Question about marrying someone of another faith

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Hello there. I’m hoping someone on here can help me out. My boyfriend is Catholic and I am a Jehovah’s Witness. I’ve been married before to another witness in a Kingdom Hall and I was baptized as a JW (though I’m told Catholics don’t recognize the baptism because we don’t get baptized in the trinity).

My boyfriend and I want to get married, but I want to know what I have to go through to get married by his priest in his church. Someone on a yahoo group I belong to mentioned two years or RCIA (sorry if I got that wrong) classes, but that seems an awfully long time to wait to get married.

Do we just have to sit down with the priest or do I have to go to classes or what? I’m pretty confused about this and my boyfriend isn’t sure either as he’s never been married before and obviously not to someone of a different religion. I’m just trying to do some research so I’ll know what to expect and if I want to go through all of it or simply have a JP marry us.

Any help and advice you all could offer would be really great. Thanks!
–JB
 
There are marriage preparation classes that you will be required to take. You are not required to convert (RCIA).

A special dispensation will be needed as you’re not Catholic.

Your first marriage will have to dealt with. It will need to be either annulled or set aside. Your priest will help you with these issues.

Good luck
 
Well, I’m divorced so my first marriage has already been dealt with. It’s good to know that I won’t have to convert to get married in the church. I thought that two years of classes seemed odd. . .
Thanks so much!
 
Being civilly divorced may not be enough as far as “taking care” of your first marriage. This is only a question that a Priest can help you with and he may even need to go to a Canon lawyer to get an answer.

Going to RCIA classes isn’t a bad idea as it may help you to understand your boyfriend’s religion better and it doesn’t mean you have to convert.

I don’t recommend that the two of you get married though as you two are of two very different religions - I believe it would even be called “disparity of cult”, meaning a Christian and non-Christian (and yes, by definition JW’s are not Christian) - I do not wish to get into a debate on this though.

See some of the other threads on marrying a non-Catholic - you will find many others with the same opinion and I am coming from experience as I married a Lutheran (Baptised, Christian so the impediments were not as serious) and yes, we have been married for 26 years but this isn’t the norm.

Brenda V.
 
Brenda V.:
Being civilly divorced may not be enough as far as “taking care” of your first marriage. This is only a question that a Priest can help you with and he may even need to go to a Canon lawyer to get an answer.

I don’t recommend that the two of you get married though as you two are of two very different religions - I believe it would even be called “disparity of cult”, meaning a Christian and non-Christian (and yes, by definition JW’s are not Christian) - I do not wish to get into a debate on this though.

Brenda V.
Oh, I thought as long as you were divorced it was all set. Thanks for clarifying that. Guess I’ll just see what happens when we talk to the priest.

The second paragraph seems a bit harsh. No one here knows me or my boyfriend so how can you make such a definitive statement? I mean, plenty of people of different religions, colors, backgrounds, etc. get married all the time and it works out just fine. I’m not going to let go of the love of my life simply because he’s a different faith than me. And I wouldn’t wish to debate it either as we both have differing opinions. However, I would hope that people aren’t discouraged from marrying someone they’re in love with on the basis of something that can be compromised on and worked through.

Thanks for the answers.
–JB
 
Hi JB and welcome to the forum ! 🙂

You are right that we don’t know you or your boyfriend and we cannot say that it wouldn’t work out if you decided to marry. However, before I read your post I read the thread about “Whether you would marry the same spouse again if you could choose today” or something similar, I don’t know how to cut and paste here. I thought it was v interesting, esp the posts involving couples of differing faiths who spoke so honestly about how this really caused difficulties in their relationships…difficulties that they did not forsee at the outset when they were so much in love.

As you say, nobody knows you or your boyfriend and ultimately it’s a decision that only you and your boyfriend can make. I have never been married or even engaged so I have nothing to add from personal experience but I just think it’s interesting to read what others who have experience of a mixed faith relationship have to say.

If you have time take a quick peek at that thread (scroll down a few threads from this one).

Take care and all the very best.
 
I actually did see that post, but I will read further in it.

I’m not going into this blindly. I know how much difficulty religion and politics can cause in ANY relationship let alone a marriage. But I think that we are well-prepared. We’ve been together a while and have been through some really intense situations together and come out fine through it all.

