Putin ‘Probably Approved’ Litvinenko Poisoning, British Inquiry Says

[Exiled_Child]

These “official inquiries” where one country accuses another of heinous crimes while completely whitewashing their own shouldn’t be taken too seriously, in my opinion. Politics is a dirty game in general, but what goes on in these intelligence circles is positively demonic. I’m just skeptical of the non-stop Western attacks on Russia, because it’s clear that it’s part of an agenda which all the Western nations have agreed upon.

 

[Path_Finder]

These “official inquiries” where one country accuses another of heinous crimes while completely whitewashing their own shouldn’t be taken too seriously, in my opinion. Politics is a dirty game in general, but what goes on in these intelligence circles is positively demonic. I’m just skeptical of the non-stop Western attacks on Russia, because it’s clear that it’s part of an agenda which all the Western nations have agreed upon.

And so Russia does not extradite these two men who were with Litvenenko. No, if you are killing in another country, it should be called out. I note your singular example from over 10 years ago happened on British soil. Perhaps one shouldn’t accuse the British of whitewashing.

I guess, we can hear about the CIA conducting a few tests of waterboarding on people who did very bad things and being critical.

But assassinate outside of Russia? Oh, off-limits, talking about whitewashing!

And it’s no part of an agenda, the report was kept quiet for a long time. Oh, the paranoia, for a country that has invaded others.

 

[Exiled_Child]

And so Russia does not extradite these two men who were with Litvenenko. No, if you are killing in another country, it should be called out. I note your singular example from over 10 years ago happened on British soil. Perhaps one shouldn’t accuse the British of whitewashing.

David Kelly is a particularly well known example, is all. Putin’s not an idiot; if he was going to assassinate a prominent and outspoken critic, there’s not one chance in a million he would go about it this way. This was a very, very clumsy attempt at pinning a political murder on a political enemy. It’s akin to a murderer breaking into someone’s home in broad daylight while not wearing gloves, waving at all the security cameras and closed circuit tvs, and then strolling to police headquarters and signing a full confession. It’s a case where we might not be certain about who did commit the crime, but we can say categorically who didn’t.

 

[Path_Finder]

David Kelly is a particularly well known example, is all. Putin’s not an idiot; if he was going to assassinate a prominent and outspoken critic, there’s not one chance in a million he would go about it this way. This was a very, very clumsy attempt at pinning a political murder on a political enemy. It’s akin to a murderer breaking into someone’s home in broad daylight while not wearing gloves, waving at all the security cameras and closed circuit tvs, and then strolling to police headquarters and signing a full confession. It’s a case where we might not be certain about who did commit the crime, but we can say categorically who didn’t.

Sorry, there is only one place this Polonium 210 could have come from, at some plant in Russia with the highest authorization and that is what the case is largely based on.

Maybe they thought they wouldn’t get caught but they were and have issued a verdict.

The two men who saw Litvenenko could have been extradited but were not.

Bottom line, this Polonium 101 could have only come from Russia it seems the investigators conclude.

So, we can be critical of the CIA but now, it’s all politically motivated, well I trust the UK, they have not killed scores of civilians in the Syria war which monitors claim other powers have.

 

[Exiled_Child]

Sorry, there is only one place this Polonium 210 could have come from, at some plant in Russia with the highest authorization and that is what the case is largely based on.

Maybe they thought they wouldn’t get caught but they were and have issued a verdict.

The two men who saw Litvenenko could have been extradited but were not.

Bottom line, this Polonium 101 could have only come from Russia it seems the investigators conclude.

So, we can be critical of the CIA but now, it’s all politically motivated, well I trust the UK, they have not killed scores of civilians in the Syria war which monitors claim other powers have.

Actually, that’s absolutely not the only place the Polonium could have come from. It could also have come from Litvenenko’s gangster employer’s other home country. And I don’t mean Russia. Not at all unlikely, considering the traces of Polonium found all over the jet on which Litvenenko rode when he travelled to his employer’s nation. But, of course, this is the subject that dare not speak it’s name.

But, a philosophical question: can facts be racist?

 

[Path_Finder]

Actually, that’s absolutely not the only place the Polonium could have come from. It could also have come from Litvenenko’s gangster employer’s other home country. And I don’t mean Russia. Not at all unlikely, considering the traces of Polonium found all over the jet on which Litvenenko rode when he travelled to his employer’s nation. But, of course, this is the subject that dare not speak it’s name.

But, a philosophical question: can facts be racist?

Where did the radioactivity come from on a jet?

Radioactive contamination was detected on a plane used by two men suspected of poisoning former Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko, an inquiry has been told.
bbc.com/news/uk-31425415

I had a link, now let’s see if others can provide info.

And racism? Well, I’m going to pass with flying colors because I have Slavic heritage and I will speak up for those who are non-Slavic condoning violent acts and crimes in place like Ukraine.

If anything, I find what can be racist are those who justify the violation of a sovereign country while not having any real skin the game.

But really, anytime someone has a disagreement, pulling out the race card?

 

[pepipop]

David Kelly is a particularly well known example, is all. Putin’s not an idiot; if he was going to assassinate a prominent and outspoken critic, there’s not one chance in a million he would go about it this way. This was a very, very clumsy attempt at pinning a political murder on a political enemy. It’s akin to a murderer breaking into someone’s home in broad daylight while not wearing gloves, waving at all the security cameras and closed circuit tvs, and then strolling to police headquarters and signing a full confession. It’s a case where we might not be certain about who did commit the crime, but we can say categorically who didn’t.

