Purpose of Life!

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Jesus paid the price in full–not in part. Wherever did you get the idea that he didn’t?
Fact: We are not in the Garden of Eden
Fact: I am not perfect. Required by command of the Lord.

[BIBLEDRB]Matthew 5:48[/BIBLEDRB]

And the third fact:
[BIBLEDRB]Col 1:24[/BIBLEDRB]

If Christ paid the price in full, why are we not in the Garden of Eden? If I were there, I promise I would never touch that tree.
What do you think penance is for? Through the sacrament of reconciliation, we are given penance for the temporal punishment due to the sins we have committed. It’s so simple to pray the prayers or do the acts of charity assigned to us by the priest. We can erase temporal punishment by this means.
What can I do to erase my banishment from the Garden of Eden? I want to go there.
 
Fact: We are not in the Garden of Eden
Fact: I am not perfect. Required by command of the Lord.

[BIBLEDRB]Matthew 5:48[/BIBLEDRB]

And the third fact:
[BIBLEDRB]Col 1:24[/BIBLEDRB]

If Christ paid the price in full, why are we not in the Garden of Eden? If I were there, I promise I would never touch that tree.

What can I do to erase my banishment from the Garden of Eden? I want to go there.
As far as I know, you will go there after you die, if you’ve been a person faithful to Christ. That’s what Christ did for mankind, he gave us the gift of everlasting life in the presence of God in Heaven. If you’ve ever read the descriptions of Heaven in Revelation, it sounds a whole lot like the Garden of Eden.
 
Fact: We are not in the Garden of Eden
Fact: I am not perfect. Required by command of the Lord.

[BIBLEDRB]Matthew 5:48[/BIBLEDRB]

And the third fact:
[BIBLEDRB]Col 1:24[/BIBLEDRB]
But you can be. If it were not possible God would not have made it a command.
If Christ paid the price in full, why are we not in the Garden of Eden? If I were there, I promise I would never touch that tree.
What can I do to erase my banishment from the Garden of Eden? I want to go there.
We will be part of the new heaven and the new earth–far superior to the Garden of Eden. Eden was never meant to be our eternal home. God always had better plans for us than that. Eden was a testing ground to see if man would obey or if he would fail and have to be redeemed. We know what happened.

St. Paul tells us quite clearly:
2Cor.4[16] So we do not lose heart. Though our outer nature is wasting away, our inner nature is being renewed every day. Through the Sacraments and in prayer and good works
[17] For this slight momentary affliction is preparing for us an eternal weight of glory beyond all comparison,
[18] because we look not to the things that are seen but to the things that are unseen; for the things that are seen are transient, but the things that are unseen are eternal.

Our present bodies are corrupted and corruptable, but we will be given new incorrupt bodies at the general resurrection. Then we will enjoy better than Eden, we will enjoy complete union with he who is love, joy, peace, abundance, wisdom, beauty… Our present sufferings are nothing compared with that, even the suffering that comes from not being able, in our own power, to become holy. But holiness is obtainable–we have to cooperate with God’s grace to achieve it because on our own we cannot.
 
But you can be. If it were not possible God would not have made it a command.
I’m not there yet. And it frustrates me that I can’t make progress. I feel like I’ve been walking and then hit a brick wall and can’t make any further progress.
We will be part of the new heaven and the new earth–far superior to the Garden of Eden. Eden was never meant to be our eternal home.
It was meant to be a temporary home, and that’s why I need to be there. I have to figure out somehow to survive until I die.
Our present sufferings are nothing compared with that, even the suffering that comes from not being able, in our own power, to become holy.
I know this.

But I have to survive somehow until then. Can’t survive without an ability to earn a living.
 
I’m not there yet. And it frustrates me that I can’t make progress. I feel like I’ve been walking and then hit a brick wall and can’t make any further progress.
What is your prayer life like? Do you feed your soul with good spiritual reading? Do you attend Mass as prescribed by the Church? If you are doing all these thing and are still going through a “dark night of the soul” it means God is prompting you to seek him in deeper ways than you have before. It might help to go to adoration and just sit with Jesus and tell him your heart.
It was meant to be a temporary home, and that’s why I need to be there. I have to figure out somehow to survive until I die.
Survive in what way? I’m confused. 🙂
But I have to survive somehow until then. Can’t survive without an ability to earn a living.
Unless you are doing something immoral to earn a living, holding down a job should in no way impede your spiritual life. Our work is also prayer, if we do it for love of God and neighbor. Saying prayers isn’t the only way to grow in holiness. How we conduct our daily lives matters and “counts” as well. It’s why Jesus told us to “take up your cross daily and follow me.”

