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Jesus was not an academic either, yet look what He did in only 3 years…Paul was an academic, but never through it in anyones face…he spoke so he could be understood. I would be very proud of my father if I were you. He sounds like a really good man. Jesus looks at the heart and could care less at our pedigree.
 
dizzy_dave said:
What is the quickest, easiest way to prove to a Baptist that the Catholic church is the true church Jesus Christ founded, and is still the true church?
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Forget it. You can’t prove anything to a Baptist. Remember, the last thing that knows it’s in water is a fish.
 
Deconi said:
??!?!?! Is going to school for 16year indicative of something?!

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I always thought that it meant something…its called education. In my case it was 2 classes a day onn my catiechizm, and one on the mass , church history, the saints etc. Thats all it means. If it does not indicate something to you thats great. Have a nice day.
 
Deconi said:
The Bible is INERRANT…Not INFALLIBLE!

That is why there is so many versions of it, including the version you have chosen to follow, which is deficient!

When talking to Catholics I use the Catholic Bible, I’m bad

The Living Word of God is Christ and He is most certainly Infallible. Infallible when He built His church on Peter, gave him the Keys to the Kingdom and PROMISED him His guidance to all truths.

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Oh my you and I have nothing to discuss if you do not believe that the Bible is the not inspired Word of the Holy Spirit and Is infallible. I will not discuss things with an unarmed man, or boy or girl or woman…pick one. You believe it All or through it away. I believe it all.
 
Deconi said:
The Bible is INERRANT…Not INFALLIBLE!

That is why there is so many versions of it, including the version you have chosen to follow, which is deficient!

The Living Word of God is Christ and He is most certainly Infallible. Infallible when He built His church on Peter, gave him the Keys to the Kingdom and PROMISED him His guidance to all truths.

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You are wrong
 
Wheather you repond or not is up to you. When I started reading you message, I thought, just one more person taking pot shots. I see that is not the case. I use caps not for any other reason than what I say at that point has either been misunderstood, not read through, or a smart flip answer to me. It is very hard to express oneself just in type, as to the tone is unheard…sometimes its just frustration, Thanks for your note…I think you and I could communicate just fine…please read the things I filled in up above too.
 
Deconi said:
Fortunately, He left a Vicar to lead His Church until He returns!

What a man!

Does your ‘faith’ have a human link pass your pastor to the time of THAT Man? Save yourself time; you don’t! I’d be surprised if you can even trace back pass this decade!

OPEN YOUR MIND!

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So the Holy Spirit either wasn’t actually left by Jesus to lead His followers like Jesus said or the Holy Spirit was unable to do the job if the pope lead’s the church of Jesus of Nazareth. Is this new teaching? I can’t open my mind around anything like this.​

One beautiful thing about God’s Holy Bible, we don’t have to trace church leadership back through the centuries, we can go back to the source, Jesus, directly. Remember there is One Mediator between God and us, the Man Jesus.
 
DavidMark said:
I find it strange that not much mention is made about the arising of the church after three days of inertia. Christians talk about His personal body, which no one has seen for a long time; but neglect that the Church was The Body, through which He would walk and talk!

Ephesians 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

Ephesians1:21-23 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
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And the church mentioned in the post quoted here is made up of all true believers in Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ, the Lord of lords and King of Kings, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Lamb that was slain before the foundation of the world. Jesus didn’t give it a name. It is us humans that have given it dividing names. I’m glad God is bigger than our attempts to divide His church and He is able to us use inspite of this.
 
guanophore said:
This is true on several levels. They do like to look back into history, and read themselves into the history of the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.
They also stand in a linieage of heresies that have gone back a long time in history. Irenaeus wrote against some of these in the 2nd century.
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Another person who think the CC has done the work of the Holy Spirit.
The idea that Christianity can be extrapolated from the book, apart from the Sacred Tradition that produced it, is part of what results in the great plethora of denominations today, the Baptists being one of the most vociferously anti-Catholic.
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Now you are placing the CC above the Bible. WOW???
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When did you either change your name or go back to an ‘original’ version of your name? I grew up in the 50’s and 60’s. The Catholic Church was called by its members the Roman Catholic Church. Ask what church you belongs to, friends would say the Roman Catholic Church.

I think I may understand why you don’t want to be called RCC. The RCC seems to only go back to Constintine. That would be a problem for CC if it can’t trace itself back to the 1st century.
 
Deconi said:
??!?!?! Is going to school for 16year indicative of something?!

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Let me guess: 6 yrs of elementary school, 2 yrs of junior high, 4 yrs of high school and 4yrs of college all at catholic schools. 6 + 2 + 4 + 4 = 16. I guess one should hear quite a lot of what the CC believes in that time.​

BTW, how’d I do, Leslie?
 
How can anyone take you seriously when you caution Leslie and then do the same to her?
 
peary said:
Forget it. You can’t prove anything to a Baptist. Remember, the last thing that knows it’s in water is a fish.
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If you think Baptists are the only ‘know it alls’ here you’re not reading carefully or being untruthful to yourself.
 
No disrespect meant here to the RC’s but if your faith is the one true faith, founded on Peter as the first Pope and is to act in the manner of God the Father and Son then explain this to me. How can one call it that after the bloody history of persecution, support of that which is un-Christlike and even of late crimes against the innocent supported, endorsed or protected from retribution by the RCC?

Examples: The Crusades, Inquisition (with the killing of heretics), the Spanish Conquests in the New World, Sex Crimes Against Children (a very recent event I will note) , Supporting Slavery (mainly Spain), Destruction of Rare Texts, Suppression of the Jews if not Outright Hatred etc.

For me I see great good as well the charity, keeping of some knowledge by the Church during the Dark Ages and the like. But for me that can’t outweight the wrong done by a long shot. And saying the Pope and Magistrum can’t be held responsible when they head the Church is a cop out to me. The fact they lead made them all responsible of either open support of it or being ungodly letting these things happen with no action.

From ones fruits one can tell a believer its not less for a Church bound to Christ’s name. I would say your very history defies the claim I don’t need more than that as proof.
 
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