Question about Condoms in Catholocism

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lol? Ok, I’ll tell all my athiest friends to not where condoms, then we can spread the fad, and we can have a baby boom, thats just what this country needs.

First, using a condom to further a bad act has no merit. In fact, using it allows one to keep acting badly and increases the chance of more bad things happening.

Secondly, as an aside, we do need more children. If those tens of millions who have been aborted were around we would be in much better shape as a society today.

 

[thistle]

We should keep in mind that ChristianKnight is only sixteen, obviously knows very little about his faith and seems pretty immature and inexperienced.

 

[jmcrae]

When did I make a freakin exception?

God’s law in the Bible is that sex is for making babies. The exception you are making is for condoms, which are for when people want to have sex without babies - that is, they want the fun of sex, but not the responsibility of marriage.

I am just saying it is a person’s choice. I am not gonna tell you that they can’t cause I’d be lieng. I never said I would, I just told you guys that my friends do, and that I cannot stop them.

Not being able to stop other people from committing sin doesn’t mean that, now it’s okay for them to sin, or that what they are doing isn’t really a sin, after all, from God’s point of view.

People that we love are perfectly capable of not listening to good advice, and sending themselves to Hell. Remember, God loves them, too - even more than we ever can - and He doesn’t prevent them from making bad choices, or force them to become saints. He just offers them the opportunity to repent and do better.

 

[mercygate]

Many Evangelical Christians share the Catholic view on contraception. This is not just a “Catholic thing.”

 

[Good_Daughter]

I am pretty sure that Condoms are considered a sin in Catholocism, why?

One reason is because Catholics see fertility not as a sickness or something from which you have to “protect” youself, but as a gift from God (how could it be anything else?).

Faithful Catholics consider fertility to be natural (normally developing without any effort), healthy (no one has ever died of fertility), and useful (an essential element in making new people).

All contraception use (condoms, the pill, sterilization, withdrawl, etc.) treats fertility as a threat that needs to be thwarted. This thinking is unacceptable for Catholics wish to treat God’s gifts with gratitude.

Catholicism teaches us to save sex for marriage. Within marriage, Catholics who have serious reason to avoid pregnancy may abstain from sexual relations or, if they are familiar with the wife’s fertility cycle, they may save sexual relations for times of low fertility. This is sometimes referred to as Natural Family Planning (NFP) and, if used properly, is much more effective for avoiding pregnancy than condoms (and more respectful of fertility.).

Great question, ChristianKnight!

 

[Good_Daughter]

We should keep in mind that ChristianKnight is only sixteen, obviously knows very little about his faith and seems pretty immature and inexperienced.

Then why don’t we “older” folks try to model maturity and experience instead of tossing around insults?

Kudos to ChristianKnight for asking such important questions at sixteen.

 

[ChristianKnight]

God’s law in the Bible is that sex is for making babies. The exception you are making is for condoms, which are for when people want to have sex without babies - that is, they want the fun of sex, but not the responsibility of marriage.

Not being able to stop other people from committing sin doesn’t mean that, now it’s okay for them to sin, or that what they are doing isn’t really a sin, after all, from God’s point of view.

People that we love are perfectly capable of not listening to good advice, and sending themselves to Hell. Remember, God loves them, too - even more than we ever can - and He doesn’t prevent them from making bad choices, or force them to become saints. He just offers them the opportunity to repent and do better.

I never said it was ok for them to do it, but I’d rather them use a condemn then get a kid, and lose their chances of going to college to follow their dreams.

First, using a condom to further a bad act has no merit. In fact, using it allows one to keep acting badly and increases the chance of more bad things happening.

Secondly, as an aside, we do need more children. If those tens of millions who have been aborted were around we would be in much better shape as a society today.

I didn’t know millions have been aborted, but I do not see how that would help America in its present sense of lack of hardness.

 

[Drilling4Truth]

I never said it was ok for them to do it, but I’d rather them use a condemn then get a kid, and lose their chances of going to college to follow their dreams.

I didn’t know millions have been aborted, but I do not see how that would help America in its present sense of lack of hardness.

 

[Drilling4Truth]

I never said it was ok for them to do it, but I’d rather them use a condemn then get a kid, and lose their chances of going to college to follow their dreams.

I didn’t know millions have been aborted, but I do not see how that would help America in its present sense of lack of hardness.

There have been over 49,387,600 surgical abortions performed in the United States since January 22, 1973. If you include abortions performed chemically that number triples.

One-third or your generation has been aborted with condoms in every corner drug store.

One year, a state dinner was organized at the White House and two very influential women sat together at the table of honor. The younger woman asked the elderly lay why she thought there had not yet been a woman President of the United States. The older woman replied, “Probably because she was aborted.”

The younger woman was then First Lady Hillary Clinton. The elderly woman was Mother Theresa of Calcutta.

 

[Letchitsa1]

http://cdn.myxertones.com/tn/c/493828/big/?t=20080523110923

Sorry, but the irony of that is just over-bearing.

As is the irony of the arrogance of your response, and honestly - the irony of the arrogance of many of your responses.

You asked about the Church’s teachings, presumably because you are seeking answers. Let’s stick to those questions and not stoop to the immaturity of hurling insults and unnecessary arrogance, regardless of how old or young we are.