I’m afraid I don’t understand what you mean about surviving until you die. If you are experiencing depression please seek the help of a professional health care provider. Sometimes these things come from physical disorders we don’t even know we have. I am keeping you in my prayers. :crossrc:
 
What is your prayer life like? Do you feed your soul with good spiritual reading? Do you attend Mass as prescribed by the Church? If you are doing all these thing and are still going through a “dark night of the soul” it means God is prompting you to seek him in deeper ways than you have before. It might help to go to adoration and just sit with Jesus and tell him your heart.
My prayer life is a monologue. I wish it were a conversation. For ACTS prayer style, I do ACT and tend to leave off the S a lot. I read spiritual reading from time to time. I attend mass every week and every holy day of obligation, and sometimes go on some daily masses. I’m doing the first Saturdays and then will switch to first fridays.

I can’t go to adoration where I live. I’m in a desert of CINO churches. The nearest parish with perpetual Eucharistic adoration is 45 minutes away. I tried to go. I had difficulty getting there because many of the roads are flooded so I wound driving an hour trying to figure out a way around the flooding. I got there (first timer there) and could not find it, and I had to ask. So I go to the location and the door is locked (code needed) - and I tried to open other doors. I didn’t see inside and inadvertently knocked on a class in session. A little girl opened the door and the teacher asked what I was looking for. I told her what, and she told me to go through the class in session and go out that door.

God throws all kinds of things at me to make it difficult to go to him.
Survive in what way? I’m confused. 🙂
I can’t keep a job.

I’m not a bum. I’m not a druggie. I’m not a criminal. I’m not lazy. I just can’t keep a job. I got laid off AGAIN. 12 years of being unable to hold down a job. I spend more time on unemployment in the last 4 years than I did working. Exhausted extended unemployment and will never get that again.

This is what I mean by surviving until I die. I even went back to school and got a third college degree and two certifications. This doesn’t help.

I am utterly useless to employers.
 
The purpose of life…

is…

THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD.

The Glory of God was made manifest through creation. We can see the glory of God when he behold His creation…

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The GREATER GLORY OF GOD is made manifest through the redemption of man, through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

I believe this is the purpose of life.

http://www.bible-people.info/2.1.Mary_Nazareth_PassionoftheCross.jpg

http://www.turnbacktogod.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Jesus-Resurrection-Pictures-06.jpg
This is amazing. Thank you.
 
Fact: I am not perfect. Required by command of the Lord.
I am confused. How was your perfection or lack thereof–required by a command of the Lord?

Can you explain this thinking a little. It would seem to me that we were created with free will. Adam & Eve fell and from this we inherit original sin which is washed away at baptism. We do however retain a weakness (someone correct me if I have stated this incorrectly). This makes it hard for us to be perfect. But God did not command this–quite the opposite I would say. Just how do you think the Lord commanded that we are not perfect?

As I see it my lack of perfection has nothing to do with a command of the Lord but rather has to do with my failure to love God with all my heart, soul and mind; with my tendency to love myself --my comfort and pleasure over-- God; with my failure to follow the commands of the Lord. It’s all on me – and that’s the scary part.

Peace of Christ,
Mark
 
I can’t keep a job.

I’m not a bum. I’m not a druggie. I’m not a criminal. I’m not lazy. I just can’t keep a job. I got laid off AGAIN. 12 years of being unable to hold down a job. I spend more time on unemployment in the last 4 years than I did working. Exhausted extended unemployment and will never get that again.

This is what I mean by surviving until I die. I even went back to school and got a third college degree and two certifications. This doesn’t help.

I am utterly useless to employers.
Don’t know what to say about this other than I will add you and your job search to my prayers and I hope others here will also. It’s a little late now but you might look into taking the H&R Block class - in order to prepare taxes. If you have three college degrees I assume you can do the work. It is not too expensive and it might help you get your foot in the door of a CPA firm during tax season–which might then turn into offseason work, I know two people who have just recently done this. One of them has recently passed the CPA exam also. And while things may be a normal pace now–things will ramp up again in August, September and October–as business and individual returns that have been extended need to be completed.

Peace of Christ,
Mark
 
I am confused. How was your perfection or lack thereof–required by a command of the Lord?
[BIBLEDRB]Matthew 5:48[/BIBLEDRB]

Clear as day to me.
Don’t know what to say about this other than I will add you and your job search to my prayers and I hope others here will also.
Thanks!
It’s a little late now but you might look into taking the H&R Block class - in order to prepare taxes.
Tax season is over. And they pay $10/hour for tax preparers. Ridiculous, eh? I wouldn’t need to take the course anyway, I have a CPA too.
 
I believe that the meaning of life is: Intimacy with God.

I need Bible ideas!

Any help?
What is the singular purpose in life? But isn’t there more than one purpose?

