Question About Mary ??

[kujo313]

If the Holy Spirit guides US each as individual Christians in all truth then how come so many (and whichever way you slice it it is MANY), who mean so well, have got it so terribly wrong???

How come the Apostles themselves needed to hold a council in Acts to clarify and come to a consensus about what they were to teach?

Who on earth does your Pastor have a council with to cross-check that what he teaches you is correct?

Or could it be that it’s actually the official institution that Christ is protecting? The same one that does, to this day, hold ecumenical councils to take stock of their faith and teachings as the Apostles did? The Catholic Church?

In any case you’re lost, since your church (denomination) wasn’t around at the time Christ made that promise, and he didn’t promise that it would be a new breakaway church (denomination) that would conquer hell, rather HIS original one, founded on Peter the rock.

Peter said that the “cornerstone” IS Christ, not himself. The TRUE Church of Jesus Christ would draw attention to Jesus and no others. I attend a Pentecostal Church. It’s been around since Acts chapter 2 and it’s founder has been around since the beginning of time.

YOUR denomination brings us things that draw your attention to other people especially Mary (rosaries, scapulars, statues and shrines dedicated to her). Yea, you’d say “she points the way to Christ”, but you STILL look at her!
Duh! Quit looking at her and look at Jesus!

 

[kujo313]

Sounds like somebody is missing out on the opportunity to capitalize on a previously unknown religious shrine and tourist attraction.

Yea, like a bunch of catholics reciting a rosary, carrying paintings and statues of Mary and even asking her to do something like appear on a grilled cheese sandwich.

 

[LilyM]

Peter said that the “cornerstone” IS Christ, not himself. The TRUE Church of Jesus Christ would draw attention to Jesus and no others. I attend a Pentecostal Church. It’s been around since Acts chapter 2 and it’s founder has been around since the beginning of time.

YOUR denomination brings us things that draw your attention to other people especially Mary (rosaries, scapulars, statues and shrines dedicated to her). Yea, you’d say “she points the way to Christ”, but you STILL look at her!
Duh! Quit looking at her and look at Jesus!

When your Pastor or choir leader or whoever is up there preaching and leading you in prayer and song you think THEY aren’t drawing attention to THEMSELVES? Of course they are!

Certainly I’ve never had Mary audibly speaking to me, nor physically seen her. I’m sure your pastor or whoever leads your worhsip would be a bigger distraction than she is.

Quit looking at your pastor - your mother - your father - your boss - your bedroom wall - anything and everything that isn’t Jesus his own self. But wait, according to you he’s not physically on earth any more. That means you literally can’t look at ANYTHING, not even your own reflection in a mirror, since that can distract you from Jesus as much as anything or anyone else. See where your illogic takes you?

 

[paarsurrey]

Originally Posted by paarsurrey
According to our researhc Jesus died in SiriNagar, India and is buried there. **Mary perhaps died in the way and is buried in Murree **(maybe named after her) a hilly resort near Islamabad, Pakistan.
Sounds like somebody is missing out on the opportunity to capitalize on a previously unknown religious shrine and tourist attraction.

Hi
Fortunately, that could not be done now, as the place is surrounded by TVBooster, and public is not allowed to enter there.
So nobody could capitalize it as a tourist attraction.
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi – a peaceful faith in Islam bridging gaps between faiths/denominations/religions/agnostics
The West, as I understand, due to certain disinformation has seen only MullahIslam or MullahShariah; the true face of Muhammad’sIslam and PromisedMessiahImamMahdi’sIslam is yet hidden from their eyes, which is truly speaking only peaceful.
GodAllahYHWH is All-Knowing; one should invariably give Claim and Reason on all important issues from one’s Revealed Book; one shouldn’t try putting one’s own words into God’s mouth.

 

[Jaypeeto4]

Dear Kujo,
No Catholic has ever asked Mary to appear in a grilled cheese sandwich, for pete sake.

