter heaven.
I boast in Christ, and Him alone! Him who is the begging and the perfecter of my faith. A religion will never take me anywhere whether Catholic or non-catholic.

You are not going to enter heaven discussing on a board. You enter heaven through Christ.

 

[Kliska]

But I’m curious, what Catholic authors have you read and what books do you own?

Wow, this would take awhile. I teach a comparative religions course at the local college and it includes Roman Catholicism and Protestantism. So, I have texts written by “secular” authors, RC authors, and Protestant authors. I also teach philosophy so that dips into all the philosophers in the church such as Aquinas, Augustine, etc… as well as those philosophers who contributed to the ideas such as transubstantiation; Plato, Socrates, Aristotle, etc… Of course I’ve done scriptural studies as far back as jr. high, and I have the Catechism. More modern writers such as Kreeft, GKC, Jimmy Akin, etc…

I love studying various religions and seriously have checked into my faith and why I believe what I believe. I’ve watched hours and hours of EWTN, including “The Journey Home” and “Mother Angelica”. I do believe in checking out claims, especially exclusive claims; the RCC claims to have the fullness of truth, so I owed it to truth to check it out for myself. So far, I haven’t been convicted nor convinced.

I’m here on these boards because, though I’ve read and studied, I haven’t ever had the opportunity to really interact with conservative practicing RC’s.

 

[aidanbradypop]

Wow, this would take awhile. I teach a comparative religions course at the local college and it includes Roman Catholicism and Protestantism. So, I have texts written by “secular” authors, RC authors, and Protestant authors. I also teach philosophy so that dips into all the philosophers in the church such as Aquinas, Augustine, etc… as well as those philosophers who contributed to the ideas such as transubstantiation; Plato, Socrates, Aristotle, etc… Of course I’ve done scriptural studies as far back as jr. high, and I have the Catechism. More modern writers such as Kreeft, GKC, Jimmy Akin, etc…

I love studying various religions and seriously have checked into my faith and why I believe what I believe. I’ve watched hours and hours of EWTN, including “The Journey Home” and “Mother Angelica”. I do believe in checking out claims, especially exclusive claims; the RCC claims to have the fullness of truth, so I owed it to truth to check it out for myself. So far, I haven’t been convicted nor convinced.

I’m here on these boards because, though I’ve read and studied, I haven’t ever had the opportunity to really interact with conservative practicing RC’s.

Do you have any Archie?

 

[Kliska]

Do you have any Archie?

I do!!

 

[SoMissCatholic]

The belief that Roman Catholic was the Original Church is completely erroneous.
During the time of Christ, the Romans had their own state religion, and the Emperor was the Pontiff Maximus and he could offer sacrifices to gods. Also the Romans had assimilated many deities from other places especially Greece; for every Greek deity, there was an equivalent in Rome eg Zeus of Greece = Apollo of Rome.

Christians were greatly hated by the Roman Emperors. The reason was because they preached against the pagan worship of the Romans. In AD 68, Emperor Nero persecuted many Christians including the apostles. Most of them were burned alive or allowed to be ravaged by wild animals. Jerusalem was besieged and destroyed completely in AD70 and the original Christianity almost got decimated.This is why the belief that Roman Catholic was the Original Church is incorrect.

Roman Catholicism in its current form started in AD312 when Emperor Constantine was inspired to use the Christian Cross as a symbol in his battle. When he won the battle, he owed the victory to the god of Christians. The Romans believed in many gods and goddesses and so he thought its one of the superior gods. Thus, he legalized Christianity and elevated it to equal the state religion though he still remained a pagan.

The new State religion required systems of worship. The few Christians who had survived the great persecution could not handle the Empire-wide transition. So, all the pagan priests of all kinds were called upon to leave their religion and form the new State Religion of the Roman Empire. They did the best they knew-how and formed the Roman Catholic Church for the Roman Empire.
The title ‘Pope’ was in use even before Christianity and was conferred to the high Priest of the Church of Rome. Later, the Title of the Emperor, “Pontiff Maximus” was given to the pope as the most senior Priest who could offer sacrifices to the gods of Rome.

Thus, there is a long history behind the Roman State Religion (Catholic) than what is simply said and believed.

Friend, you have some some woefully erroneous beliefs about the history of Christianity and the beliefs of the Catholic Church. I would suggest reading this article to help correct your misunderstandings and provide you with an accurate portrayal of what the Catholic Church actually is instead of the caricature you represent it to be.

