Public School vs. Catholic School

[TC3033]

You don’t see Catholicism as a vitally important set of values.

I’m pretty sure I didn’t say that. I said that I would see just being Catholic as a qualification that would trump others.

As a parent wanting the best education for my child, especially if I was paying tuition for it, I would want the school to hire the best teachers they can.

Yes. It’s you.

I don’t think so, but I guess YMMV…¯_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Elf01]

heidi_storage:

You don’t see Catholicism as a vitally important set of values.

I’m pretty sure I didn’t say that.

If you did you’d be Catholic

 

[TC3033]

Now we’re starting to move the goalposts as far apart as possible and taking things out of context.

We’re talking about hiring a teacher:

For my children I’d prefer the better professionally qualified candidate be hired. I’d rather they have the better teacher than skipping on a teacher with more credentials to hire another just because their Catholic. My wife is in the same boat as I, so I guess she’s not Catholic either.

Like I said before, I had a Catholic HS seek me out to coach there and didn’t give two hoots about whether I’m Catholic or not. They wanted the best coach. Would you consider that HS was in the wrong?

 

[Elf01]

Would you consider that HS was in the wrong?

I think a Catholic school should hire Catholic teachers where possible.

If I was a parent I would want my children to have a good education, but my most important job would be to pass on the Catholic faith to them. If I’m going to send them to a Catholic school to help do that I’d want to be sure it would actually help. Non Catholic staff would be a mark against them, but possibly not a deal breaker.

 

[TC3033]

If I was a parent I would want my children to have a good education

Agreed

my most important job would be to pass on the Catholic faith to them.

I can’t disagree with you, but…I think that happens more in the domestic church. So be sending our kids to public school because we prefer it and deem it better, the faith cannot be passed down to them?

Non Catholic staff would be a mark against them, but possibly not a deal breaker.

The Catholic school I coached at didn’t even look for a Catholic. They wanted the best available person for the job. Would you be upset with leadership for doing so, specifically the AD?

 

[Elf01]

I can’t disagree with you, but…I think that happens more in the domestic church. So be sending our kids to public school because we prefer it and deem it better, the faith cannot be passed down to them?

It can, and should be. But the reason I’d choose a Catholic school over a good public school would be to help with that.

The Catholic school I coached at didn’t even look for a Catholic. They wanted the best available person for the job. Would you be upset with leadership for doing so, specifically the AD?

Then I’d class it more as a private school where my children will get a good education. Since they are marketing themselves as a Catholic school I would more than likely send my children elsewhere.

 

[TC3033]

Since they are marketing themselves as a Catholic school I would more than likely send my children elsewhere.

All because they hired a coach (who wasn’t Catholic) because they were the best person for job? Interesting.

 

[CatholicSooner]

Elf01:

If I was a parent I would want my children to have a good education

Agreed

my most important job would be to pass on the Catholic faith to them.

I can’t disagree with you, but…I think that happens more in the domestic church. So be sending our kids to public school because we prefer it and deem it better, the faith cannot be passed down to them?

Non Catholic staff would be a mark against them, but possibly not a deal breaker.

The Catholic school I coached at didn’t even look for a Catholic. They wanted the best available person for the job. Would you be upset with leadership for doing so, specifically the AD?

I would be upset if it was a teaching position. I can see being more lax when it comes to coaches although I’d still prefer a Catholic.

 

[Elf01]

All because they hired a coach (who wasn’t Catholic) because they were the best person for job? Interesting

You say they want the best person for the job. I assumed that that would apply to people openly living against Catholic morality, and applies to all positions, not just coaches.

 

[Catholic361]

Yes I agree with @Elf01 everyone there is there to support and help the children but having a coach that is good with the kids is a good thing as well. No matter what religion they practice.

 

[TC3033]

You say they want the best person for the job. I assumed that that would apply to people openly living against Catholic morality, and applies to all positions, not just coaches.

Are you saying that just because someone isn’t Catholic, they’re automatically openly living against Catholic morality?

And yes, they thought that I was the best person for the job (even though I’m not Catholic)…and they were right.

 

[Elf01]

Are you saying that just because someone isn’t Catholic, they’re automatically openly living against Catholic morality?

No, but if they want the best person for the job, that person may be someone openly living against Catholic morality.

 

[TC3033]

I guess they wouldn’t be the best person for the job, or they wouldn’t be interested in working for a Catholic HS…¯_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Elf01]

I guess they wouldn’t be the best person for the job, or they wouldn’t be interested in working for a Catholic HS…¯_(ツ)_/¯

Some would be. There have been cases of teachers in Same Sex Marriages and IIRC pro choice teachers. They are questions I would need to figure out the answers to, and if there are other options near by, they may be more attractive.

 

[tafan2]

Coaches are a position that I feel it particularly important to be Catholic (at a Catholic school).

 

[TC3033]

Oh, OK.

I’m not Catholic and the Catholic HS came after me to be one of their coaches. I was a great role model, extremely knowledgeable, actually had a decent amount of experience and could relate with my players as I was younger (early 20’s).

I guess you wouldn’t have liked that school then, they hire us non-Catholics…even go out looking for us (especially when we’re the best thing on the market).

 

[tafan2]

I have had non Catholic coaches for my kids at a Catholic hs. It doesn’t mean I don’t like the high school. But it certainly is not my preference. Coaches have a very large influence on kids, especially boys. I send my kids to a Catholic school so that influence is Catholic. I realize you do not choose a Catholic school for your kids, but I am surprised this strong preference for Catholic teachers bothers you that much.

 

[LisaB]

Curious, did you lead the kids in prayer before and after games and practices? This was standard practice at my son’s school. Was it expected of a non-Catholic coach to do that?

 

[tafan2]

And then there is the question if which prayer. I know one coach whose teams say the Angelus after every practice and game. I have known know coaches that get their team together for mass on the mornings of games.
These little things make a huge difference.

 

[JulianN]

Many ccd patents here are not willing to giveup lavish vacations to do so.

To be fair, many of those parents are making the choice between expensive Catholic schools and food on the table —not lavish vacations. In the parish where I worked most recently, it was the school parents who went on expensive vacations—they were the ones who were rich enough to afford them.