Putting Catholic faith into action on climate change

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No wonder you call yourself “Ender”…😉
I’m sure Ender would prefer to have the last word…and obviously nearing 1000 posts on this thread we have walked down many paths, found ways that we can agree, and areas where we will continue to disagree.

I just want to add the link - one more time - to the Catholic Coalition on Climate Change - catholicsandclimatechange.org/

“This kind of serious discussion … is not intended to settle these questions, but rather to lift them up and focus them so we can make wise and necessary choices.”
—Bishop Thomas Wenski, Diocese of Orlando

Partners in this coalition:

U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops
* Social Development and World Peace/Environmental Justice Program
* Catholic Campaign for Human Development
* Migration and Refugee Services of the USCCB
National Religious Partnership for the Environment
Other Partnering Organizations
* Catholic Relief Services
* National Council of Catholic Women
* Catholic Health Association of the United States
* Catholic Charities USA
* National Catholic Rural Life Conference
* Association of Catholic Colleges and Universities
* Franciscan Action Network
* Carmelite NGO
* Leadership Conference of Women Religious
* Conference of Major Superiors of Men

catholicclimatecovenant.org/
Prudence, Poverty and the Common Good
Catholic teaching on climate change embraces the principles of prudence, poverty and the common good. These three principles form the foundation of our work.
1. Prudence
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“Prudence is intelligence applied to our actions …a thoughtful, deliberate, and reasoned basis for taking or avoiding action to achieve a moral good.” — U.S. Bishops*
The Coalition accepts overwhelming scientific consensus about climate change. There is nearly unanimous agreement that human actions are creating a warming planet. As stewards of all Creation, we must identify wise, careful actions that will reverse this climate change and avoid its potentially dangerous impact on all life-especially human life.
State and local Catholic leaders can play a central role in bringing together scientists, theologians, business and labor leaders, government officials, human service providers and other stakeholders to shape a wise and careful approach consistent with our principles. With such leadership, the Catholic community will answer God’s call to be faithful stewards.
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2. Poverty**
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“… any successful strategy must also reflect the genuine participation and concerns of those most affected and least able to bear the burdens …[this] is a moral and political necessity …” — U.S. Bishops*
Natural disasters take the greatest toll on poor people. Inadequate transportation, lack of insurance, poor housing and little if any cash reserves put them on the edge of the precipice. To survive severe storms, prolonged droughts, extended heat waves and other climate-related events, these vulnerable sisters and brothers must receive assistance–both public and private.
The Coalition seeks to find constructive ways to approach climate change from the bottom up. We strive to bring the voice of the poor to the public debate about climate change and ensure that resources are available to the most vulnerable.
3. The Common Good
“Responses to global climate change should reflect our interdependence and common responsibility for the future of our planet. Individual nations must measure their own self-interest against the greater common good and contribute equitably to global solutions.” — U.S. Bishops
Climate change provides an opportunity to act with courage and creativity as individuals, people of faith, and as a nation. As a wealthy nation and the top contributor to greenhouse gases, we in the United States must help to shape responses that serve not only our own interests but those the of the entire human family. The Coalition assists the Catholic community in linking personal stewardship and care for Creation with our moral responsibilities to practice solidarity.
So my friends, may we do as Bishop Wenski call us to…
“This kind of serious discussion … is not intended to settle these questions, but rather to lift them up and focus them so we can make wise and necessary choices.”
 
I just finished reading an article in The national Catholic Register(Sept. 9,2009 issue titled Global Warming: Is it for Real?(By Wayne Laugesen.) He mentions Cardinal Pell questioning the results of scientists who “discard most weather history and reliable scientific data”, in order to push the climate warming theory. Laugeson also mentions Kiminori Itoh, an environmental physical chemist ,
joining 650 scientists questioning the global warming theory in 2008.

Please bear with me a bit longer. I just want to mention a book I read that has 19,200 scientists listed in the back of the book stating that they do not buy the man-made global/climate change hoax.

God Bless All,😉

Sandra aka" Sunshine" in Salem,OR
 
I just finished reading an article in The national Catholic Register(Sept. 9,2009 issue titled Global Warming: Is it for Real?(By Wayne Laugesen.) He mentions Cardinal Pell questioning the results of scientists who “discard most weather history and reliable scientific data”, in order to push the climate warming theory. Laugeson also mentions Kiminori Itoh, an environmental physical chemist ,
joining 650 scientists questioning the global warming theory in 2008.