Plus, we already know what the other is like on a day-to-day basis because we are living together (hence the reason why I’m a disfellowshipped JW and not an active one). Before I get a lecture about that, though, let me just say that it’s not an ideal situation for either of us but there were many things that led up to it that are personal and it’s why we had to move in together. We’d much rather be married than just living together. That’s something I swore I’d never do.

Hence why I’m here trying to get some info. : )

Can anyone else offer any advice on this? I mean, is the priest going to look down on me because I’m a JW or something? I thought you were supposed to love all people no matter what religion they are and such. When we went to mass the priest was very nice to me, but my boyfriend didn’t tell him I was a Jehovah’s Witness either so. . .

It was also pointed out that even though I’m divorced that may not be enough. But how can I get my marriage annulled when I’m already divorced? A little confused on that. I thought that JW marriages and baptisms didn’t really count much in the catholic church anyway. I could be wrong of course. . .

–JB
 
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jbjwstar:
It was also pointed out that even though I’m divorced that may not be enough. But how can I get my marriage annulled when I’m already divorced? A little confused on that. I thought that JW marriages and baptisms didn’t really count much in the catholic church anyway. I could be wrong of course. . .

–JB
The Catholic Church sees that marriage as valid, and civil authorities cannot separate what God has joined. As Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t have a mechanism to dissolve marriages, the Church will have to investigate the previous marriage, and determine if you are free to remarry.

Grounds for annulment include age, immaturity, and duress. That is if one of you wasn’t freely entering into the marriage, or didn’t have the capacity to marry, or didn’t understand the contract, it can be said the contract wasn’t validly entered into.

Valid marriages can be set aside through Pualine Privelege, Petrine Privelege, or unconsumation.
 
Ahhh, okay. Well, I did get married really young - 19 - so I don’t know.

The other reason that I defend so much marrying someone of a different faith than me is because (much like many of the Catholics I’ve seen on here) my mom always pushed me and pushed me to marry someone in my religion. Well, I did. And now I’m divorced. Sure, it wasn’t BECAUSE we were the same religion, but that it isn’t a cure all. My ex and I are still friends and were better off that way anyway.

So that’s why I’m so adamant that I can make a marriage with my boyfriend work. Anyway. . .back to your regularly scheduled programming.
 
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jbjwstar:
Well, I’m divorced so my first marriage has already been dealt with.
no, your first marriage is not “dealt with”. The Catholic Church recognizes all marriages as valid (no matter what religion or civil marriage) until proven otherwise. Civil divorce does nothing to end a valid marriage. Jesus tells us marriage is until death and we follow the Bible.

You would need to ask your boyfriend’s priest, before you even set a date or sign up for marriage classes, to submit the facts of your previous marriage to the marriage tribunal of your boyfriend’s diocese for judgement. You will give all the facts you have, if your ex can be located he will be asked for his side of the story, and all the witnesses you give the tribunal will be contacted. (if there is a reason one of these persons should not be contacted - abuse, restraining order etc, tell them, there are ways to deal with it). The issue here is the facts of the situation that pertained for you and your ex at the time of the marriage, which determines if it was valid, that is, if both of you were able to and entered into the marriage with full consent. In general the tribunal won’t consider an annulment unless or until there is a civil divorce, because there is always a chance the parties might get back together.

every case is different so what you hear from a third party is irrelevant. your boyfriend cannot marry (or even date) a divorced person and stay in the Catholic Church. Please see the priest, the process may be much simpler than you think. absolutely no point in giving any facts here, nobody here can help. If your boyfriend wants to marry in the Catholic church he has to abide by her laws on marriage.

He also has to abide by the laws of the church regarding a moral life, and as long as he is living with someone without benefit of valid marriage he has separated himself from the life and communion of the Church by his own choice. For a Catholic who really believes what the Church teaches about Jesus and the sacraments, this is a very painful situation. You are not bound by Catholic laws as you are not Catholic, but he is. So, if you marry a Catholic, naturally that will have an effect on your relationship.

There is no requirement that you convert, however as you know the differences between what Catholics believe and what Witnesses believe is very great which will pose a great strain on your marriage and be a barrier to true intimacy, not to mention the problem of children. He (not you) is required to promise he will baptize and raise his children as Catholics.

What do the leaders of your own church have to say about your marrying a Catholic? If you wish to remain JW you also have to abide by the rules of your own faith. As I understand it, this is highly frowned upon in your church.
 