Just a redirect.​

“And on that day will justice triumph, on that day will all be free: free from want, free from fear,…free to live.” (hymn)
 
Tax season is over. And they pay $10/hour for tax preparers. Ridiculous, eh? I wouldn’t need to take the course anyway, I have a CPA too.
When my dh was out of a permanent job for several years, he thought about being a H&RB tax consultant, but it paid too low. He did get a contract job with them working on their computers. Thanks be to God, though he now has a permanent job in his field that pays what he deserves.

A couple of suggestions: Take contract jobs, even if it’s only for a couple of weeks at a time. And you may want to go to a job counselor to see what he might suggest you do to help you maintain a permanent job. I wish you all the best. You have my prayers.
 
When my dh was out of a permanent job for several years, he thought about being a H&RB tax consultant, but it paid too low. He did get a contract job with them working on their computers. Thanks be to God, though he now has a permanent job in his field that pays what he deserves.

A couple of suggestions: Take contract jobs, even if it’s only for a couple of weeks at a time. And you may want to go to a job counselor to see what he might suggest you do to help you maintain a permanent job. I wish you all the best. You have my prayers.
O.K. the pay may be low at H & R Block – but is it better to make low pay or no pay? Especially if you have exhausted all of your unemployment benefits? I thought it was about trying to survive. My point was that it was gaining a skill that is marketable and can be built upon-a way to get your foot in the door or possibly hang out a shingle. Our most recent hire - got their initail training at H & R Block and one of the other professionals who shares office space with us also just hired someone who got their training there also–both have worked out well better than the last few CPA’s we hired. We have had a hard time finding good CPA’s to hire–even through the recession. These people got their foot in the door because they had some tax training–that was my point.

Peace of Christ,
Mark
 
O.K. the pay may be low at H & R Block – but is it better to make low pay or no pay? Especially if you have exhausted all of your unemployment benefits? I thought it was about trying to survive. My point was that it was gaining a skill that is marketable and can be built upon-a way to get your foot in the door or possibly hang out a shingle. Our most recent hire - got their initail training at H & R Block and one of the other professionals who shares office space with us also just hired someone who got their training there also–both have worked out well better than the last few CPA’s we hired. We have had a hard time finding good CPA’s to hire–even through the recession. These people got their foot in the door because they had some tax training–that was my point.

Peace of Christ,
Mark
I’m truly sorry if I offended you, but I wasn’t ragging on H&RB. As I said, my dh did work for them, but as a computer consultant. I know a gal who supplements the family income every tax season by being one of their tax preparers. I agree that any and every opportunity that comes along should be taken no matter how small–to earn money and to get experience. 🙂 My dh took many contract jobs while trying to find solid full time employment. I’m all for it. 👍
 
I’m truly sorry if I offended you, but I wasn’t ragging on H&RB. As I said, my dh did work for them, but as a computer consultant. I know a gal who supplements the family income every tax season by being one of their tax preparers. I agree that any and every opportunity that comes along should be taken no matter how small–to earn money and to get experience. 🙂 My dh took many contract jobs while trying to find solid full time employment. I’m all for it. 👍
It is I who should be sorry if I sounded (or is it read as if I was) offened. If anything I felt as if the point of my post was missed–that was all. I was just trying to clarify it.

Peace of Christ,
Mark
 
O.K. the pay may be low at H & R Block – but is it better to make low pay or no pay? Especially if you have exhausted all of your unemployment benefits?
Yeah, then it is worth it when unemployment has run out. But the rest of the year, there are no contract jobs with them.
 
Yeah, then it is worth it when unemployment has run out. But the rest of the year, there are no contract jobs with them.
Yes, but they aren’t the only company that takes contract workers. Have you put your name in at employment agencies? Maybe if you started a thread in the Faith and Finances forum you would get more responses from people who have some good ideas for you.
 
Yes, but they aren’t the only company that takes contract workers. Have you put your name in at employment agencies? Maybe if you started a thread in the Faith and Finances forum you would get more responses from people who have some good ideas for you.
I’m an IT contractor. I’ve got my resume on twenty job boards and apply 50-100 jobs a week. I even have resumes on government job boards.
 
I’m an IT contractor. I’ve got my resume on twenty job boards and apply 50-100 jobs a week. I even have resumes on government job boards.
My dh the same when he was looking for a permanent job. I know how hard it is. It took years before he got in at a good place. Keep on praying and trying. I will pray too. :crossrc:
 
I’m an IT contractor. I’ve got my resume on twenty job boards and apply 50-100 jobs a week. I even have resumes on government job boards.
Try going to places that have outsourced their IT to India and have terrible results. I can think of a few fortune 500’s that did just that. Get yourself in their business as a customer, and when you see the problem in front of you save that receipt and call that 800 number. Tell them what did not go smoothly and how it could have gone smoothly.

A company in Chicago hired a guy because he did just that not that long ago.
 
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