Punishment Aceh style

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Faithdancer said:
Ad hominem. Discuss the issue, not the poster.
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The issue? Sure. It’s disgusting and barbaric that this kind of punishment is still meted out, for anything, but especially for something that isn’t even criminal in the civilized world.

And, very much related to the issue, the glee that some appear to take in this punishment reveals a lot about the difficulties homosexual persons still face, and the disgusting bigotry that still lurks in the human heart, even in the developed world.
 
The disciplinary actions taking against these individuals are examples of torture, which is specifically forbidden by the Church. This is a disgustingly anti-Christian approach to homosexuality.
 
Luke6_37 said:
If you felt the tax code was intrinsically evil you would be obliged to break it for moral reasons…but Jesus said you are to pay your taxes.
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So prohibitions against homosexual activity are intrinsically evil?
 
These individuals did not initiate violence or fraud against other persons or their property. They did not violate a contract either. Therefore the state has no right to sanction their behavior. I would not be adverse to citizens utilizing their right to discriminate against them though.
 
Inisfallen said:
They’re intrinsically cruel, anyway.
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“I do not understand objections to ‘cruel and unusual’ punishment. While a judge should be benevolent in purpose, his awards should cause the criminal to suffer, else there is no punishment…” (Robert Heinlein, Starship Troopers)
 
Inisfallen said:
They’re intrinsically cruel, anyway.
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Is God cruel? Because prohibitions against homosexual activity in Judaism, Christianity and Islam all originate with God.🙂

I would say rather that God is just, but never cruel.
 
Faithdancer said:
Is God cruel? Because prohibitions against homosexual activity in Judaism, Christianity and Islam all originate with God.🙂
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God and the Church cannot be divorced. Please explain, then, why you believe the Church would sanction such barbarity against homosexuals.
 
And I will admit that I don’t know for a fact that the western media hasn’t broadcast news of all the other canings as well. That’s…just a hunch.
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Caining is brutal.

If anyone knows they could be punished that way, they should watch what they do. It is a bad idea to indulge in behavior that means caining or whatever.

Even if spitting on a sidewalk means caining, don’t do it.
 
gracepoole said:
And clearly you have no idea what that term actually means.
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“the Church would sanction such barbarity against homosexuals”

Not my words. Didn’t even mention “the Church.” Hence, straw man.
Hope this helps!🙂
 
Faithdancer said:
Irrelevant. They knew the law, and broke it anyway.
I dont agree with all the US Tax Code. Does that mean I can go ahead and break it?
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Do you not think laws can be unjust? There are places where Christians are breaking the law when they practice their faith. Is it okay to “punish” them?
Faithdancer said:
The larger point is, this is only “news” because it involves homosexuality. And homosexuality is a cause celebre of the mainstream media.

Did said media give equal coverage to the other 300 canings?
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The media also covers times when rape victims get punished in a similar manner. Still, I think discrimination against homosexuals is a particularly bad thing and deserves to be reported on.
Faithdancer said:
They took a risk, and got caught. Do you disagree with that statement?
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All of the Christians persecuted by the Soviet Union, the PRC, Boko Haram and ISIS took a risk in choosing to continue practicing their religion and refusing to reject religion or convert to Islam. 🙂
starshiptrooper said:
“I do not understand objections to ‘cruel and unusual’ punishment. While a judge should be benevolent in purpose, his awards should cause the criminal to suffer, else there is no punishment…” (Robert Heinlein, Starship Troopers)
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You get your political beliefs from science fiction? Seems pretty dorky, but I guess a Red Pilled intellectual such as yourself should only read the finest literature, so I must be mistaken.

How do you feel about the particular punishment being discussed here?
 
You know, I get pretty ticked off at liberal Catholics who say we could have women priests, that abortion could be okay, that gay marriage could be okay. I even get annoyed by some of Pope Francis’ statements directed at traditionalists and that seem to give fuel to such liberals.

And then I come across a thread like this, and I give glory to God we have a Pope like Francis. Who am I to judge, indeed.
 
Honestly CAF just gets worse and worse. This place is becoming total trash. The mods need to do a clean up if they don’t want it to be left for the nutjobs.
 
On the one hand, if you know the punishment you have to be very careful not to get caught or you pay the price. That being said, biological urges are the strongest to try to control.

On the other hand, OP is mostly just yanking people’s chains.
 
Arizona_Fat_Gir said:
Caining is brutal.

If anyone knows they could be punished that way, they should watch what they do. It is a bad idea to indulge in behavior that means caining or whatever.

Even if spitting on a sidewalk means caining, don’t do it.
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I guess it was worth the risk, to them.
 
Faithdancer said:
“the Church would sanction such barbarity against homosexuals”

Not my words. Didn’t even mention “the Church.” Hence, straw man.
Hope this helps!🙂
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No, actually it doesn’t. You mentioned God. As I explained, the Church and God cannot be separated. The Church doesn’t craft its teachings from nothing.

Your move.
 
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