I heard about the grilled cheese sandwich that had a burn pattern that looked like a picture of the virgin Mary but so what?!!
There was also a sticky bun that appeared to look like the face of the nun, Mother Teresa of Calcutta. It became known as
“The Nun Bun.” Nobody asked Mother Teresa to have her face appear in a sticky bun, either. You, like many fundamentalists, are being a ridiculous smart aleck. Your dad should have turned you across his knee and given you a good swtichin’ more often, it would seem.

Protestant teachings never existed in the history of Christianity until the 16th century and after, much later than the rosary !!
And prayers to Mary asking her intercession appeared in the Church soon after Mary’s passing, in the first century.

The Rosary is a beautiful devotion and primarily a form of meditation wherein you meditate on 20 stories from the Bible.
They are called “mysteries,” but they are contained in Scripture
( 18 of them ), and two are IMPLIED in scripture (the Assumption of Mary, implied in Revelation 12, and her coronation as God’s holiest female creature, also implied in Revelation 12 AND in the Apostle Paul’s teaching that a Crown is reserved in heaven for all faithful Christians).

The stories meditated on in the Rosary are very rich, and as you repeatedly meditate on them, using the Hail Mary’s as a kind of “background music,” the Holy Ghost reveals to your mind significances in those biblical stories that are not always apparent from a mere surface reading of the text. The Rosary is not some stupid mindless repetition of Hail Mary’s, Our Father’s, and Glory Be’s. You readily ricicule what you don’t understand, and scripture condemns that kind of behavior. Grow up.

God bless,
Jaypeeto4
+JMJ+

 

[kujo313]

When your Pastor or choir leader or whoever is up there preaching and leading you in prayer and song you think THEY aren’t drawing attention to THEMSELVES? Of course they are!

Certainly I’ve never had Mary audibly speaking to me, nor physically seen her. I’m sure your pastor or whoever leads your worhsip would be a bigger distraction than she is.

Quit looking at your pastor - your mother - your father - your boss - your bedroom wall - anything and everything that isn’t Jesus his own self. But wait, according to you he’s not physically on earth any more. That means you literally can’t look at ANYTHING, not even your own reflection in a mirror, since that can distract you from Jesus as much as anything or anyone else. See where your illogic takes you?

Actually, our worship leader wants us to sing to God. Praise God. During worship, we’re on our knees loving the Lord. Some people are so full of joy in His presence that they weep.
My pastor is being led to take us through the Gosple of John one subject at a time. He applies it to us today as well as teaches about how it applied to the people of that day.
My pastor spends alot of time alone in prayer before he preaches. He tells us that he’s no better than us and that he only has a Gift and a microphone.

Everything that I look at, I see Jesus. The trees have branches that reach out to Heaven in worship. The evergreen tree is ever green just as His love for us never dies.
A mirror shows me that we’re to reflect Christ to the earth just as the moon reflects the sun, we’re to reflect the Son.
My bicycle has a kick-stand. Jesus holds me up.
On the steering wheel of my car is a symbol of a horn. Perhaps TODAY we’ll hear the trumpet sound from Heaven and will be taken from here!

Want more?

 

[kujo313]

Dear Kujo,
No Catholic has ever asked Mary to appear in a grilled cheese sandwich, for pete sake.

I heard about the grilled cheese sandwich that had a burn pattern that looked like a picture of the virgin Mary but so what?!!
There was also a sticky bun that appeared to look like the face of the nun, Mother Teresa of Calcutta. It became known as
“The Nun Bun.” Nobody asked Mother Teresa to have her face appear in a sticky bun, either. You, like many fundamentalists, are being a ridiculous smart aleck. Your dad should have turned you across his knee and given you a good swtichin’ more often, it would seem.

Protestant teachings never existed in the history of Christianity until the 16th century and after, much later than the rosary !!
And prayers to Mary asking her intercession appeared in the Church soon after Mary’s passing, in the first century.