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puzzleannie:
no, your first marriage is not “dealt with”. The Catholic Church recognizes all marriages as valid (no matter what religion or civil marriage) until proven otherwise. Civil divorce does nothing to end a valid marriage. Jesus tells us marriage is until death and we follow the Bible.
Yes, I know this now. Some other people in the thread explained it for me, thanks. My religion follows the bible as well, which is why my divorce was not taken lightly. But my first marriage was not right and I feel I was right to get out of it. Besides, I was told my marriage isn’t valid to the church because JWs are “not Christian”.
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puzzleannie:
every case is different so what you hear from a third party is irrelevant. your boyfriend cannot marry (or even date) a divorced person and stay in the Catholic Church. Please see the priest, the process may be much simpler than you think. absolutely no point in giving any facts here, nobody here can help. If your boyfriend wants to marry in the Catholic church he has to abide by her laws on marriage.
I don’t know if I entirely understand your comment saying that nobody here can help. I mean, aren’t you all giving me general info and helping in that way? A couple people I’ve run into already here seem kind of negative and I don’t know if it’s just coming off that way because it’s hard to gauge people’s tone online or if I’m just not that welcome because I’m a JW or something.

I’ve never heard about the rule regarding a catholic not dating a divorced person. I’ve seen quite a few people on here post that they are on their second or third marriage. So what gives?

I’m hoping the process will be much simpler than I think, yes. Because after reading some of the stuff on here it is certainly sounding more complicated by the second and I’m thinking I’d rather not deal with all the stuff I’d have to go through just for a marriage ceremony in a church. I mean, I’m only doing this for my boyfriend anyway.

A tribunal sounds just like my elder committee that met to decide whether or not to disfellowship me. Can’t say I’m psyched about that idea. : ) kidding. But I wouldn’t want them talking to my ex because he is still a JW and I know he won’t approve of a Catholic wedding so god knows what he’d say. That hardly seems fair. I mean, why would I lie just to get married in a religion I don’t even belong to? It just seems like a heck of a lot of work for a ceremony site I guess is what I’m saying.
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puzzleannie:
There is no requirement that you convert, however as you know the differences between what Catholics believe and what Witnesses believe is very great which will pose a great strain on your marriage and be a barrier to true intimacy, not to mention the problem of children. He (not you) is required to promise he will baptize and raise his children as Catholics.
I knew that part. And I have no problem with our kids attending church. But I want them to be able to make up their own mind about what religion they want to be in. I don’t want them to feel forced to be a Catholic or forced to be a Witness. But I don’t think the difference in the religions is that great. The major issues would be the trinity (we don’t believe in it), the cross (we believe Jesus was killed on a torture stake), and holidays (but we could compromise on holidays once we had kids).
As for intimacy and such, see my reply to the next paragraph.
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puzzleannie:
What do the leaders of your own church have to say about your marrying a Catholic? If you wish to remain JW you also have to abide by the rules of your own faith. As I understand it, this is highly frowned upon in your church.
It is frowned upon in my faith. However, if you have an honorable courtship, no fornication, you aren’t automatically kicked out or something. I was df’d because of wanting a divorce, saying I was going to move in with my best friend who is also df’d, and so on.

I’ve gone through a lot to be with my boyfriend, and he with me, and I don’t’ think any religion should be able to tell us we shouldn’t be together or that our kids will be confused or that we can never have true intimacy. I’ve grown closer to this man in the past year than I ever was with my ex whom I dated since I was 16.

I don’t mean any of this to come off sounding harsh, but I just feel like while people are answering my questions in some ways, in others I feel very judged and I hardly think that’s fair. I would think that if someone shows an interest in your religion you would be very welcoming. I know I used to love being asked questions about my faith and I relished the opportunity to talk to an interested one.

As I said, this could all just be the way people come across in writing and that I’ve got it all wrong. I’m perfectly open to that possibility. I guess I’ll just talk to my boyfriend’s priest and see what he says. But I have severe anxiety and I really like to know what I’m walking into beforehand so I hoped to gain some knowledge here and maybe gain some support in the process. (Not saying I didn’t, just making a statement.) Thanks.
 
