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eyesopening said:
Actually I don’t think the Bible claims most of this stuff you are saying it claim.
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Ah I think it is fair to say eyesopening, that we are the best creation made by God. God made man in his image. And that is a fact. Like I said before iam not a troll. Don’t know why you would imagine that for ?
 
RyanBlack said:
The Church has apparently not ruled out the possibility of intelligent extraterrestrial life.

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Some preist in rome made a press statement some weeks ago about extra-terrestrial beings. I just thought it was strange thing to hear because I never heard that before. And to be honest I would say most people would agree with me its a strange thing for a preist to talk about!!
 
catholicsaint said:
Allegra…

How would the alien life in other worlds be equal to us humans since Jesus only died for our sins on earth and not other planets. This speaks volumes in its self. Ok if there is life in other planets they cant not be as intelligent as humans because God gave man the earth so he could rule over everything. So you know its kind of there isn’t it really ? Or maybe iam wrong ? Look at Adam and Eve in the bible it exactly tells everything from there !!
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You’ve lost me. The story of Adam and Eve isn’t exact by anyone’s standard. I don’t think it is likely that there is intelligent life on other planets, but even if there are, that doesn’t mean that they are equal in intellect to us or that they are made in God’s image. It only means that they are created. If they are created, they can only be created by God. Again, I highly doubt the existance of such creatures and I even further doubt that God intends for us to encounter them if they do exist.
 
🤷 Just to throw this out there, but I am never in favor of putting God into a little box. I think the He is much bigger, much greater, and much more capable of anything than we are able to simply comprehend. I am not saying I believe there is intelligent life on other planets—I’m not even going to touch that can of worms. But I am going to offer this to much: how are we to know that Christ hasn’t been crucified more than once? That he has not been sacrificed on different planets? Or, how are we to know that if there were intelligent life that we aren’t meant to evangelize? Or, how are we to know… the list can go on and on and on.

Why trouble yourself with this? Would you deny that if–IF–there were some other life form in the universe, that the same God didn’t create them? Because that would undermine everything the Bible says about creation. Again, I’m not getting into the debate whether they exist or don’t exist. I can’t emphasize that enough. 🙂
 
Allegra said:
You’ve lost me. The story of Adam and Eve isn’t exact by anyone’s standard. I don’t think it is likely that there is intelligent life on other planets, but even if there are, that doesn’t mean that they are equal in intellect to us or that they are made in God’s image. It only means that they are created. If they are created, they can only be created by God. Again, I highly doubt the existance of such creatures and I even further doubt that God intends for us to encounter them if they do exist.
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The story of Adam and Eve is exact by my standard. Inside that story is the real truth of why we are here and what this place we inhabit really means. Earth is the stage. The heavens are infinite space, a backdrop.

“And God created man in His own image: male and female He created them.” This woman was not fashioned out of a rib. This man was not built to resist sin. Those models came later. This initial model was around for a long time before the next model was created and breathed into. That model found its way to the Earth to mingle with version one, in order to comprehend the true nature of sin.

We are made in His image and are His children. Parents don’t waste their time building second families.
 
catholicsaint said:
Sorry if maybe this is wrong place to ask this question. Don’t know were to post in correct section 🤷

I have noticed recently that an Argentian preist has said that it is ok to accept aliens as our extra-terrestrial brothers. And that believing in aliens does not effect our belief in our saviour the Lord Jesus Christ. Now iam very confussed because I allways thought the Lord Jesus Christ died for our sins so we can be saved and Jesus died once for all humanity meaning Human kind as man kind and not aliens from other planets. My question is, why is the Vatacan saying that there could be life on other planets. Like aliens. Is it an official roman Catholic teaching that aliens could exist on different planets and why would they think that ? if the bible says Jesus died for man kind and came to earth as our saviour. It is very clear Jesus died once only for man kind and not did the same in different planets for aliens. My other question is, there something wrong with that preist making these weird statements??

I think it is impossible to accept aliens exist in other planets and that they will visit us one day and believe at the same time what the bible says about us humans being the only creation of God. I would like feed back if anyone would like too please. Does the pope accept that aliens exist ? I think the bible 100 per cent says we as humans male and female are the only creation God made and yeah the animals too. But I think aliens is somewere that catholism shouldn’t go because it is like saying everything is made up and its crazy:shrug:🤷
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Extraterrestrial Life is not impossible, is where the Catholic Church stands I think. Do we have reason to say “I know there’s no life out there.”? No, we can’t “know”, but assuming life does exist on other planets, even intelligent life, soul endowed perhaps, maybe there’s a race out there that never sinned, or if sinned, Jesus may have died for them as well on their planet, BUT that is going to deep in speculation.

All we can say is that life on other planets is not impossible, and I
think until we hear further on the matter, we should leave it at that.
 
In 2009, the Vatican held a conference on extraterrestrial life, more specifically, the Pontifical Academy of Sciences study week on Astrobiology.