 

[SoMissCatholic]

Roman Catholic started as the State Religion of the Roman Empire in AD312 during the reign of Emperor Constantine. That is why it is “Roman” and not related to Israel/ Jerusalem the cradle land of Christianity. The Roman Empire persecuted the 1st century Christians mercilessly and later, as they had done with other pantheons, joined all forms of worship to form a State Religion called Roman Catholic. The name even does not reflect Christianity; it means ‘for all’ is it included pagans of all kinds and from all places.

Again here, your beliefs regarding the history of Christianity and the Catholic Church are incorrect. As another poster pointed out, Constantine did not establish Christianity as the state religion of the Roman Empire, he simply made it legal to be Christian and put an end to the persecution of Christians. Christianity was not established as the state religion of the empire until February 27, 380, under Emperor Theodosius I.

Also, Catholicism was not referred to as “Roman” until protestants attached that label during the reformation, so your attempt to use that demonym as proof that Catholicism is somehow related to the pagan religion of ancient Rome is spurious at best.

Finally, the word “catholic” means universal, and it was used to describe the universal faith of the ancient church to distinguish it from the various heretical sects that began to crop up in the early years of Christianity, such as gnosticism, docetism, and arianism. The first recorded use of the term we have is from St. Ignatius of Antioch’s Letter to the Smyrnaens in 107 A.D. (over 200 years before you claim that the Catholic Church was even founded) in which he said, “Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude [of the people] also be; even as, wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church.” Note, that he does not give any explanation for what he means by “the Catholic Church,” suggesting that the term was already in common usage by that point and would be readily understood by his readers. So, you see, the idea that the Catholic Church was not founded until 312 A.D. is simply false and has no historical basis whatsoever.

 

[Amo_a_Jesus]

Wow, this would take awhile. I teach a comparative religions course at the local college and it includes Roman Catholicism and Protestantism. So, I have texts written by “secular” authors, RC authors, and Protestant authors. I also teach philosophy so that dips into all the philosophers in the church such as Aquinas, Augustine, etc… as well as those philosophers who contributed to the ideas such as transubstantiation; Plato, Socrates, Aristotle, etc… Of course I’ve done scriptural studies as far back as jr. high, and I have the Catechism. More modern writers such as Kreeft, GKC, Jimmy Akin, etc…

I love studying various religions and seriously have checked into my faith and why I believe what I believe. I’ve watched hours and hours of EWTN, including “The Journey Home” and “Mother Angelica”. I do believe in checking out claims, especially exclusive claims; the RCC claims to have the fullness of truth, so I owed it to truth to check it out for myself. So far, I haven’t been convicted nor convinced.

I’m here on these boards because, though I’ve read and studied, I haven’t ever had the opportunity to really interact with conservative practicing RC’s.

Kliska you will never founnd the truth on a Book or a ewnt, you will find it in your heart, pray to Jesus to show you the truth, If you think you find it so be it.

I have to say something about the Prayer of saints that Protestants use so much to attack Catholics:

1. My personal case, it is to rare that I pray a saint, In my case I always Pray to God Father, Jesus MY ONLY SAVIOR AND LORD, and of course I ask Mother Mary to Pray for me, and that not make more or less Catholic.

2.It is true that many Popular devotions are wrong, specially in Latin countries, many people need to be corrected about that, Jesus is the Head, the foundation, the Only one, we are save by his Blood and I declared and Die for it if I have to that He is My Lord.

1. many protestants use the argument of the saints for criticized us, and on some cases they may have a reason, if you spend more time praying to saint… and your not Focus on GOD father, and God Son you wrong but that not apply to many people, I will say that many of Catholics i know focus on Jesus all the time.
2. the Saints are the a example to follow not only be Catholics i will say to any human being, can you image half of the world with the Heart of Mother Theresa? or can you imagine humans loving a protecting animals like Saint Francis? I will love to get that point of love and respect for our Lord that the Saint achieve on their lives, If i need or feel that i need to ask any of those amazing and Holy people that pray for me i will do it like i can ask any of my protestant friends that pray for me.

So i think the argument of the prayer of the saints is not valid, (a least not in my case) we do love them, respect them and Ask to pray for us… But all the Honor the Glory Is for JESUS, if you go to a mass how many times did you hear a priest mention a Saint? or even pray for it? very rare mass is all about Jesus, we don’t even say the Holy Mary.

