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PRmerger
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Hindus believe there is One God and he created the world?
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PRmerger
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The main reason is because Truth matters.
We could all look aside when an earnest adult declares that he believes that Santa Claus really, truly lives in the North Pole and loves every single child, but the truth is that you really would dismiss this person as a bit :whacky:
Why? Because we all know the truth about this.
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Begbie_123
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I would say SOME Catholics embrace the tatters of Triumphalism but Jesus said of the Lukewarm-those who do not walk their Faith-“I will vomit you from my mouth.”
I would estimate from figures I have seen that 80 per cent of “Catholics” are CINOs,Cafeteria Catholics,Ethnic Catholics or simply claim Catholicity by virtue of birth yet never attend mass nor receive the sacreaments except to get their children “done”.Baptism,First Communion and Confirmation.Please don’t judge us by those Catholics nor the modern day Feeneyites who are sinfully Triumphalistic,instead of evangelizers.
But I reiterate I am a Catholic BECAUSE I HAVE TO BE.I must submit to the Truth of Christ expressed most ably by Catholicism because I recognize it as St Maximilian Kolbe(martyr) did.
I have no option.
As my parish priest told me as a 10 year altar boy-don’t confuse the Church with some of the people in it.
Please consider becoming a Catholic,I love you as Christ loves you and want you to share in the wonder of His Church and Sacraments ,especially the Eucharist.My mother a real fierce Irish Catholic always said converts were the Fire of the Church.Look at how many famous Catholic apologists converted.
The funny thing about Catholicism is that for the faithful,devout and obedient person it is the most demanding and “difficult” way to worship our Lord but if as St. Paul said-we “persevere to the end”,it is worth it.
It’s the hardest Faith to live by but the easiest to die by.
God Bless you Friend.Pray for me and I for you.
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mayogirl25
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Couldn’t say it better. Protestants came about during a time when the Catholic Church was not at it’s best. Liken it to today’s scandals with what is going on. Anyway, protesters broke away and we now have many Protestant faiths. I pray all will come together and come back to the true Faith. Most of them know deep down but just aren’t quite ready to make the jump over. Many Protestant churches have practices very similar to the Catholic Church which are a holdover from when they were still Catholic. However, the Catholic Church is the one true religion and in spite of all it’s fault is still on top and I suspect most Protestants do know it.We are united in Christianity but separated by (not to be critical)heresies.All Protestant Christianity denominated from the Catholic Church and from each other.There is ONE Catholic Church,the Orthodox Church(in schism) and 36,000 plus different Protestant denominations.2
The central part of Catholicism is the True Presence in the Eucharist and only the Catholic and Orthodox Churches(IN SCHISM) have That.
Protestant Christianity possesses some of the Truth but the Catholic Church possesses ALL of it.I’m sorry if this offends you but I must speak the truth,I cannot say that your ecclesial body is equivalent to the Church He created.
At Gethsemene He prayed that we would all be ONE.The Catholic Church did not leave.
The 1500’s were the beginning of the so-called Renaissance-which was typified by rebellion against authority and the seeds were sewn for Modernism,Hersey on a wide scale and other issues which STILL affect us today.
The Eucharist is what REALLY divides us wherein Christ says,“Truly,TRULY,I tell you that this is My Body and this is My Blood and those that do not partake of it shall have no Life within them.”
Hardly metaphoric.
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mayogirl25
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So why not very simply be received into the Catholic Church so you can be one with your partner and do away with all your confusion. You might find that journey would clear your head.
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Della
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Is there anything impeding you two being married in the Church? I feel like we’re missing some vital piece of the puzzle here.
Whatever the problem, take it to the priest so you can iron it out and live as a proper family in the eyes of God. I will pray for you. :console:
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Begbie_123
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How to Convalidate a MarriageIs there anything impeding you two being married in the Church? I feel like we’re missing some vital piece of the puzzle here.
To obtain the Church’s BLESSING of a marriage that was not Catholic can be relatively easy. Here are the basic steps required for a couple to validate their marriage:
- Contact the local parish for an appointment with the pastor or his delegate to discuss the situation and determine what must be done.