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jbjwstar:
Yes, I know this now. Some other people in the thread explained it for me, thanks. My religion follows the bible as well, which is why my divorce was not taken lightly. But my first marriage was not right and I feel I was right to get out of it. Besides, I was told my marriage isn’t valid to the church because JWs are “not Christian”.
I don’t know who told you that, as I suggested why not go to the priest and get the info from the horse’s mouth, not hearsay
I don’t know if I entirely understand your comment saying that nobody here can help. I mean, aren’t you all giving me general info and helping in that way? A couple people I’ve run into already here seem kind of negative and I don’t know if it’s just coming off that way because it’s hard to gauge people’s tone online or if I’m just not that welcome because I’m a JW or something.

the general rule for this forum is that it is a Catholic forum, so we discuss Catholic beliefs, laws and doctrine. we can tell you what that is, but we cannot help you with a personal situation that has to be dealt with where you are. It would be like asking a perfect stranger you meet at walmart to give you legal advice.
I’ve never heard about the rule regarding a catholic not dating a divorced person. I’ve seen quite a few people on here post that they are on their second or third marriage. So what gives?

WHAT others do or don’t do is beside the point, a Catholic may not date someone who is not free to marry. the problem here is what your boyfriend believes and how much he wishes to follow the teachings of his faith
it is certainly sounding more complicated by the second and I’m thinking I’d rather not deal with all the stuff I’d have to go through just for a marriage ceremony in a church. I mean, I’m only doing this for my boyfriend anyway.

to Catholics, this is not about a ceremony in a Church, it is about a lifetime commitment, (between Catholics it is a sacrament) and it is not a private affair, it affects the entire Church. The state you reside in does not regard it as a private affair either, that is why they have rules about marriage and divorce.
I knew that part. And I have no problem with our kids attending church. But I want them to be able to make up their own mind about what religion they want to be in. I don’t want them to feel forced to be a Catholic or forced to be a Witness.

That is fine for you, but not for your boyfriend. As you see, he has the issues, he has to decide if he wishes to remain Catholic, and if he does he (not you) is bound by the rules.
But I don’t think the difference in the religions is that great.
The differences are enormous, perhaps you have not studied your own faith enough to know that. We believe Jesus Christ is God, Second Person of the Blessed Trinity, who became man, suffered died, was buried, rose again from the dead and ascended into heaven, founded the Catholic Church which exists today led by the successors of the apostles, and sent the Holy Spirit to protect and guide that Church. This is foundational to who we are and what we believe. The Catholic has an identity, and someone who enters into a relationship as intimate as marriage–which sacred to us because it is the earthly metaphor for the relationship of Jesus to His Church–has to accept the person in all aspects of his identity.
I don’t mean any of this to come off sounding harsh, but I just feel like while people are answering my questions in some ways, in others I feel very judged and I hardly think that’s fair.

I have no intention of judging you, as I said before, these rules and doctrines bind your Catholic boyfriend, and it is up to him to decide. If you love him, and if this is important to him, then you have to decide how to proceed. It would be a huge mistake to convert just for his sake, that is personal to your soul and your spiritual development.
I really like to know what I’m walking into beforehand so I hoped to gain some knowledge here and maybe gain some support in the process. (Not saying I didn’t, just making a statement.) Thanks.

THAT is exactly what we are trying to do here, give you the background so you understand your boyfriend’s situation a little better. This is really about him, it becomes about you if and when you decide to link your life with his.
 
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puzzleannie:
THAT is exactly what we are trying to do here, give you the background so you understand your boyfriend’s situation a little better. This is really about him, it becomes about you if and when you decide to link your life with his.
Um, okay. Yes, exactly. But I thought I’d made it clear that it’s about both of us because I’ve already decided to “link my life with his” as you stated. I guess I still don’t get why some of it is coming off as kind of negative towards me. But oh well. Some things are just a mystery I guess.
 
I didn’t find any of the information here negative at all. Just the reality of this situation. There is evidence that you have been misinformed about Catholic requirements, and several people here have tried to iron out those things for you.

If your boyfriend’s diocese determines that your marriage is still valid, you are a married woman. He would be walking a sinfull line if he continued to pursue a romantic relationship with a married woman.

The fact that you are a JW isn’t really the hangup here. There are a number of people on this board of different religions whom we welcome and welcome thier questions and comments. But the information given will be Catholic information, or comments from a Catholic perspective. If they don’t fall in line with your beliefs, I don’t think you can consider that negative to you… it is just a Catholic perspective.