I wish everybody the best Christmas, and i hope the your receive with joy and happiness the Birth of the KING of Kings Jesus of Nazareth !!

 

[Randy_Carson]

Wow, this would take awhile. I teach a comparative religions course at the local college and it includes Roman Catholicism and Protestantism. So, I have texts written by “secular” authors, RC authors, and Protestant authors. I also teach philosophy so that dips into all the philosophers in the church such as Aquinas, Augustine, etc… as well as those philosophers who contributed to the ideas such as transubstantiation; Plato, Socrates, Aristotle, etc… Of course I’ve done scriptural studies as far back as jr. high, and I have the Catechism. More modern writers such as Kreeft, GKC, Jimmy Akin, etc…

I love studying various religions and seriously have checked into my faith and why I believe what I believe. I’ve watched hours and hours of EWTN, including “The Journey Home” and “Mother Angelica”. I do believe in checking out claims, especially exclusive claims; the RCC claims to have the fullness of truth, so I owed it to truth to check it out for myself. So far, I haven’t been convicted nor convinced.

I’m here on these boards because, though I’ve read and studied, I haven’t ever had the opportunity to really interact with conservative practicing RC’s.

That’s a good list, and it is a rare treat, sadly, to have a chance to talk to someone who disagrees with what we ACTUALLY believe rather than what they think we believe.

So, if you had to strip away all the secondary issues, what would you say is the ONE issue that is your “no budge” disagreement with Catholicism as you currently understand it. And why?

Thanks.

 

[FathersKnowBest]

As a non-catholic, I find too many differences between the 2 faiths.
The main one is Supremacy of Christ,

What, you DON’T believe that Christ is supreme?
Cause we do, and if this is a difference, then there is trouble.

No, I know what you were trying to say, but I’m just pointing out that you’re quite wrong about our beliefs. Completely wrong.

 

[FathersKnowBest]

The belief that Roman Catholic was the Original Church is completely erroneous.
During the time of Christ, the Romans had their own state religion, and the Emperor was the Pontiff Maximus and he could offer sacrifices to gods. Also the Romans had assimilated many deities from other places especially Greece; for every Greek deity, there was an equivalent in Rome eg Zeus of Greece = Apollo of Rome.

Christians were greatly hated by the Roman Emperors. The reason was because they preached against the pagan worship of the Romans. In AD 68, Emperor Nero persecuted many Christians including the apostles. Most of them were burned alive or allowed to be ravaged by wild animals. Jerusalem was besieged and destroyed completely in AD70 and the original Christianity almost got decimated.This is why the belief that Roman Catholic was the Original Church is incorrect.

Roman Catholicism in its current form started in AD312 when Emperor Constantine was inspired to use the Christian Cross as a symbol in his battle. When he won the battle, he owed the victory to the god of Christians. The Romans believed in many gods and goddesses and so he thought its one of the superior gods. Thus, he legalized Christianity and elevated it to equal the state religion though he still remained a pagan.

The new State religion required systems of worship. The few Christians who had survived the great persecution could not handle the Empire-wide transition. So, all the pagan priests of all kinds were called upon to leave their religion and form the new State Religion of the Roman Empire. They did the best they knew-how and formed the Roman Catholic Church for the Roman Empire.
The title ‘Pope’ was in use even before Christianity and was conferred to the high Priest of the Church of Rome. Later, the Title of the Emperor, “Pontiff Maximus” was given to the pope as the most senior Priest who could offer sacrifices to the gods of Rome.

Thus, there is a long history behind the Roman State Religion (Catholic) than what is simply said and believed.

The Church must’ve pulled off quite a miracle by going back in time and inserting beliefs and writings into Christianity long before 312AD.

Seriously, you’re treading on very dangerous ground here. IF you go back and read what the Church, including some of the greatest martyrs of early Christianity who died horribly rather than offer even a single pinch of incense to Caesar, wrote, you’ll see that they were totally and thoroughly Catholic. And not protestant.