The Rosary is a beautiful devotion and primarily a form of meditation wherein you meditate on 20 stories from the Bible.
They are called “mysteries,” but they are contained in Scripture
( 18 of them ), and two are IMPLIED in scripture (the Assumption of Mary, implied in Revelation 12, and her coronation as God’s holiest female creature, also implied in Revelation 12 AND in the Apostle Paul’s teaching that a Crown is reserved in heaven for all faithful Christians).

The stories meditated on in the Rosary are very rich, and as you repeatedly meditate on them, using the Hail Mary’s as a kind of “background music,” the Holy Ghost reveals to your mind significances in those biblical stories that are not always apparent from a mere surface reading of the text. The Rosary is not some stupid mindless repetition of Hail Mary’s, Our Father’s, and Glory Be’s. You readily ricicule what you don’t understand, and scripture condemns that kind of behavior. Grow up.

God bless,
Jaypeeto4
+JMJ+

Nobody asked to appear on a sandwich. But as soon as somebody said “This looks like Mary”, THOUSANDS of people flocked over to see the sandwich. WHY?? So rediculous.

Also, why repeat the “Hail Mary” all those times? Can’t she hear? Does she have alzeimers or amnesia? Sure Jesus prayed for the same thing three times… but not in a succession one after another!
The “background music” is hailing Mary. Jesus clearly said “Come unto Me”. Paul said that only Jesus is between us and God.
If I choose not to address or recognize Mary, am I going to Hell by your denomination’s standards or tradition?

 

[LilyM]

Actually, our worship leader wants us to sing to God. Praise God. During worship, we’re on our knees loving the Lord. Some people are so full of joy in His presence that they weep.
My pastor is being led to take us through the Gosple of John one subject at a time. He applies it to us today as well as teaches about how it applied to the people of that day.
My pastor spends alot of time alone in prayer before he preaches. He tells us that he’s no better than us and that he only has a Gift and a microphone.

Everything that I look at, I see Jesus. The trees have branches that reach out to Heaven in worship. The evergreen tree is ever green just as His love for us never dies.
A mirror shows me that we’re to reflect Christ to the earth just as the moon reflects the sun, we’re to reflect the Son.
My bicycle has a kick-stand. Jesus holds me up.
On the steering wheel of my car is a symbol of a horn. Perhaps TODAY we’ll hear the trumpet sound from Heaven and will be taken from here!

Want more?

How many times do you say ‘Amen’ or ‘Alleluia’ huh? Probably more than you could possibly count. Why is the Hail Mary vain repetition and endless repetitions of ‘Amen’ or ‘Praise Jesus’ aren’t??

Seriously, it’s good that so many things lead you to God. Has it ever happened that you were so overawed with the reflection of God that you saw in that tree or in something else that you just stopped still for a minute and said a quick prayer to Him (as all prayer is, really-o truly-o)?

If I saw you, and were determined to call you an idolater, I could claim every bit as justly that you were worshipping that object that you were standing and praying in front of. I would be wrong to assume that, just as you are wrong to assume we’re worshipping Mary.

And I suppose people have never led you to God? You’ve just mentioned your pastor, it’s great that he has done so. I suppose you’ve never thanked him for it? Praised God or praised him (your pastor) for the good work he has done for you?

Asked him maybe to help you go even deeper in your walk with God? Asked him to pray for you and with you? Even thought at times that you maybe saw God or the Holy Spirit speaking or working through him? You’ve said the Holy Spirit lead him to take you through the Gospel of John, so I know this last part is true.

Not a bit of this is any different to the way we think of Mary or act towards her. We love her, respect her, honour her, see glimpses of God through her and in her, no more. Special glimpses, because she had a unique relationship to Him.

If we wanted, we could find enough evidence to accuse you of paying undue attention or respect to your Pastor or those inanimate objects. We don’t, we think you both more sincere in your worship of God and more sensible than that.

Please, for love of the God we both worship, pay us the same courtesy and stop accusing us of worshipping Mary!

