Protestants: Why don't you follow his command? "Eat My Flesh and Drink My Blood"

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St.Eric:
Taking the victim role will not do you any good O.S… No one here has remotely bashed you or anyone else on this thread. The problem is that the protestant view cannot be defended long before the walls start crumbling (that’s why I am a convert) and that is uncomfortable, I understand. But you are not being victimized. Growth hurts, so does the truth at times. A fine piece of China does not get that way without much pain in the kiln.
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Give the rhetoric a rest, friend. I can defend my faith all day long - historically, theologically, sacramentally - else I wouldn’t be ordained in it for 20 years, so there’s no discomfort there. But I can defend my faith without denigrating yours.

Your little jabs are nice tries, but are actually making my point - and destroying yours. I do agree with you that the truth hurts.

In an increasingly secular world, it makes more sense for Christians to seek ways to build up the Body of Christ, instead of tearing it down.

In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus caritas.

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O.S. Luke:
I can defend my faith all day long - historically, theologically, sacramentally - else I wouldn’t be ordained in it for 20 years, so there’s no discomfort there.
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It’s hard to look at the other side of an issue objectively when your livelihood depends on that interpretation being wrong.
 
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JSmitty2005:
It’s hard to look at the other side of an issue objectively when your livelihood depends on that interpretation being wrong.
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You know… we just don’t ordain anyone who wants to “belong.” We have spiritual discernment, spiritual, doctrinal, and psych examinations, and even go to seminary (imagine that!)… all of this long before our “livelihoods” ever took place. In short, my faith was formed long before I was ordained.

With the education and years involved in discernment I willingly submitted myself to, I could make a lot better “livelihood” doing something else - but my heart and faith directs me otherwise. And as far as interpretation is concerned, I would think that Catholics would understand truth, obligation, and being submissive to church law and a bishop, just as I am.

The thread asked a question to Protestants: Why don’t we follow his command? I answered it (I do follow His command, and do believe in the Real Presence) but the thread seems to have been a strawman set up. I’ve challenged that such a ploy is dishonest.

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O.S. Luke:
The thread asked a question to Protestants: Why don’t we follow his command? I answered it (I do follow His command, and do believe in the Real Presence)
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That’s good to hear, but any non-Catholic/Orthodox Eucharist is invalid because of the lack of a priesthood. So even though you might believe in it, He’s not there.
 
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JSmitty2005:
That’s good to hear, but any non-Catholic/Orthodox Eucharist is invalid because of the lack of a priesthood. So even though you might believe in it, He’s not there.
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We obviously disagree. Charitably, I hope.
 
O.S. Luke:
We obviously disagree. Charitably, I hope.
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Then maybe a thread needs to be started to discuss the necessity of the priesthood in confecting the Eucharist?
 
O.S. Luke:
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The thread asked a question to Protestants: Why don’t we follow his command? I answered it (I do follow His command, and do believe in the Real Presence) but the thread seems to have been a strawman set up. I’ve challenged that such a ploy is dishonest.

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No straw man here brother. I conceded in the OP that there are a few exceptions to the protestant bisbeleif in the real presence. Obviously you are one of them. End of story. God Bless.
 
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JSmitty2005:
Then maybe a thread needs to be started to discuss the necessity of the priesthood in confecting the Eucharist?
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It’s been discussed here before. I know the Catholic and Eastern teachings on it ad nauseam. Again, I respect your teachings on the matter, but obviously disagree.
 
O.S. Luke:
It’s been discussed here before. I know the Catholic and Eastern teachings on it ad nauseam. Again, I respect your teachings on the matter, but obviously disagree.
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That’s fine as long as you’re comfortable standing against the beliefs of the early Christians.
 
O.S. Luke:
You know… we just don’t ordain anyone who wants to “belong.” We have spiritual discernment, spiritual, doctrinal, and psych examinations, and even go to seminary (imagine that!)… all of this long before our “livelihoods” ever took place. In short, my faith was formed long before I was ordained.

With the education and years involved in discernment I willingly submitted myself to, I could make a lot better “livelihood” doing something else - but my heart and faith directs me otherwise. And as far as interpretation is concerned, I would think that Catholics would understand truth, obligation, and being submissive to church law and a bishop, just as I am.

The thread asked a question to Protestants: Why don’t we follow his command? I answered it (I do follow His command, and do believe in the Real Presence) but the thread seems to have been a strawman set up. I’ve challenged that such a ploy is dishonest.

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That is interesting. You were ordained at 20 years of age? That must have been a short seminary course.
 
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St.Eric:
That is interesting. You were ordained at 20 years of age? That must have been a short seminary course.
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LOL! maybe he was on of those child prodigy’s like Jesus…teaching in the temple/church as a child…hmmmmmmmmmmm
 
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JoeyWarren:
LOL! maybe he was on of those child prodigy’s like Jesus…teaching in the temple/church as a child…hmmmmmmmmmmm
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Now , now gentlemen. Let us be careful that we do not descend into a place where charity is lacking. :tsktsk:
 
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Mickey:
Now , now gentlemen. Let us be careful that we do not descend into a place where charity is lacking. :tsktsk:
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No malice intended. I am being very serious.
 
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St.Eric:
No malice intended. I am being very serious.
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Eric, if you start typing immediately after the last quote bracket you will not get a large space…just a suggestion.

IE:
{QUOTE=St.Eric}No malice intended. I am being very serious.{/QUOTE}Eric, if you start typing immediately after the last quote bracket you will not get a large space…just a suggestion.
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see? It saves on server space as well…
 
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JoeyWarren:
Eric, if you start typing immediately after the last quote bracket you will not get a large space…just a suggestion.

IE: see? It saves on server space as well…
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Thanks.
 
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That is interesting. You were ordained at 20 years of age? That must have been a short seminary course.
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    LOL! maybe he was on of those child prodigy's like Jesus....teaching in the temple/church as a child....hmmmmmmmmmmm
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Back up you guys! OS Luke said he has been ordained for 20 years not that he was ordained at the age of 20.

Lets use charity. I have to agree that many times we Catholics due to our eagerness to defend the teachings tend to loose it. I know I used to do it whenever any JW’s would knock at my door until my wife pointed it out to me. We want all non-catholics to stick around. We don’t want them to leave. Let’s not be like some non-catholic forums where a Catholic goes to defend the CC’s position and he is ridiculed. I think apologies are due to OS Luke.

I hope those that are defending positions that are against what the CC teaches stop, think. and look at the history of such teachings. Do your beliefs reflect those of the early Church, before we had the canon, the ECF’s or do your beliefs suddenly propped up sometime after the reformation?
 
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