 

[almostacat]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Croc View Post

As a non-catholic, I find too many differences between the 2 faiths.
The main one is Supremacy of Christ, the second one is the authority of the Word of God.
Being a protestant does not imply protesting against God, but protesting against a teaching that is questionable.

the hardest thing about being raised catholic–

is discovering that there is very little – education and training in how to function as a christian and follower of Jesus–

and when you go out side of the Catholic organization-- you are branded a heretic–

i have found very few roman catholic churches that had any meaningful education in functioning as a deciple- and i spent 12 years in that system of education

as moses said in numbers 11;29
Numbers 11:29 But Moses replied, "Are you jealous for my sake? I …

biblehub.com/numbers/11-29.htm‎

“Are you jealous on account of me?” Moses asked in reply. “I wish all of the LORD’s people were prophets and that the LORD would put his spirit upon them!”

youtu.be/kKbTtc0ktb0

 

[1rocky1]

My name is Walt & I am a Christian thru Christ alone. I know there are churches out there that profess to be Christian however when you study their beliefs & doctrines they are anything but. If this question is inferring that protestants are not Christians then I challenge you to “define” what a Christian is according to the bible & post it as such. I am a truth seeker.

Why are Protestants not Catholics ? To even ask the question as to why protestants are not Catholic is to infer that protestants are not Christians according to the Catholic Churches standards. Where in the bible does it say that the Catholic Church is the true church. I have had Catholics tell me that I will go to hell because I am not attending the Catholic Church. Well that is a lie from the pit of hell.Let me give you my reasons why I left the Catholic church:

God and only God sets the bar or standards for us to live by

I am a follower of Jesus & His teachings. I do not put a “tag” on what church or denomination I am. I attend a church where biblical truth is taught & the teaching alone can last anywhere from 30 minutes to an hour. I don’t see that in the Catholic church.

I test what I am told by someone be it a priest, rabbi or pastor & have found a lot of teaching to be incorrect both in the Catholic Church as well as a main stream Christian church. I will test the spirits to see whether they are of God or satan.

By the way when I went to Catholic sunday school I would be grabbed by the ear or struck with a black belt if I questioned anything.

Satan comes as an angel of light to deceive & tempt, to kill steal & destroy.

The church that Christ established was done so on the day of Pentecost & the people in the church were referred to as Christians solely not Catholic. I was born & brought up in the Catholic faith from 1947 until 1980 when I made a decision to leave the Catholic Church after reading the bible. I had such a hunger & thirst for the bible & could not put it down. What I found out was that there are many many contradictions between the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church & the bible.

The bible is the sole source of God’s word…not the pope nor any other man. The bible admonishes us to test the spirits & to study & show ourselves approved. The Holy Spirit guides us to all truth…not man.

I don’t see any Catholics carrying a bible…maybe a chatechism.

Also I love & enjoy the praise & worship in the church I go to which is Calvary Chapel of Aurora Co. Our service lasts upwards of 2 hrs. The Catholic Service is usually an hour long & to me is not enjoyable.

The bible states praying to the dead is detestable to God.

We need not confess our sins to a priest which, by the way, the priesthood ended when the 2nd temple was destroyed in 70 AD. We confess to Christ, who is our mediator according to the bible & we are assured we are forgiven.

The bible tells us that as a Christian we belong to a royal priesthood.

The priest in the temple never ever held confession. He offered up the sacrifices people brought for the atonement of their sins as their sins were not “forgiven”. There is a difference.

Christ alone saved us thru His shed blood & His death & resurrection upon the cross.

Mary has no place in salvation, she was solely the earthly mother of Christ & stated she needed a savior . Mary was not sinless regardless of what the church teaches. The Catholic Church can’t back it up with scripture.

There are many many changes in the teachings of the Catholic Church today that were different from when I attended the Catholic church. God never changes, He is the same yesterday, today & forever & His word never changes.

Purgatory is not biblical.

Christians are saints & saints are Christians…living & breathing believers in Christ

I was told by Catholic Church Radio years back that I cannot have an absolute assurance of going to heaven when I die but I could have a moral assurance. That makes no sense at all & undermines the suffering, shed blood & the death & resurrection of Christ. It is also a lie from the pit of hell. The bible tells us in many places that we have the assurance of salvation & going to heaven when we die because we accepted Christ as our Lord & savior.

If I am “excommunicated” from this site because of my response…so be it but I answered the question asked.

Now I have a question…Catholics…why are you not Protestants.

Blessings in Christ
Walt

 

[Randy_Carson]

Now I have a question…Catholics…why are you not Protestants.

I was. Then I started reading.

 

[aidanbradypop]

I was. Then I started reading.