 

[Jaypeeto4]

Kujo, hi,
saying the Hail Mary is a respectful way of greeting her and acknowledging the presence of God in her.

It does not mean, I WORSHIP YOU MARY.
It’s a very sweet and loving thing to say, not idolatry.
Repeating it in the rosary is a nice meditation technique in which the hail Mary’s serve as a background music while your mind focuses on the story. It’s a learned technique, but it certainly isn’t worship.

And please come on, knock off the wisecracks about Mary having Alzheimers disease. Such disrespectful talk about the eternally-chosen mother of the Lord Jesus borders on sacrilege.

Yes, I too heard that many people wanted to see the alleged image of Mary on the cheese sandwich. I guarantee you that the vast majority of Catholics do not do such silly things. To me, the idea of Mary appearing on a bit-off piece of a grilled cheese sandwich is sacrilegious. And I saw the “image” on tv.
It looked like a woman’s face and hair, to be sure, but where people got the notion that it looked like mother Mary is beyond me. To me it looked more like an Italian woman wearing a chapel veil over her hair, not like any portrait of Mary that I have ever seen.

God bless you,
Jaypeeto4
+JMJ+

 

[jmcrae]

You cannot deny that rosaries ARE a part of the catholic religion’s “tradition” from the 12th or 14th century, over a thousand years after Jesus. Yet, it wasn’t a part of the “tradition” that Paul mentioned in his letters.

Did you not know this?

Holly Hobby sets and Veggie Tales weren’t around then, either.

The Rosary is a way of learning the stories of the Gospel. Both the Our Father and the Hail Mary are from the Bible itself. The rest of the prayers (Glory Be, Apostles’ Creed, O My Jesus, etc.), though not taken directly from Scripture, are certainly Biblical.

 

[Pixie_Dust]

You cannot deny that rosaries ARE a part of the catholic religion’s “tradition” from the 12th or 14th century, over a thousand years after Jesus. Yet, it wasn’t a part of the “tradition” that Paul mentioned in his letters.

Did you not know this?

The practice of counting prayers using beads or stones is much older than that. If you’re sincerely interested in the history of the Rosary (which, by the way, is NOT required and binding on ANY Catholic - you can be a good, devout Catholic and never pray a rosary in your life!) there is a magnificent book that explains the origins of it and what each part of each prayer means.

 

[Randy_Carson]

I know that you haven’t learned this in the Catholic Church. I never heard it there.

John 16:12-14

“I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you."

Then you weren’t paying attention because this passage is very strong evidence in favor of the infallibility and authority of the Magisterium.

Was Jesus speaking these words to a large group of people on a hillside somewhere (many of whom he would not know personally) or was this spoken to a small group of intimates that He had personally chosen and trained?

If the latter, does this reflect the fact that the Apostles received a charism that the crowds did not?

You cannot deny that rosaries ARE a part of the catholic religion’s “tradition” from the 12th or 14th century, over a thousand years after Jesus. Yet, it wasn’t a part of the “tradition” that Paul mentioned in his letters.

Did you not know this?

 

[guanophore]

It is funny how a religion can be base completely on scripture can be called man made, Lutheran (WELS).

Because it is based on what a person “believes” that interpretation to mean. Everyone has a different filter, a different lens through which they look. The JW’s read scripture, and believe that Jesus is not God. Their filter doesn’t allow them to see certain things. We all have filters.

 

[guanophore]

Sorry it took me so long to resond: had to dig this one out of the files. It was not written to you but for a friend that was having trouble with the Triune God understanding. Hope this helps

That is good, but I was asking about the word Trinity.

 

[guanophore]

First it is a restriction placed by man not God

This is not the case, zcharry. The gift of celibacy is no more restricting than the marriage vow of a couple. A person enters it freely, understanding that, in the act of embracing one gift, they are letting go of other options. A married man should not have sex with someone other than His wife. This was not meant to be a “restriction” but a freedom. As scripture states, a celibate man remains so in order that he can be free from the reponsibilities of family life. If celibacy is not an ideal, why did Jesus live it, and why did St. Paul promote it?