 

[Path_Finder]

How surprising, said nobody.

Putin is a terrible and terrifying nightmare of a human who regards international law as quaint suggestions that don’t apply to him.

 

[Path_Finder]

Pope John Paul the 2nd stood up against the Communist Empire, enough of the slaughter behind the Iron Curtain and enough of this stronger nation again, spreading mayhem through out the world.

Oh, thoroughly check what Litvenenko said in the report, some which seems unspeakable here.

Right now, Chechen strongman is openly threatening opposition there, there is no compunction almost a year after the assassination of Boris Nemtsov where Chechens have been arrested.

It is a duty to stand up against such tyranny.

Shooting down airliners and on and on, always some sort of song and dance that it wasn’t done, Bellingcat certainly again, cast suspicion on the Russians.

I’d question racism on those who are not Slavic but stand up for the murder and mayhem of Russia against Slavic people and have said the nastiest things about people asserting their right to freedom.

Let’s remember the propaganda we hear:

Russia Today Told The ‘Untold Story’ Of MH-17 — But Other Kremlin Propaganda Already Debunked The Theory
businessinsider.com/rt-mh-17-propaganda-2014-10

Putin likewise, “would not be an idiot” to allow Rebels to use missiles to shoot down airliners but there is little credible evidence to the contrary except more shameful acts to deny what happened.

thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/01/21/alexander-litvinenko-was-killed-killed-for-calling-putin-a-pedophile.html

 

[Path_Finder]

At least the Brits don’ t have a long line of the questionable murders in the past 20 years, I don’t stand up for the killing of Irish people having a Slavic background as well and as if some people’s lives are nothing!

 

[Path_Finder]

2 wrongs don’t make a right.

It does not mean someone can go and commit a murder somewhere and then say, there were murders years ago.

No one is playing a card, it was mentioned in this thread and not by me. I think, seeing how this is a go to tactic, it merited a response.

No one said “Slavic groups are homogenous”, however what is missing from this analysis is that indeed, Slavic languages, every single one or most of them are very much connected. So, indeed, the ethnic groups are connected.

Again, this was a crime committed on British soil and British authorities say it is their responsibility to investigate it.

 

[Path_Finder]

I don’t know what the point here is? Is one saying crimes such as murder should not be investigated inside the UK? I heartily disagree with this.

 

[exnihilo]

These “official inquiries” where one country accuses another of heinous crimes while completely whitewashing their own shouldn’t be taken too seriously, in my opinion. Politics is a dirty game in general, but what goes on in these intelligence circles is positively demonic. I’m just skeptical of the non-stop Western attacks on Russia, because it’s clear that it’s part of an agenda which all the Western nations have agreed upon.

 

[Path_Finder]

Really? So one is saying if one goes to Atlanta and kills people but if the perpetrators are foreigners, the crime should not be investigated? I heartily disagree with this.

 

[Path_Finder]

Likewise, these people are linked by language but they are linked in other ways, culture and so on. Many people would say Russians and Ukrainians are very much the same kinds of people but were separated by invasions that conquered the Ukraine by the Poles or Mongols.

Perhaps a better example would be to point out how there are links in the countries that speak the Latin languages, especially with Spain and Italy.

Ethiopians and Eritreans again, are very similar and speak the same language.

 

[Path_Finder]

I had just assumed Putin gave the order.

 

[exnihilo]

Really? So one is saying if one goes to Atlanta and kills people but if the perpetrators are foreigners, the crime should not be investigated? I heartily disagree with this.

Crime should be investigated. I don’t have great confidence in the Western nation states or really nation states in general. Since they are the institutions doing the investigation I don’t have great confidence in the findings. When the matter is political, involves Russia, involves spies or any combination of those factors my confidence is even lower.

I don’t know if Putin ordered a man killed in the UK. I do know Obama has a kill list and uses it. I’m more worried about my local dictator.

 

[Path_Finder]

Litvenenko met with 2 Russian agents that day, those agents are on close circuit tv, the link is listed where traces of polonium were found on the jet they rode on and the tea they made; but somehow, people want to make this political? This sounds more like obstruction of justice. All of the evidence points to these 2 Russians for whom extradition has been requested of doing this act.

Let’s not forget, this making it political works both ways, it can also be used as an excuse to negate the findings of this commission.

 

[pepipop]

At least the Brits don’ t have a long line of the questionable murders in the past 20 years, I don’t stand up for the killing of Irish people having a Slavic background as well and as if some people’s lives are nothing!

Totally off. The smiley face was in relation to Exiled Child’s description and comparison of a robber entering a house, and the ‘probable’ allegations against Putin. In a court of law, the inquiry would lead to a non-verdict, as there is no evidence.

 

[Path_Finder]

Totally off. The smiley face was in relation to Exiled Child’s description and comparison of a robber entering a house, and the ‘probable’ allegations against Putin. In a court of law, the inquiry would lead to a non-verdict, as there is no evidence.

No evidence??? One really really knows this case well??

Perhaps this was the best defence was to accuse the British government of something sinister.

litvinenkoinquiry.org/

litvinenkoinquiry.org/evidence

They have all kinds of evidence, film of the two Russians on Close Circuit TV, the tea pot, maybe fingerprints. Eyewitness accounts. A trail of polonium radiation.

Furthermore, I see Litvenenko’s wife all over the news; per whatever his brother said, his wife’s word must mean something as well.