- Obtain a new copy of the baptismal record for the Catholic party (or for each person, if both are Roman Catholic). Make that request to the parish where the person was baptized, indicating the name of the individual (as well as the names of the parents), date of birth and approximate date of the Baptism. Since this is a standard procedure for Catholic parishes, the copy should be forthcoming almost immediately.
- If necessary, seek a Church declaration of nullity. (See The Tribunal Process.) A favorable decision is needed before a convalidation can be scheduled.
- Complete the necessary paperwork (marriage investigation, inquiry form or premarital document) with the pastor or his delegate.
- Determine the date, time and most suitable type of service.
- Celebrate the Sacrament of Reconciliation before the convalidation ceremony. Quite often, people who were not married in the Church have not been to Confession for a long time. They may not remember how to confess or may be uneasy because of their long absence from this sacrament.
The form and words are not important for Confession; it is what is in the heart that counts. Two booklets I have written that might clear up any questions or misunderstandings about contemporary developments in the Sacrament of Reconciliation are Why Go to Confession?: Questions and Answers About Sacramental Reconciliationand Meeting the Merciful Christ: How to Go to Confession (St. Anthony Messenger Press).
To reduce any uneasiness about going to Confession, I recommend the following: After entering the confessional and hearing the priest say a short prayer, say, “Father, I haven’t been to Confession in a long time. I was not married in the Church, but we will be having our marriage blessed in the next few days. I am not exactly sure when I confessed the last time and don’t remember very well how to do this. But I am sorry. I want to make a new start. Would you help me?”
No doubt the priest will be delighted to assist and send the forgiven person away with a heart as light as a feather. - Plan a joyful get-together that will follow the liturgical blessing to celebrate the Church’s recognition of the marriage.
americancatholic.org/Mess…4/Feature2.asp
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JamesCaruso
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Since you don’t identify with any particular faith, you are someone who is responding to your conscience more or less alone. Mortal sin is only the term used by Catholics to describe grave offenses against God. Anyone, even an atheist, can commit such grave offenses. It is one’s conscience that makes one feel like they are committing grave offenses. The only problem with conscience alone is that the conscience can be wrongly formed by growing up in a sinful culture. Sometimes our consciences do not alert us to things that are gravely wrong. Just look at all the people who believe that abortion is okay. Their consciences seem to have become inured to this evil. That is why the Catholic Church is so important to me. Because I believe it is infallible in its teaching authority from Christ, I have objective guidelines against which to measure. I have had times when my conscience did not tell me I was thinking wrongly, but thanks to the Church, I discovered my error and was able to correct it. Once I saw the Church’s position, I was able to reexamine my own thinking and came to realize that the Church was right and I was wrong. Being a Catholic I feel is certainly an advantage. I advise you, if you do not believe all that the Catholic Church teaches, look into why the Church teaches what it does and you might be surprised to find that you were wrong, but just didn’t realize it before. Just relying on one’s conscience can mislead us.
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PRmerger
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Almost everything above is incorrect.
Religious truth does not come to us only from revelation. Most of it comes from reason.
To wit: Reason tells us of God’s existence.
Reason tells us that there can only be One God.
Reason tells us sin is harmful.
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Isaiah45_9
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This right here is the biggest example of division.
Each individual person thinking they are the only ones that know and understand what Jesus said and commanded…
Some people really mean well with this, some people do not. On face value the proposal looks enticing and good to eat… sounds familiar?
There is something absent… Communion.
Imagine if people would actually stick with the way of Jesus in the Gospel? Christ never said follow Me alone and without anyone else. He never said go into anarchy and understand individually what I meant. No, He did not. He chose men… imagine that.
Christ chose 12 men to carry out all of His teachings and from the twelve Peter as the rock and the one to feed Jesus’ sheep = His Church.
Luke 10:16 “He who hears you hears me, and he who rejects you rejects me, and he who rejects me rejects him who sent me.”
Matthew 10:40 “He who receives you receives me, and he who receives me receives him who sent me."
John 13:20 "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who receives any one whom I send receives me; and he who receives me receives him who sent me.”
You see, Jesus sends His disciples and with them He founded the Catholic Church. Christ is the head.
The Catholic Church has been obeying Christ’s command since He ordered it:
Matthew 28:16 Now the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain to which Jesus had directed them. 17 And when they saw him they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age.”