Second. I think there our vaild points not to be married as it would free up a heck of a lot of time. You should see my honey do list I have building up as I write this e-mail. I think, back by scripture, it should be left up to the person to chose.
My view only.

Also the view of St. Paul, and the Catholic Church! Glad we can agree on something.

Third
I want to say up front that I do not blame the Church for the failures of Priest. They have failed not the Church, but the Chruch has known this problem has existed since Priest were barred from marriage. It is debatable whether the Church has done all that they could do to prevent it

Yes, you are blaming the church. You are accusing the church of “barring” priests from marriage. In fact, the church only recognizes that those called to the priesthood are also called to be celibate. Setting the standard of a high calling is not what creates sin.The church teaches that married couples should be faithful to one another. If one of them commits adultery, did the church “bar” him from that?

You are also placing the blame on Christ Himself, who lived the celibate life and gave Himself as an example of the great High Priest. You are also blaming the Apostolic teaching, which favors celibate priests over married.

Show me one thing in the Nicene Creed that is not in scripture or taught in scripture

The point we are trying to make, zcharry, is that the Sacred Traditions (the teachings of the Apostles) predated the scripture. The creeds emerged out of the oral teaching, then later, the written word. None of them are meant to be separated from the Apostolic Tradition which gave birth to them.

 

[guanophore]

In some translation, he descended into hell.

A few days later they return to their tombs and their spirits went to heaven. Jesus Christ on the third day rose from the dead.

How do you know this? How do you know He did not take them with Him?

 

[guanophore]

To be a Priest and be married in the Catholic Church you can not do both.
It is a restriction. I will not diagee that not marrying is in the Bible. But so is marraige for priestin the Bible. They just should have the choice of being able to do both.

I have read your other post on different threads and I have come to the conclusion that you M/O is one of a attack.
What does a comment of a reformed Pastor and a male hooker have to do with anything.
A better statement would be of a Pastor preying on young kids that trust the man to be a man of God and sexully abusing them for years turning what they thought of Church and God into a sexually perverted act for years to come. That would have been a better comparison.
God Bless

That was your original complaint, zcharry! He was making the point that people act out sexually, including protestant pastors with male hookers. You are correct to say that both are heinous sins and crimes. It has nothing to do with the gift of celibacy, is all. If people are going to act out sexually, they will do it no matter what their state, single, married, or celibate. In all cases, the person disobeys the commandments of God. The restrictions are His!

I agree you with that marriage has nothing to do with pedophilia.
But it has been proven that 75% men or the few select women, who are pedophiles married as a cover for there sickness or because of society norms.
I could go on with other facts, my work is in law enforcement, but
this is not the proper place to have this disscussion.

God Bless

You are right, we are way off topic, unless you think that Mary was also a pedophile!

If you know that marriage has nothing to do with pedophilia, then you must also know that celibacy has nothing to do with it either. Except that the Church has been used by some predators in order to gain access to victims. Whether or not the priest is married is irrelevant in this case.

 

[guanophore]

Hi my Christian friends!
I respect your religion nevertheless I would say that in my opinion the Christians have neither given the status to JesusYeshuaIssa nor to MaryMeriumMaryam they deserved on merit,

I have to note, paarsurrey, that one does not demonstrate respect by pandering lies.

only under unjustified and clever influence of Paul who robbed them of their truthful honor to establish his own hegemony over the simple people of that times called Christians, I am sorry to say, but that is a fact, to me.

Your facts are not consistent with history, then. Paul did not rob Mary or Jesus of any honor.

As Paul was disrespectful to Jesus’ disciples, he did not go to Jerusalem when they summoned him to clarify certain things, towing the same line he belittled Mary so much so that one does not find any account of her life after when JesusYeshuaIssa and MaryMeriumMaryam last met at Galilee.