Please bear with me a bit longer. I just want to mention a book I read that has 19,200 scientists listed in the back of the book stating that they do not buy the man-made global/climate change hoax.

God Bless All,😉

Sandra aka" Sunshine" in Salem,OR
Thanks Sandra - I think this group has been discussed - and the science has also been discussed a great deal on this thread - there are some who disagree with the findings and others who agree - I find the credibility of those who agree to be more so I, as the USCCB has done - support efforts to address the issue through personal changes.

Have you visited the web site catholicsandclimatechange.org/ ? Or catholicclimatecovenant.org/ let me know what you think after you’ve had a chance to read through that material or watch the video… Blessings,
 
I just finished reading an article in The national Catholic Register(Sept. 9,2009 issue titled Global Warming: Is it for Real?(By Wayne Laugesen.) He mentions Cardinal Pell questioning the results of scientists who “discard most weather history and reliable scientific data”, in order to push the climate warming theory. Laugeson also mentions Kiminori Itoh, an environmental physical chemist, joining 650 scientists questioning the global warming theory in 2008.
It is important to distinguish the significance of comments from religious leaders such as Pell from those of scientists such as Itoh. Pell’s comments are interesting but carry no special weight because he is not a scientist and the issue of global warming is a purely scientific question. Itoh’s comments, however, are significant not just because he is a scientist in a field relevant to the question but also because he was an IPCC reviewer and was quite intimately involved with their work. In this case Pell’s comments are not entirely superfluous as he is not commenting on the science involved but of the politicization of the issue.

People like to quote comments from religious individuals and organizations because it implies that their view is politically untainted and therefore true when in fact neither, especially the latter, is warranted. If you’re not quoting scientists (or at least scientific arguments) then you are simply quoting someone’s personal opinion and an opinion on a scientific question (even of a Cardinal) carries no more weight than yours or mine.

Ender
 
It is important to distinguish the significance of comments from religious leaders such as Pell from those of scientists such as Itoh. Pell’s comments are interesting but carry no special weight because he is not a scientist and the issue of global warming is a purely scientific question. Itoh’s comments, however, are significant not just because he is a scientist in a field relevant to the question but also because he was an IPCC reviewer and was quite intimately involved with their work. In this case Pell’s comments are not entirely superfluous as he is not commenting on the science involved but of the politicization of the issue.

People like to quote comments from religious individuals and organizations because it implies that their view is politically untainted and therefore true when in fact neither, especially the latter, is warranted. If you’re not quoting scientists (or at least scientific arguments) then you are simply quoting someone’s personal opinion and an opinion on a scientific question (even of a Cardinal) carries no more weight than yours or mine.

Ender
I, like many other continue to be grateful to the leadership of the Church on this and all issues of our time. It is always important to look to those in science to give us (name removed by moderator)ut on the scientific issues facing our time - on this very long thread I and others have posted those - what I consider reliable sources. - But we can and should turn to the Church for the way in which we should respond…
  1. Prudence
  2. Poverty
  3. The Common Good
Obviously one can ALWAYS find anything to support a position on the net - and it does take some time to filter through all the individual blogs…

God Bless,
 
:gopray: Oh Lord, please let this thread die.

Ender
Please feel free not to contribute.

Catholic Coalition on Climate Change - catholicsandclimatechange.org/

“This kind of serious discussion … is not intended to settle these questions, but rather to lift them up and focus them so we can make wise and necessary choices.”
—Bishop Thomas Wenski, Diocese of Orlando
 
:gopray: Oh Lord, please let this thread die.

Ender
😃 Well, in between the debates, it seems to be a lengthy commercial for the Catholic Coalition on Climate Change, a quasi political group. But all things must come to end sometime.
 
😃 Well, in between the debates, it seems to be a lengthy commercial for the Catholic Coalition on Climate Change, a quasi political group. But all things must come to end sometime.
quasi political group? I must have missed that?

I am very happy to have the opportunity to share information with the members of CAF about the Catholic Coalition on Climate Change - and the efforts to address climate change ***because as people of faith I (and many, many others) believe it is our responsibility.