Only by the miracle of God and the promises of Christ the Church still stand today and will stand 'till the close of the age… in Christ our Lord, Amen.
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Porknpie
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Not quite. God creates in man an intellect and through the intellect the ability to reason and come to truth through understanding. However, man can also reason in error by forming belief’s that are faulty and man can reason in error, coming to a faulty understanding and truth. God wants all to be united in his Catholic Church but man’s free will allows him to make other choices.
The world is Satan’s. He is the one creating the division, he is the great deceiver. Man has to seek the Truth and follow God’s ways, not the world’s.
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JamesCaruso
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Even our faith in revelation has rational underpinnings. I believe the gospels largely because I find them reasonable. Maybe God does give it to me to accept the divinity of Christ, as he did with Peter, but I find nothing unreasonable in that or in any other teaching of the Roman Catholic Church. It’s when reason denies the spiritual realm that it gets us in trouble and warps our view of life and the meaning and purpose of our earthly existence.
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mlamg
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Almost everything above is incorrect.
Reason cannot be called reason if it is biased by beliefs that are set in stone. None of the links you provided show unbiased reason. Also, the links you provided show the usual lack of understanding about non-Christian religions and spiritual beliefs. LOL, the last link brings up a Google search for “faces of meth.” ROTFL!!
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mlamg
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In your opinion.
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JamesCaruso
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mlamg,
I agree with his statements that “[r]eligious truth does not come to us only from revelation. Most of it comes from reason.” I respect your contrary view. It goes without saying that there will be plenty of disagreement in such a heavily contested area of discussion, but it does represent one popular point of view among proponents of religion. Peace. James
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You are begging the question, mlamg.
Again with the begging.
Could you cite some lack of understanding that was posited in the links?
'zactly. The face of sin is ugly, no?
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Porknpie
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Mlamg,
In Germany during World War Two, Jews were considered an inferior race. Because of this, millions of them by law were exterminated. You can read about it here. Hopefully in your opinion, this was wrong. But why was it wrong?
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vames
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You don’t have to feel lost
What you describe is something that happens everytime when we really MEET people who are raised in or converted to other Christian denominations. Perhaps it happened to your husband as well, since he’s a convert; it happens too with cradle Catholics who live among Protestants or Orthodox and who question their own faith and perhaps find some teachings of the “others” as making more sense (I’m not thinking about a more or less liberal lifestyle, but for ex. about a different doctrines of atonement). Some people try very hard to stick to their old or new denomination and to shed all the other influences; some succeed, others learn to live with their mix of different sets of beliefs, knowing that indeed all Christians pray to the same God and that the essential two commandments of love and the teachings about how to conduct our life are the same for all Christians (Matthew 25, 31-46). People are different by nature; that’s why there are and will always be different cultures, religions, Christian denominations, different charisms and understandings of the same faith.You are surely lucky that your own conscience and intuition has led you to the right Catholic view about contraception, homosexual marriage etc, so you are not separated from your husband by your understanding of life. But if you are afraid that are you committing mortal sin because you are a Protestant, God doesn’t expect anyone to become 100% Catholic all of a sudden, despite of their education and cultural background. Being baptized and raised in a particular Christian denomination is not a sin; blaming yourself, letting others making you feel guilty and fearing hell because you can’t shed your Protestant heritage overnight is the worst way to seek God and to follow Christ’s teachings. There are different paths towards God, we as Christians of various denominations can always learn from each other and every attempted conversion is a (sometimes lengthy) process and an act of free choice, not a definite moment towards which we try to bring ourselves out of fear. Pray for enlightment and trust God.
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ufamtobie
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Loobyloo, Over 2000 years ago, Jesus Christ established only One Church to guide us with a promise that “the gates of hell shall not prevail over it”
Now should we Trust in Our Lord, that the gates of hell shall not prevail over it? If you answer yes we should Trust in Our Lord 's Church He established over two thousand years ago, Then Loobyloo, your search has ended, you have found the Church, and it is the Catholic Church, It was the Holy Spirit who brought you here.
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Begbie_123
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We want to share this wonderful and totally undeserved gift from God with you Loobyloo.I am a RETOURNADO or revert and have refound my True Home in His bosom.You ARE what you eat.
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