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Sellers1
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Abortion? Sex as recreation? I’m a Protestant and am as opposed to these as you are. Why do so many Catholics wrongfully believe that all Protestants are alike?
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estesbob
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Because being their is no accepted authority it is easy for Proesetsant to slip into cultural relatavism.
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GodIsGracious
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Especially when the accepted authority is in one’s own personal interpretation of scripture.
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guanophore
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Well, so is Catholicism, so how does that answer the question?
Same reason you take shots at the Catholic Church. Ignorance and prejudice.
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Carlan
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(Quote from, I’m just me post#4
I was born and raised Roman Catholic, including 6 years in Catholic Boarding school (in Italy - with nuns even!) and received Catholic Baptism, First Holy Communion, Confirmation, and Marriage. With several priests in the family and being raised by nuns (and a very devout mother) I was well indoctrinated in the Catholic faith…sometimes going to regular mass on Sunday morning and Latin mass in the afternoon.
All the years as a Catholic, I never read a Bible from cover to cover.
I wonder if you’ve ever read through the whole Bible and wondered about the inconsistencies. (end Quote)
Hello imJustme, What you aren’t remembering since you left the church, and Janet also,is what you both were taught in the convent. It was full of scripture , you may not have been told to read the bible from cover to cover, however, the TRUTH was taught to you good and proper.
As adults you should have picked up on the fact that the Bible alone theory came from the Protestant reformation arount the 1500’s. Many forget that.
The Bible alone disproves the ‘Bible Alone the theory’- the Bible comes from the Church not the other way around. St Jerome was assigned to put it together in the 400’s.
What I see in all this is that you are not acknowledging these truths when they are pointed out to you. The arguing blinds us.:tsktsk:Carlan
Amighty Father, source of everlasting light, send forth your truth into our hearts and pour over us your light. Amen
I was born and raised Roman Catholic, including 6 years in Catholic Boarding school (in Italy - with nuns even!) and received Catholic Baptism, First Holy Communion, Confirmation, and Marriage. With several priests in the family and being raised by nuns (and a very devout mother) I was well indoctrinated in the Catholic faith…sometimes going to regular mass on Sunday morning and Latin mass in the afternoon.
All the years as a Catholic, I never read a Bible from cover to cover.
I wonder if you’ve ever read through the whole Bible and wondered about the inconsistencies. (end Quote)
Hello imJustme, What you aren’t remembering since you left the church, and Janet also,is what you both were taught in the convent. It was full of scripture , you may not have been told to read the bible from cover to cover, however, the TRUTH was taught to you good and proper.
As adults you should have picked up on the fact that the Bible alone theory came from the Protestant reformation arount the 1500’s. Many forget that.
The Bible alone disproves the ‘Bible Alone the theory’- the Bible comes from the Church not the other way around. St Jerome was assigned to put it together in the 400’s.
What I see in all this is that you are not acknowledging these truths when they are pointed out to you. The arguing blinds us.:tsktsk:Carlan
Amighty Father, source of everlasting light, send forth your truth into our hearts and pour over us your light. Amen
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Earnest_Bunbury
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Yes, the Church is the rule of faith newadvent.org/cathen/05766b.htm and separating oneself from that rule makes oneself that rule. Ones own belief becomes the judge whereby one picks a church community and ultimately what that church believes. It isn’t based of ulitmate truth but what someone wants to believe, a protest against the established rule. A mini version of “I will not serve!”.
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LutheranDK
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And many RCs (on this forum) use the same method to demonize Luther (and they think that they have thereby disproved his case altogether…because that’s what the RC church told them!), and use the “Just keep posting the same Bible verses out of context again and again and again”-method of apologetics.
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atg2
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LOL
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LutheranDK
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Nope. Jerome was tasked with translating the Bible into Latin, a translation that became known as the “Vulgata” (and a rather poor translation at that…littered with additions and bad translations).
Canon was already established when Jerome began his work.
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Carlan
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g’MORNING dK, and who established the Canon, DK before Luthers disobedience,leaving the church instead of working within her to correct the wrong, we were all Catholics., as a matter of fact you are still a Catholic , you just don’t realize it. You are not listening.:banghead: Carlan
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LutheranDK
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Would you please stop trying to change the subject? I’m not stupid, so I won’t fall for that tactic…
Secondly - yes, I am a Catholic, in the proper understanding of that word, although I’m not Roman-Catholic.