Paul DID go to Jerusalem, more than once, and consulted with Jesus’ Apostles. He NEVER belittled Mary. He was not appointed to write the life of Mary, so He did not. He was not called to baptize, either, but he does not belittle it. He just knows that his charism is to preach and to teach.

They both were alive on a journey to far off lands among the lost ten tribes of the houe of Israel, but due to communication problems had lost contact with Jerusalem.In that positions Paul got Jesus cleverly ascended to heavens to pave his way for absolute hegemony over the church going people; and disciples and Mary he never cared about them.

I do not know where you got all this drivel. Is this what they teach you in Islam!?!?!

Jesus died on a cross. Mary stayed with John in Ephesus. The Apostles went to the lost tribes.

This might be because perhaps even the subsequest Popes who succeeded Paul did not know it, so much so that to rectify this grey patch, at a very late stage Pope Benedict XIV corroborated lately also by Pope Pius XII ; they invented the belief in the corporeal assumption of Mary and define it to be a divinely revealed dogma

The Popes did declare what has always been handed down to us through the Apostolic Tradition by the Church Fathers. They did not "invent"it . You are the one inventing stories here!

( now one could see how the NTGospels had been inspired/made up): that their Immaculate Mother of God, their ever Virgin Mary, having completed the course of her earthly life ( while they knew nothing about her historically, or if they knew they opted to conceal it from the public for their vested interests) was assumed body and soul into heavenly glory." The establishment of this dogma as “necessary to salvation” is widely taken to be an example of the Pope’s invoking papal infallibility (which in fact is a proof of Pope’s fallibility and his clear attempt at corrupting the Christian faith in the ages gone bye). So this is how Paul and Popes dealt with the Christianity; how cruel they had been to humanity?

You are really off your nut. What are you doing in here? Surelyl there is a forum you can frequent that has beliefs like yours?

Would the Christians now realize it, if they wake up from their great slumber of two thousands+ years!
But Quran is graceful and magnanimous, it not only gave a lofty status to JesusYeshuaIssa he deserved but in its own style Quran made Mary one of the highest example of the believers till the end of the world.
Thanks

I have not found all this drivel inside the Quran, but if that is where you are getting it…well.

 

[guanophore]

Who cares if she was a virgin or not? From Acts 1 to Jude, it didn’t matter. Their focus was on reconcilliation with God through Jesus Christ. Wether Mary had only one or she had a dozen, it doesn’t really matter.

If it does, why?

I think what matters more here kujo is the rejection of the teaching authority that God appointed for His Body, the Church. If it is not this dogma, it would be another. What matters is the rejection of the teaching of Jesus.

You may not like to admit it, but the truth is, without the Catholics, there would be no Bible for you to come around here, trying to whap somebody upside the head with it.
Them’s the facts. You all don’t get another choice.

Actually, there was already Greek versions of the New Testament. People in the 2nd century was quoting it.

Did you not realize they were written by Catholics?

Old Testament
“A virgin shall give birth…” nothing else about her.
“For unto us a child is born… he shall be called…” no mention of His mom.
“A lamb without spot or blemish”… no mention of the lamb’s mother.

Why? Don’t matter. It’s all about the Messiah.

It's not wether or not we accept Mary as our "mother", it's wether or not we accept God's Sacrificial Lamb, Jesus, as our Savior.

If you accept Mary as your “mother”, but are not born again, you will not see Heaven. BUT, if you do not accept Mary as your “mother” AND you are born again, you will see Heaven as promised by Jesus.

I’d rather see Jesus and kneel at His feet instead of saying, “I’m here to see ‘mom’”.

A person cannot do one without the other, kujo. That is why it is so critical to reject the teachings of Jesus. Jesus became man, the first of many brothers. If we are “in Christ”, then He is our brother, and Mary is our mother, because we are adopted. When you see Jesus and kneel at His feet, you will be kneeling next to Mary, so why wait?