Blessings!
 
But Ender got a little soft toward the end. He could have just stomped on the Queen! But developed an excess of empathy. . .
Oh JimG - one thing in common with your reference to “Eders Game” and a discussion about climate change - it is about the future! 😉
 
INTERVENTION BY THE HOLY SEE
AT THE "HIGH-LEVEL EVENT ON CLIMATE CHANGE
ENTITLED “THE FUTURE IS IN OUR HANDS:
ADDRESSING THE LEADERSHIP CHALLENGE OF CLIMATE CHANGE”

ADDRESS OF MSGR. PIETRO PAROLIN

New York
Monday, 24 September 2007

Mr. Chairman,

Thank you for giving me the opportunity to express some considerations of the Holy See in light of what we have heard today from the preceding distinguished speakers.

Climate change is a serious concern and an inescapable responsibility for scientists and other experts, political and governmental leaders, local administrators and international organizations, as well as every sector of human society and each human person. My delegation wishes to stress the underlying moral imperative that all, without exception, have a grave responsibility to protect the environment.

Beyond the various reactions to and interpretations of the reports of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), the best scientific assessments available have established a link between human activity and climate change. However, the results of these scientific assessments, and the remaining uncertainties, should neither be exaggerated nor minimized in the name of politics, ideologies or self-interest. Rather they now need to be studied closely in order to give a sound basis for raising awareness and making effective policy decisions.

In recent times, it has been unsettling to note how some commentators have said that we should actually exploit our world to the full, with little or no heed to the consequences, using a world view supposedly based on faith. We strongly believe that this is a fundamentally reckless approach. At the other extreme, there are those who hold up the earth as the only good, and would characterize humanity as an irredeemable threat to the earth, whose population and activity need to be controlled by various drastic means. We strongly believe that such assertions would place human beings and their needs at the service of an inhuman ecology. I have highlighted these two extreme positions to make my point, but similar, though less extreme attitudes, would also clearly impede any sound global attempts to promote mitigation, adaptation, resilience and the safeguarding of our common future.

Mr. Chairman,

Since no country alone can solve the problems related to our common environment, we need to overcome self-interest through collective action. On the part of the international community, this presupposes the adoption of a coordinated, effective and prompt international political strategy capable of responding to such a complex question. It would identify ways and means of mitigation and adaptation which are economically accessible to most, enhance sustainable development and foster a healthy environment. The economic aspect of such ways and means should be seriously taken into account, considering that poor nations and sectors of society are particularly vulnerable to the adverse consequences of climate change, due to lesser resources and capacity to mitigate their effects and adapt to altered surroundings.

It is foreseeable that programmes of mitigation and adaptation would meet a series of barriers and obstacles, not so much of a technological nature, but more so of a social nature, such as consumer behaviour and preferences, and of a political nature, like government policies. We must look at education, especially among the young, to change inbred, selfish attitudes towards consumption and exploitation of natural resources. Likewise, government policies giving economic incentives and financial breaks for more environmentally friendly technologies will give the private sector the positive signal they need to programme their product development in such direction. For instance, present-day research into energy mixes and improving energy efficiency would be made more attractive if accompanied by public funding and other financial incentives.

Mr. Chairman,

We often hear in the halls of the United Nations of “the responsibility to protect”. The Holy See believes that applies also in the context of climate change. States have a shared “responsibility to protect” the world’s climate through mitigation/adaptation, and above all a shared “responsibility to protect” our planet and ensure that present and future generations be able to live in a healthy and safe environment.

The pace of achieving and codifying a new international consensus on climate change is not always matched by an equally expeditious and effective pace of implementation of such agreements. States are free to adopt international conventions and treaties, but unless our words are matched with effective action and accountability, we would do little to avert a bleak future and may find ourselves gathering again not too long from now to lament another collective failure. We sincerely hope that States will seize the opportunity that will be presented to them shortly at the next Conference on the Framework Convention on Climate Change in Bali.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
 
INTERVENTION BY THE HOLY SEE
AT THE "HIGH-LEVEL EVENT ON CLIMATE CHANGE
ENTITLED “THE FUTURE IS IN OUR HANDS:
ADDRESSING THE LEADERSHIP CHALLENGE OF CLIMATE CHANGE”

ADDRESS OF MSGR. PIETRO PAROLIN

New York
Monday, 24 September 2007

Mr. Chairman,

Thank you for giving me the opportunity to express some considerations of the Holy See in light of what we have heard today from the preceding distinguished speakers.