That was a faster reply than I thought.

 

[Randy_Carson]

My name is Walt & I am a Christian thru Christ alone. I know there are churches out there that profess to be Christian however when you study their beliefs & doctrines they are anything but. If this question is inferring that protestants are not Christians then I challenge you to “define” what a Christian is according to the bible & post it as such. I am a truth seeker.

Why are Protestants not Catholics ? To even ask the question as to why protestants are not Catholic is to infer that protestants are not Christians according to the Catholic Churches standards. Where in the bible does it say that the Catholic Church is the true church. I have had Catholics tell me that I will go to hell because I am not attending the Catholic Church. Well that is a lie from the pit of hell.Let me give you my reasons why I left the Catholic church:

God and only God sets the bar or standards for us to live by

I am a follower of Jesus & His teachings. I do not put a “tag” on what church or denomination I am. I attend a church where biblical truth is taught & the teaching alone can last anywhere from 30 minutes to an hour. I don’t see that in the Catholic church.

I test what I am told by someone be it a priest, rabbi or pastor & have found a lot of teaching to be incorrect both in the Catholic Church as well as a main stream Christian church. I will test the spirits to see whether they are of God or satan.

By the way when I went to Catholic sunday school I would be grabbed by the ear or struck with a black belt if I questioned anything.

Satan comes as an angel of light to deceive & tempt, to kill steal & destroy.

The church that Christ established was done so on the day of Pentecost & the people in the church were referred to as Christians solely not Catholic. I was born & brought up in the Catholic faith from 1947 until 1980 when I made a decision to leave the Catholic Church after reading the bible. I had such a hunger & thirst for the bible & could not put it down. What I found out was that there are many many contradictions between the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church & the bible.

The bible is the sole source of God’s word…not the pope nor any other man. The bible admonishes us to test the spirits & to study & show ourselves approved. The Holy Spirit guides us to all truth…not man.

I don’t see any Catholics carrying a bible…maybe a chatechism.

Also I love & enjoy the praise & worship in the church I go to which is Calvary Chapel of Aurora Co. Our service lasts upwards of 2 hrs. The Catholic Service is usually an hour long & to me is not enjoyable.

The bible states praying to the dead is detestable to God.

We need not confess our sins to a priest which, by the way, the priesthood ended when the 2nd temple was destroyed in 70 AD. We confess to Christ, who is our mediator according to the bible & we are assured we are forgiven.

The bible tells us that as a Christian we belong to a royal priesthood.

The priest in the temple never ever held confession. He offered up the sacrifices people brought for the atonement of their sins as their sins were not “forgiven”. There is a difference.

Christ alone saved us thru His shed blood & His death & resurrection upon the cross.

Mary has no place in salvation, she was solely the earthly mother of Christ & stated she needed a savior . Mary was not sinless regardless of what the church teaches. The Catholic Church can’t back it up with scripture.

There are many many changes in the teachings of the Catholic Church today that were different from when I attended the Catholic church. God never changes, He is the same yesterday, today & forever & His word never changes.

Purgatory is not biblical.

Christians are saints & saints are Christians…living & breathing believers in Christ

I was told by Catholic Church Radio years back that I cannot have an absolute assurance of going to heaven when I die but I could have a moral assurance. That makes no sense at all & undermines the suffering, shed blood & the death & resurrection of Christ. It is also a lie from the pit of hell. The bible tells us in many places that we have the assurance of salvation & going to heaven when we die because we accepted Christ as our Lord & savior.

If I am “excommunicated” from this site because of my response…so be it but I answered the question asked.

Now I have a question…Catholics…why are you not Protestants.

Blessings in Christ
Walt

Walt, thanks for all your responses. I could go through them all one-by-one to point out the errors in what you have written, and, believe me, there are some real whoppers in the list. However, what is a one-line question or statement for you could take me pages to explain. I’m happy to do it, but not all in one thread…that’s not how our forum works.

Therefore, here is my proposal: go through your list and pick out the ONE issue that stands out above the rest and start a new thread on that single topic. I’ll look for it everyday and respond quickly.

See ya soon!

 

[Isaiah45_9]

My name is Walt

… truncated …

Hi Walt.

You mean just like the Bible is not biblical?

I mean, it was men eek: oh noes, the “m” word) in the Church who were inspired to determine what the Bible is.

Or do you have an inspired list of the books to be included in the Bible?