You might also note (if it hasn’t been discussed already) that regardless of how you wish your children to be able to “choose” their religion sometime in their life, you are BOUND to bring up children Catholic. You will not be allowed to marry in the Catholic Church if your husband to-be or your children will not be able to pursue their Catholic requirements fully.

I know this sounds like a lot of red tape, but it is there for a reason. That being, to make sure that the marriage vows are not taken lightly or taken hastily and that they fall in line with Catholicism. This is not an insult to you or JWs at all. This is just the reality of marriage into the Catholic faith.

Finally, two years really isn’t that long to work out these issues. You speak of enduring many trials with your beloved- maybe this is just another one of those trials. You might take an opportunity to enroll in RCIA and get all the information about Catholicism that you will be encountering for the rest of your married life with your boyfriend/husband.

Much peace to you- this is a truly difficult situation, and I respect you for taking the time to look into it for your boyfriend. That shows much consideration to him.

God Bless you.
 
Your conversation here makes it clear that there are some important things that you do not understand about the Catholic church and faith. As people, we are not saying that people of differing faiths can’t “make it”. But as far as the CHURCH is concerned, no, you cannot allow your children to choose their religion. The Catholic church does not allow that.

These impediments are not being thrown at you by the people here, they are explaining church doctrine. They are being honest about what you are up against.

Catholicism does not accept or work with other religions. There is no meeting half way. If you are wholly involved in your faith, and your fiancee with his, then this is a really long haul you have ahead of you. If a Catholic marries a non Catholic, the church dictates that the non catholic makes all the compromise and the Catholic NONE. That is church teaching.

I too married someone of a different faith. I was only 19 as well. We are 20 yrs and counting. So it can work, but we are not dealing with the Catholic church.

Move ahead very cautiously.

cheddar
 
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Shiann:
The fact that you are a JW isn’t really the hangup here. There are a number of people on this board of different religions whom we welcome and welcome thier questions and comments. But the information given will be Catholic information, or comments from a Catholic perspective. If they don’t fall in line with your beliefs, I don’t think you can consider that negative to you… it is just a Catholic perspective.

You might also note (if it hasn’t been discussed already) that regardless of how you wish your children to be able to “choose” their religion sometime in their life, you are BOUND to bring up children Catholic. You will not be allowed to marry in the Catholic Church if your husband to-be or your children will not be able to pursue their Catholic requirements fully.

I know this sounds like a lot of red tape, but it is there for a reason. That being, to make sure that the marriage vows are not taken lightly or taken hastily and that they fall in line with Catholicism. This is not an insult to you or JWs at all. This is just the reality of marriage into the Catholic faith.
Thanks for your kinds words. I understand everything you are saying up there. JWs are the same way actually. I think that a lot of people say that we are really strict and all that, but in a lot of ways it doesn’t differ at all from the info you just provided me.

I’d just like my kids to be able to choose their religion. If that means they won’t be accepted in the catholic church than so be it I guess. I’m not saying I wouldn’t let them be baptized as babies or that I would keep them out of CCD or whatever. I’m just saying they should have that right to choose.

Catholics believe they are the true religion. JWs believe the same. As my boyfriend just put it to me when he came to visit me for lunch, “We all worship the one true God and as long as we have the right thoughts in our hearts it shouldn’t matter.” That goes right along with what I said about how it depends on heart condition, not where you worship every Sunday.

So thanks for the info. Like I said, my best bet is probably just to talk to the priest. We’re getting married either way. We love one another too much to let religion stand in the way. So if the priest says we can do it in the church, great. If not, then that’s the way it is. I’m prepared for either circumstance.

🙂
 
EVERYONE LISTEN UP:

Jbjwstar is sincerely seeking charitable advice. Some of the replies are overly curt, and we need to be mindful of the real-life hardships that she is facing. Remember, we are Christians, and we must keep constantly before us the truth that God loves all of His children, even those who don’t believe as we do. Please ensure that you are being as friendly and nice as possible when posting your replies. She is seeking honest guidance about Catholic beliefs, and she is not attacking us.

My wife, a Baptist, read this post and was aghast at how Jbjwstar was being treated. I (a staunch rank and file Catholic, if you’ve read my posts) did not see it (…revert…which explains my mixed-marriage). To me, everything seemed kosher. To my wife, who doesn’t agree with what we believe, all of the replies appeared curt to the point of harsh, and not becoming people who imitate Christ.