Thirdly - I am listening. But listening, and agreeing with are two quite different things altogether. You made a factual mistake, I corrected it, and now you’re trying to change the subject :banghead:
May I answer?
Lutheran DK and I are both clearly still Catholic - of the Augsburg Confession. Pray for the day when all of us are one in communion again.
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The pre-schism Church of Christ in the early councils, one of which, Nice, through human tradition, gave the Bishop of Rome his jurisdiction over the west. Perhaps if we were to all go back to those teachings, and not make innovations or develop human explanations, the pre-schism Church would be reconciled and reunited.
Forgotten sometimes is that little papal bull, leaving the Church was the last thing Luther wanted. It was thrust upon him because he was disobedient. He refused to be obedient to the abuses (sins) within the Church leadership of the time.
Lutheran DK and I are both clearly still Catholic - of the Augsburg Confession. Pray for the day when all of us are one in communion again.
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Carlan
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D L , from what I understand It was the Protestants originally who tagged Roman to Catholic, more accurate would be, Apostolic Church,Why are you so cranky? all i would like to see you do really, is acknowledge the ones in this forum who point out a truth , when you and others tell us what we believe as Catholics is wrong , we have to speak the truth back to you. C
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Carlan
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Hello Jon,
Quote) It was thrust upon him because he was disobedient,end Quote) Yes , but he still had a
choice, Just think of how different things would be today if he had stayed within and fought for change. Yes, the Church does pray for the unity of the flock every day in the mass.
CarlanJust think how different things would be had Pope Leo X made an effort to keep him in?
Alas, as we know, blame on all sides, and His Church and ministry suffers as a result.
I like the way you said this: flock, singular.Yes, the Church does pray for the unity of the flock every day in the mass.
So do we.Jon
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imjustme
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This is one of our major differences of opinion. I believe that the Bible comes from God through the Holy Spirit as inspired writings. Both to the old testament prophets and the new testament disciples and followers were inspired by the Holy Spirit to write the books of the bible. Also, we are promised the Holy Spirit will guide all believers to read and understand the word.(Quote from, I’m just me post#4
I was born and raised Roman Catholic, including 6 years in Catholic Boarding school (in Italy - with nuns even!) and received Catholic Baptism, First Holy Communion, Confirmation, and Marriage. With several priests in the family and being raised by nuns (and a very devout mother) I was well indoctrinated in the Catholic faith…sometimes going to regular mass on Sunday morning and Latin mass in the afternoon.
All the years as a Catholic, I never read a Bible from cover to cover.
I wonder if you’ve ever read through the whole Bible and wondered about the inconsistencies. (end Quote)
Hello imJustme, What you aren’t remembering since you left the church, and Janet also,is what you both were taught in the convent. It was full of scripture , you may not have been told to read the bible from cover to cover, however, the TRUTH was taught to you good and proper.
As adults you should have picked up on the fact that the Bible alone theory came from the Protestant reformation arount the 1500’s. Many forget that.
The Bible alone disproves the ‘Bible Alone the theory’- **the Bible comes from the Church **not the other way around. St Jerome was assigned to put it together in the 400’s.
What I see in all this is that you are not acknowledging these truths when they are pointed out to you. The arguing blinds us.:tsktsk:Carlan
B the way, I am not arguing but only stating my belief. Thank you for your prayer…I also pray that you would receive God’s truth in your heart. The truth is in the Word which is of God and is the only thing we can consider infallible on earth.
Christ said, “Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away” (Matthew 24:35). Through the centuries, many have tried to discred*it or destroy the Bible, “But the word of the Lord endureth for ever” (I Pet. 1:25).
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estesbob
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How do we resolve it when so many thousands and thousands of people differ on what Scripture says?
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DAMKING46
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i was a protosteant but when i was converted i became a better peroson 
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GodIsGracious
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Catholics believe the same thing, through the Catholic church. SOMEONE had to write it down and compile the Bible. And it was within the Catholic church that this was done.
You’re welcome.
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Carlan
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Thank You, Damking, welcome, I am new at this too. I enjoy being here and I am learning a lot.It is good to defend our faith and Catholic answers gives us an opportunity to do that. God will continue to bless you in your journey. :thumbsup:Carlani was a protosteant but when i was converted i became a better peroson
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