Climate change is a serious concern and an inescapable responsibility for scientists and other experts, political and governmental leaders, local administrators and international organizations, as well as every sector of human society and each human person. My delegation wishes to stress the underlying moral imperative that all, without exception, have a grave responsibility to protect the environment.

Beyond the various reactions to and interpretations of the reports of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), the best scientific assessments available have established a link between human activity and climate change. However, the results of these scientific assessments, and the remaining uncertainties, should neither be exaggerated nor minimized in the name of politics, ideologies or self-interest. Rather they now need to be studied closely in order to give a sound basis for raising awareness and making effective policy decisions.

In recent times, it has been unsettling to note how some commentators have said that we should actually exploit our world to the full, with little or no heed to the consequences, using a world view supposedly based on faith. We strongly believe that this is a fundamentally reckless approach. At the other extreme, there are those who hold up the earth as the only good, and would characterize humanity as an irredeemable threat to the earth, whose population and activity need to be controlled by various drastic means. We strongly believe that such assertions would place human beings and their needs at the service of an inhuman ecology. I have highlighted these two extreme positions to make my point, but similar, though less extreme attitudes, would also clearly impede any sound global attempts to promote mitigation, adaptation, resilience and the safeguarding of our common future.

Mr. Chairman,

Since no country alone can solve the problems related to our common environment, we need to overcome self-interest through collective action. On the part of the international community, this presupposes the adoption of a coordinated, effective and prompt international political strategy capable of responding to such a complex question. It would identify ways and means of mitigation and adaptation which are economically accessible to most, enhance sustainable development and foster a healthy environment. The economic aspect of such ways and means should be seriously taken into account, considering that poor nations and sectors of society are particularly vulnerable to the adverse consequences of climate change, due to lesser resources and capacity to mitigate their effects and adapt to altered surroundings.

It is foreseeable that programmes of mitigation and adaptation would meet a series of barriers and obstacles, not so much of a technological nature, but more so of a social nature, such as consumer behaviour and preferences, and of a political nature, like government policies. We must look at education, especially among the young, to change inbred, selfish attitudes towards consumption and exploitation of natural resources. Likewise, government policies giving economic incentives and financial breaks for more environmentally friendly technologies will give the private sector the positive signal they need to programme their product development in such direction. For instance, present-day research into energy mixes and improving energy efficiency would be made more attractive if accompanied by public funding and other financial incentives.

Mr. Chairman,

We often hear in the halls of the United Nations of “the responsibility to protect”. The Holy See believes that applies also in the context of climate change. States have a shared “responsibility to protect” the world’s climate through mitigation/adaptation, and above all a shared “responsibility to protect” our planet and ensure that present and future generations be able to live in a healthy and safe environment.

The pace of achieving and codifying a new international consensus on climate change is not always matched by an equally expeditious and effective pace of implementation of such agreements. States are free to adopt international conventions and treaties, but unless our words are matched with effective action and accountability, we would do little to avert a bleak future and may find ourselves gathering again not too long from now to lament another collective failure. We sincerely hope that States will seize the opportunity that will be presented to them shortly at the next Conference on the Framework Convention on Climate Change in Bali.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Thank you for posting this… 👍
 
quasi political group? I must have missed that?

I am very happy to have the opportunity to share information with the members of CAF about the Catholic Coalition on Climate Change - and the efforts to address climate change ***because as people of faith I (and many, many others) believe it is our responsibility.

Blessings!
I still wonder why you think that only your methods, and only your favorite group are the way to “save” the earth.
 
quasi political group? I must have missed that?

I am very happy to have the opportunity to share information with the members of CAF about the Catholic Coalition on Climate Change - and the efforts to address climate change ***because as people of faith I (and many, many others) believe it is our responsibility.

Blessings!
Yeah.

Maybe we should address it the same way the President and Speaker of the House do—by increasing the number of abortions.

Makes as much sense.
 
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