 

[guanophore]

I must say that I find Kujo’s whole attitude smart-alecky and outrageously sacrilegious.
He does not merely display a neutrality toward Mary,
he manifests a loathing of her. A hostility that is not from God.
It’s as if he regards her as not much more than a lump of dung.
A hostility toward the kindest, gentlest, most godly woman
to ever walk this earth. A hostility toward a woman who is one of God’s most dear and beloved friends. That is truly sad.

Jaypeeto4
+JMJ+

I have been readng his posts, and I think it really is an issue.

If God made Mary free of sin, then Jesus’ death on the cross was not needed for Mary. That is blasphemous.

“There are none that can withstand your power” is wrong, too.

I’m tired of this man-made religion. The catholic denomination is man making God into his own image. If the pope declares Mary as “co-Mediatrix”, then it would contradict Scripture. The catholic religion is worse than Islam.

The successors to the Apostles cannot be trusted ...

The writings of those who came after the Apostles are their own version of what was said. Just as Eve misquoted God and Adam, your “popes” and “saints” misquote the Apostles. Maybe one of those guys really, REALLY loves his mommy and maybe was a “mommy’s boy.” He’d favor his mother and would of take his center of focus off of God and onto one of His creations. Your one person in Italy is quoting a “mommy’s boy” and not a Son who’s into His Father’s business.

Actually, can’t trust even the writings of those who followed the Apostles. There is no evidence that the Apostles called Mary their own mother, or ours either.

One follower of Peter had to have been a "mommy's boy" and had a special devotion to his own mother.  In hearing the Gospel, he'd listen to the "born of a virgin" part and paid closer attention to the "mommy" part of Jesus.

Your “pope” follows a “mommy’s boy” instead of the “Boy”. In the Law and Prophets, it’s perfectly clear that the virgin, the “sign” of the coming Messiah, was not to be worshipped or lifted up.

Reason I'm not Catholic (or ever will be)?   It defiled the Gospel 1900 years ago and has been doing it ever since.

The catholic religion, however, is off, an a different direction, about as much as the Jehovah's Witnesses: deceiving countless millions around the world.

    The use of the scapular brought to the RCC through an aparation of Mary is to be worn so the believer can escape Hell.  There is only ONE WAY.

Your denomination is "off".  Not as much as Islam, but it's still "off"... not following the narrow way.

I was told to wear a scapular to escape Hell when it’s the Blood of Jesus that washes away my sin.
I was praying to Mary and “saints” when Jesus says to pray directly to God in His Name. He said to ask for anything in His Name. I’m told I have to pray a “rosary”. WHY must I repeat a “Hail Mary” all those times? What’s the difference between a rosary and prayer beads used by other religions?

Being born again and filled with the Holy Spirit showed me that the Holy Spirit is being held back by traditions of men.

You see thousands of people rushing to see an office window because a smear looks like Mary. Others longed to see a grilled cheese sandwich. Actually, I think it’s a demon behind it just trying to make the “church” look stupid… and it’s working.

Does it matter to ANYBODY’S Salvation wether or not Mary remained a virgin? Or what DID happen to Joseph? Or where or how the disciples died?

Rosary beads isn’t as old as the RCC. “Prayer beads” have been used by other religions for years before.
Nuff said.

The “traditions” of the Apostles that I use are what was written in the New Testament and in Acts. THAT’S “Apostolic tradition”, NOT what THEIR followers said or did. The RCC claims that it put the Bible together yet it failed to include Jame’s claim that Mary’s tomb was empty. Why? It doesn’t matter just the same as if she remained a virgin or not. THAT’S your “traditions of men”.

My heart is on the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Is yours? Or should I be asking your mother instead?

Your religion and denomination has “warm and fuzzy feelings” too. That’s why they argue “HOW can Jesus come from an imperfect womb?” (mom = “warm and fuzzy”) That tangent should never exist.

(praying the rosary)
Not only did you prove that you’re ignorant, but your whole denomination belittled our Lord and His Work.
Shall I post more “doctrine of demons”, or “traditions of men (woman)”?