Please take this to heart! Just because you *think *you’re replying with the truth doesn’t give you the right to be haughty. Truth without love is a clanging symbol! This is a very difficult situation for Jbjwstar, and we should all keep in mind the hard times that we’ve had. Jbjwstar has said a couple of times now that she feels attacked / ganged up on. Please hear her.

In Christ,
RyanL
 
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cheddarsox:
These impediments are not being thrown at you by the people here, they are explaining church doctrine. They are being honest about what you are up against.

Catholicism does not accept or work with other religions. There is no meeting half way. If you are wholly involved in your faith, and your fiancee with his, then this is a really long haul you have ahead of you. If a Catholic marries a non Catholic, the church dictates that the non catholic makes all the compromise and the Catholic NONE. That is church teaching.

I too married someone of a different faith. I was only 19 as well. We are 20 yrs and counting. So it can work, but we are not dealing with the Catholic church.

Move ahead very cautiously.

cheddar
I’d like to think I’m not up against anything. Religion should be something that brings joy and light into people’s lives, not something negative.

JWs are much the same way in expecting the partner of the other faith to make the changes. But I’m not prepared to make too many changes and neither is my boyfriend so we’ll just have to deal with whatever outcome that brings.

I’m happy that your marriage has lasted so long despite differing faiths. I believe our differences make our relationship that much stronger. I"m not saying it’s the same for everyone, but if that’s what I believe about MY personal life then that should be fine with everyone.

Thanks!
 
RyanL said:
EVERYONE LISTEN UP:

My wife, a Baptist, read this post and was aghast at how Jbjwstar was being treated. I (a staunch rank and file Catholic, if you’ve read my posts) did not see it (…revert…which explains my mixed-marriage). To me, everything seemed kosher. To my wife, who doesn’t agree with what we believe, all of the replies appeared curt to the point of harsh, and not becoming people who imitate Christ.

Please take this to heart! Just because you *think *you’re replying with the truth doesn’t give you the right to be haughty. Truth without love is a clanging symbol! This is a very difficult situation for Jbjwstar, and we should all keep in mind the hard times that we’ve had. Jbjwstar has said a couple of times now that she feels attacked / ganged up on. Please hear her.

In Christ,
RyanL

Thanks for that. I don’t’ want to start any big argument on here. I think that sometimes I myself can come off all wrong on a forum. And I know that most people here are not out to attack me. As I said, some of it just sounded a bit harsh is all. I’m in love with this man, regardless of his faith, actually that’s not correct. I’m in love with this man BECAUSE of his faith and the same goes for him. One of the things he said he found so attractive in me was that I glowed with my faith. We may have different religions but that doesn’t make our love any less intense.

Please, I don’t’ want anyone to get a bad impression of me on here. I’m not here to start stuff. I just wanted to gain some information to show my boyfriend that I really was serious about trying to make his dream of a church wedding come true. So thank you all for your help. I’m sure I’ll still check here for info. I wasn’t put off or anything. I just didn’t understand some of the animosity.

Forgive and forget. So much online is misinterpreted. Have a great rest of your day everyone!!
 
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jbjwstar:
It was also pointed out that even though I’m divorced that may not be enough. But how can I get my marriage annulled when I’m already divorced? A little confused on that. I thought that JW marriages and baptisms didn’t really count much in the catholic church anyway. I could be wrong of course. . .

–JB
JB - This is only a question that the Priest can answer, or you can go to the “Ask An Apologist” forum and ask.

I do want to assure you that I was not trying to be harsh in discouraging you because I don’t know you and your boyfriend but I am one of those who is in a marriage to a man who isn’t Catholic and there are things we never thought that would affect us prior to our marriage - the problems really arise when talking about children and how to raise them etc.

As for the Priest “looking down on you”, he might have something to say about the two of you living together prior to marriage. He should because it is an immoral situation and he needs to point that out to you (yes, you probably already know this but he has an obligation to make sure you both understand this 😃 ). I don’t think he will have too much of a problem with the your being a JW as that can be dealt with through dispensation etc. Please if this is what both you and your boyfriend know you are to do then don’t let a cranky Priest discourage you from getting Married in the Church.

My prayers will be with both of you as you start the process

Brenda V.
 
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