 

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I never said it was ok for them to do it, but I’d rather them use a condemn then get a kid, and lose their chances of going to college to follow their dreams.

I didn’t know millions have been aborted, but I do not see how that would help America in its present sense of lack of hardness.

Do you view people, and children specifically, as the problem?

 

[ChristianKnight]

Do you view people, and children specifically, as the problem?

Problem to America not being hard enough? No, I view the softness of America the problem’s source.

There have been over 49,387,600 surgical abortions performed in the United States since January 22, 1973. If you include abortions performed chemically that number triples.

One-third or your generation has been aborted with condoms in every corner drug store.

One year, a state dinner was organized at the White House and two very influential women sat together at the table of honor. The younger woman asked the elderly lay why she thought there had not yet been a woman President of the United States. The older woman replied, “Probably because she was aborted.”

The younger woman was then First Lady Hillary Clinton. The elderly woman was Mother Theresa of Calcutta.

Wow, thats scary, I didn’t know Abortions were that popular. I would never abort my kid, but I’d be scared if he came out with a mental incapability, cause then he’d go through life not like other kids.

 

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Problem to America not being hard enough? No, I view the softness of America the problem’s source.

What do you mean by “soft”?

 

[ChristianKnight]

What do you mean by “soft”?

the Prison System for one. We are paying for men who commit acts against America, to sit in prison, weightlift, watch tv, or read books. Yes, prison does take away their freedom, but they still are given things that are considered wants not needs. I believe the prison system should be changed to be more harsh, so people would learn 1 time is enough, or at least, scare them out of not doing stupid things.

We also allow illegal immigrants to get passed, if they are caught they are deported, sometimes, not even that! That is atrocious, we should enforce this much much more heavily. We need to allow border guards the ability to shoot warning shots, and if neccessary, to shoot those who would wish to coem into America illegally, while others pay money to get visa’s.

 

[Drilling4Truth]

You forget the Christian virtue of charity towards all, even prisoners and illegal immigrants. This is an issue Catholics and non-Catholics should agree on.

But, I think we have successfully concluded this thread. If you wish to discuss social justice issues, we have a area for that.

 

[ChristianKnight]

You forget the Christian virtue of charity towards all, even prisoners and illegal immigrants. This is an issue Catholics and non-Catholics should agree on.

When a person does an illegal act in America, it should be enforced. If not, then what is to stop America from becoming a country full of nothing but crime?

 

[JRKH]

Yes I just poked my nose in and read through the responses.
The thread has gone all over the place.

As to the Original question, I’d say that it has been thoroughly covered for CK.

As to other issues and attitudes, CK is a youngster and obviously is dealing with a great many issues, not the least of which are raging hormones and peer pressure. For that I tend to try and cut him some slack.
His posts tend to ask serious questions but when he gets serious responses that disagree with his vast 16 years of experience and training he has a tendency to blow them off with a “lol” or other quick quip. Again, I chalk this up to age and inexperience.

All I can say is that we are planting seeds that, perhaps, someday, the Holy Spirit will use them to grow CK into a great Catholic serving the Glory of God in His Church.
We should all remember that some of our great teachers in the Church were pretty poor Christians, or even athiests before their conversion. St Augustine or Father Corapi come to mind.
Carry on all. CK is listening, even if he doesn’t know it yet.

Peace
James

 

[JDaniel]

I am pretty sure that Condoms are considered a sin in Catholocism, why?

Hello, ChristianKnight, and welcome.

I see from your profile that you are a Christian. If I may, I’d like to respectfully ask you a couple of serious questions. May I?

The first question is: Do you “practice” your religion rigorously, or, from time to time?

Merry Christmas and
Gob Bless,
JD

 

[st_lucy]

I think that we most all remember that “christianknight” is just a kid who is not well versed in Christianity. We were all there once, maybe not so blantly rude, but non the less there.

Christianknight I will keep you and your friends in my prayers. I know it seems easy to look at us old traditionalist as not in touch. But many of us where once in your position and do have some knowledge of what we are talking about. If you are a female, please do not reduce yourself to taking the pill. The pill recks havoc with your body and your cycles, take it from someone who is infertile due the many years of BC. If you are male, try to remember that as male you are directly incharge of the protection of all women. Why would you knowingly take something from your girlfriend that just does not belong to you?

Just some words of advice from someone who is older (but not too much older ).

 

[st_lucy]

the Prison System for one. We are paying for men who commit acts against America, to sit in prison, weightlift, watch tv, or read books. Yes, prison does take away their freedom, but they still are given things that are considered wants not needs. I believe the prison system should be changed to be more harsh, so people would learn 1 time is enough, or at least, scare them out of not doing stupid things.

We also allow illegal immigrants to get passed, if they are caught they are deported, sometimes, not even that! That is atrocious, we should enforce this much much more heavily. We need to allow border guards the ability to shoot warning shots, and if neccessary, to shoot those who would wish to coem into America illegally, while others pay money to get visa’s.

I take it from this you have never visited a prison? It seems as if it is not very harsh but it is a very scary place to be. Those immates are truly living out their punishments. Don’t take what hollywood would like you “think” of prison life too much to heart. It is not that great.