Here is an excerpt from the Welcome address given by Cardinal Lajolo:
Because it [the field of astrobiology] means often proceeding on the basis of scarce evidence and formulating hypothesis requiring strict verification, which in turn, can be diversely configured. It means resorting to results of research based on extreme aspects of possibility of life on earth, and to study how to verify its presence on other planets or exoplanets. It means – at its limit - studying if and how one could verify the existence of extraterrestrial forms of intelligence and how to enter in contact with them. This is a task that demands scientific integrity, not to be confused with science fiction.
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Read more here: [vaticanstate.va/content/vaticanstate/en/stato-e-governo/struttura-del-(name removed by moderator)ato/presidenza/presidente-emerito/2009/6-novembre-20090.paginate.1.html](http://www.vaticanstate.va/content/vaticanstate/en/stato-e-governo/struttura-del-(name removed by moderator)ato/presidenza/presidente-emerito/2009/6-novembre-20090.paginate.1.html)

These articles are also interesting:

“Vatican Holds Conference on Extraterrestrial Life” by Nicholos Wethington
universetoday.com/44713/vatican-holds-conference-on-extraterrestrial-life/#ixzz2a7E9QJr5

“Vatican Astronomer Says Its OK to Believe in ET” by Nancy Atkinson
universetoday.com/14262/vatican-astronomer-says-its-ok-to-believe-in-et/#ixzz2a7DqmUUN

I found this last article/interview particularly interesting because of how the priest addressed how Redemption might apply to alien life.

I hope this helps.

May Christ’s peace be with you.
 
catholicsaint said:
agnes therese…

Are you aware that the only way to salvation is through Jesus Christ ?
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Don’t question my knowledge of the Catholic faith, hon. I am required to follow Holy Mother Church, not your personal opinion.
I’m not sure why you ask questions if you feel that you already know all the answers.
 
DaveE said:
The story of Adam and Eve is exact by my standard. Inside that story is the real truth of why we are here and what this place we inhabit really means. Earth is the stage. The heavens are infinite space, a backdrop.

“And God created man in His own image: male and female He created them.” This woman was not fashioned out of a rib. This man was not built to resist sin. Those models came later. This initial model was around for a long time before the next model was created and breathed into. That model found its way to the Earth to mingle with version one, in order to comprehend the true nature of sin.

We are made in His image and are His children. Parents don’t waste their time building second families.
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DavE , FYI, women comes from man. Its simple really to understand. Read your bible.
 
Ok thanks people for giving me your opinions. We will leave it there, some great answers I got. Thanks once again,

God bless ,

catholic saint
 
If there were aliens, God would have told us about them.

If there are aliens, they aren’t superior to us, as we are made in the Image of God and many of us gain eternal life.

When Revelation describes the new heavens and the new earth and the New Jerusalem, no aliens are mentioned as those who inherit it.
 
agnes_therese said:
Don’t question my knowledge of the Catholic faith, hon. I am required to follow Holy Mother Church, not your personal opinion.
I’m not sure why you ask questions if you feel that you already know all the answers.
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Agnes therese,

Iam not questioning your knowledge, hon. The roman Catholic church believe in salvation only through the Lord Jesus Christ. That is all I said to you. No need to be rude about your answer please, hon. We as Catholics are allowed to think and challenge different things. Sure you will see in the church itself there is millions of different opinons. I just ask other peoples opinons here. There is no need to be rude in your answer because I don’t require that.
 
bsroufek said:
If there were aliens, God would have told us about them.

If there are aliens, they aren’t superior to us, as we are made in the Image of God and many of us gain eternal life.

When Revelation describes the new heavens and the new earth and the New Jerusalem, no aliens are mentioned as those who inherit it.
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I agree bsroufek. Very good answer
 
Allegra said:
You’ve lost me. The story of Adam and Eve isn’t exact by anyone’s standard. I don’t think it is likely that there is intelligent life on other planets, but even if there are, that doesn’t mean that they are equal in intellect to us or that they are made in God’s image. It only means that they are created. If they are created, they can only be created by God. Again, I highly doubt the existance of such creatures and I even further doubt that God intends for us to encounter them if they do exist.
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Good answer.
 
eyesopening said:
I for one, do NOT believe in aliens.
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I don’t believe in aliens also, eyeopening. Than you for your opinon. There is billions of galaxies so maybe there full of angels and heaven is there. God bless freind
 
DaveE said:
Yes, it is simple to understand. Genesis 1 is not the same as Genesis 2.
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daveE , God made women from mans rib. God made man first from the dust of the ground and gave the breath of life to man. Womens design was as a help meet for the man. God did not make women and man at the same time. Its all there in the bible. Why do you say women was made at the same time as man. When God himself who wrote the bible says he made women second as a help meet for man.
 
catholicsaint said:
daveE , God made women from mans rib. God made man first from the dust of the ground and gave the breath of life to man. Womens design was as a help meet for the man. God did not make women and man at the same time. Its all there in the bible. Why do you say women was made at the same time as man. When God himself who wrote the bible says he made women second as a help meet for man.
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Just to interject here. In Genesis 1, it says “So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.” This is in context of the 6 days of creation and 7th day of rest.

In Genesis 2, it says “And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man”.

Hence what DaveE said, there is Genesis 1 and there is Genesis 2.
 
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