Question about Metamucil and Holy Communion

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ConstantineTG said:
Metamucil doesn’t have Drug Facts. It has nutrition facts. Does that count?
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Does THIS count?

Where can I find information on Metamucil sodium/potassium/calorie/
carbohydrate/fat/phenylalanine levels per dose?
You can consult our dosage and serving information page, the Physician’s Desk Reference (PDR), or the Physician’s Desk Reference for Nonprescription Drugs (NPDR) under the “Procter & Gamble” listing, or call the scientific communications manager at (800) 358-8707. If you choose the latter option, additional information is available on elements such as phosphorus and magnesium content.
source: metamucil.com/drmetamucil/faqs/index.shtml
 
FrDavid96 said:
Ok. You caught me.

I plead guilty!

I have the store brand knockoff in my medicine cabinet. That one has a box that says “Drug Facts”

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My apologies Father, my intention is not to make a show of you are wrong and I am right. The bottom line here is Metamucil does have health benefits for people and some need it more urgently than others. Like some people are prescribed to take certain foods more than others for health reasons, sometimes the difference is even life or death. Those can be considered medicinal as well. But if we know why we fast, then the question becomes easy. We don’t have to look for drug labels. As we know, our faith isn’t cut high and dry. A lot of right and wrong depends heavily on intent.
 
FrDavid96 said:
Does THIS count?

Where can I find information on Metamucil sodium/potassium/calorie/
carbohydrate/fat/phenylalanine levels per dose?
You can consult our dosage and serving information page, the Physician’s Desk Reference (PDR), or the Physician’s Desk Reference for Nonprescription Drugs (NPDR) under the “Procter & Gamble” listing, or call the scientific communications manager at (800) 358-8707. If you choose the latter option, additional information is available on elements such as phosphorus and magnesium content.
source: metamucil.com/drmetamucil/faqs/index.shtml
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I’m afraid Father that this will become into that extreme legalism that I was warning about at the top of this thread. Many things like Whey Protein shakes have the same warnings/dose prescriptions. And as you can see, it does not end scrupulosity.
 
ConstantineTG said:
I’m afraid Father that this will become into that extreme legalism that I was warning about at the top of this thread. Many things like Whey Protein shakes have the same warnings/dose prescriptions. And as you can see, it does not end scrupulosity.
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I suggest you read your own posts.

“Extreme legalism” and “scrupulosity” are certainly words I would use, at this point, to describe your incessant attempts to impose upon others your own ideas of how they should keep a different Communion fast than what the Church defines.
 
Ok, this has definitely passed well into the realm of ridiculousness. I do not know of anyone who takes Metamucil for fun or because it tastes good. Because it does not taste good! Ick.

Medicine does not violate the fast. It may be taken whenever it is needed. Whenever. Needed. Including before mass, if that is when it is needed to be taken.
 
Catholic90 said:
Ok, this has definitely passed well into the realm of ridiculousness. I do not know of anyone who takes Metamucil for fun or because it tastes good. Because it does not taste good! Ick.

Medicine does not violate the fast. It may be taken whenever it is needed. Whenever. Needed. Including before mass, if that is when it is needed to be taken.
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Well, Centrum doesn’t taste good either, but its not medicine.
 
Catholic90 said:
Ok, this has definitely passed well into the realm of ridiculousness. I do not know of anyone who takes Metamucil for fun or because it tastes good. Because it does not taste good! Ick.
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I don’t know, someone above mentioned a cookie or wafer form of the stuff that they enjoy for dessert. I think it would be incorrect for someone (I don’t mean that poster, for whom it serves as medication presumably) to eat those medicine cookies as a “legal” form of food during the fast. It would not be the right orientation of mind for me to eat that during a fast. I’d have to repent.

But I don’t think the ordinary person asking about metamucil is planning a cheap runaround.
 
FrDavid96 said:
I suggest you read your own posts.

“Extreme legalism” and “scrupulosity” are certainly words I would use, at this point, to describe your incessant attempts to impose upon others your own ideas of how they should keep a different Communion fast than what the Church defines.
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Legalism to what Father? I haven’t incessantly referred to canons or Church documents as such. I just plead to common sense and what has been taught generally in the Church as Fasting. And what is scrupulous about asking people to evaluate themselves and why and how they fast? Scrupulosity are those who are overtly concerned about doing wrong. What I ask it people to know what to do right. If there is a word for one who is scrupulous about doing right instead of doing wrong, then yes, that is me.
 
Pug said:
I don’t know, someone above mentioned a cookie or wafer form of the stuff that they enjoy for dessert. I think it would be incorrect for someone (I don’t mean that poster, for whom it serves as medication presumably) to eat those medicine cookies as a “legal” form of food during the fast. It would not be the right orientation of mind for me to eat that during a fast. I’d have to repent.

But I don’t think the ordinary person asking about metamucil is planning a cheap runaround.
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By the way, I’m in Canada. Do I dare bringing medicinal marijuana on the table?
 
centurionguard said:
U.S. Metamucil Drug Facts. drugs.com/mtm/metamucil.html

Canada bodyandhealth.canada.com/drug_info_details.asp?brand_name_id=5165
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Sounds like medicine. Plants, fiber, whatever, can be used as medicine too.

Look at tihs interesting tidbit:
What happens if I miss a dose?
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Since psyllium is used as needed, it does not have a daily dosing schedule. Call your doctor promptly if your symptoms do not improve after using psyllium.
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FrDavid96 said:
The reason is actually quite simple.

Your questions
“why does it have to be taken…?”
“why not just wait…?”

Are NOT questions that the Church asks. These are not criteria that the Church establishes for keeping the Communion fast. What the Church does in fact say is that medicine is excluded from the fast.

The Church says that medicine does not break the fast. Therefore, medicine simply does not break the fast, no matter what the motivation or the necessity, or the ability to wait, or anything else.

Let me give a parallel example:

If someone were to ask a question “can I go to Communion if I have not abstained from making a cell phone call for 1 hour before?” What would be the answer? Of course it would be that there is no such thing as a mandatory fast from cell phones before Communion. The same thing applies to medicine.

There is no such thing in the current laws of the Church as a* fast from medicine* before receiving Communion. It does not exist. Therefore, no one has any right to impose such a fast on anyone else.
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I am not even talking about that.

My point is more on the practical level.

This thread I find rather silly unless there is truly a disease where metamucil is indeed treated like a drug (where you take it at specific times and precise times) such that you couldn’t take it way before or even after mass.

It is only fibre for goodness sake. I doubt that delaying it for another hour or two will make a difference if one is uncertain.

And as I have said before, if you are one who has a quick reaction to this, then taking one before mass even if classified as drug, is still not advisable unless you want to leave in the middle of mass to go to the toilet.
 
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