Question for converts: What's your story?

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Wow! I was looking up “novus ordo” on a website, and they consider all the Popes since 1958 to not be true Popes. Does anyone have any insight in this?:confused:
I wouldn’t pay any attention to them whoever they are. They do not ‘run’ the Church, but I am sure they would like to, ha. Stay with the TRUE Church and the Pope, now Benedict XVI and ignore them.
I love the New Mass, I love hearing every word in a language I can understand. I grew up in the time of the Latin Mass and understood very little of what was said. My Mom and my Aunt explained what it meant but I still love hearing it in English. “They” will fizzel off into history, but the Catholic Church will still be here till the End of Time.

God Bless, Memaw
 
Memaw, I am a bit crushed at what I see happening to my precious convert thread…it seems now we have been polarized and forced to take sides, and I’m wondering what is your intent here on this thread?

It started as a breath of fresh air and a delight to read, as others have said. With all due respect, I’d like to say that this thread started for converts…to share our/their stories. There are plenty of threads here regarding what you and other cradle Catholics might want to bring to the table.

Let’s save this precious thread for converts to share stories. It was bringing life to me as I prepare to enter the CC. 🙂
I agree, we should get back on thread…, (I already said that.) I just answered questions about my life, ( if my memory serves me right, I think you were the one that asked the questions.) We’ born’ Catholics do have our conversion stories too. As Fr. Corapi says we are converting all our lives. And if that can help or encourage someone who is on the “Journey Home”, I am glad to share it. We should never be afraid to answer a converts questions. I don’t think anyone is forcing anyone to take sides. There is a true path to the Catholic Church and we should all seek it. We’re here to do GOD’S WILL, not ours. If we are sincerely seeking Unity, we will meet at the Alter. God Bless, Memaw
 
With love, I tend toward agreement with you, Memaw. As a recovering evangelical I love the quiet in the Catholic Church. No longer must I “perform” with gestures, facial expressions, words, loud singing, etc. to “show” my relationship to the Lord to others. I think a church service is about the “vertical” relationship with God, not the “horizontal” relationship with others. There are other times for fellowship, and if we are serious about that, we will make the time for it rather than expecting it at Mass. I love fellowship and I have wonderful Catholic friends who are easing my way into becoming a Catholic. Their respect and love for the mass and the sanctuary is part of that!

I do not expect or want to be entertained in church. When I went to Prot. church, with all the entertainment, I was forever looking at my watch. Now that I go to Catholic church, I never look at my watch and once as a result was late to meet my husband after our respective churches!

Evangelicals would typically raise their eyebrows when I told them that no one person “led me to the Lord”, because this is the pattern they expect. In my case, as the child of a secular Jewish family, I always wanted to know about God. This desire grew and took me through much reading and searching until at 33 I found myself seriously ill, hospitalized and helpless. So much for my pride. I asked for a Bible to be brought to me, and there in the hospital room, I gave my life to Jesus Christ. He was my Friend, and I had the most beautiful fellowship with Him. There have been times in my life when God was all I had, and I’ve kind of gotten used to that, I guess that was where He wanted me.

There is nothing wrong with enjoying fellowship. “Seek ye first the Kingdom of God, and His righteousness, and all these things will be added unto you.”

Love, L.H.
I agree, there is nothing wrong with enjoying fellowship, and I do plenty of that!!! But not in Church where folks are praying in the presence of OUR LORD. There is a time and a place for fellowship.

Right again, Seek ye FIRST the Kingdom of GOD. We are seeking to do that as we prepare for Holy Mass. God Bless, Memaw
 
Memaw,
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*You wrote: ** The Mass belongs to the Church and should be done according to the rubrics of the Catholic Church and nothing else. Converts should know and understand this. Those doing the Mass otherwise are not following the Rubics of the Mass and only cause confusion among its followers. There is no “to each his own,” when it comes to the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.

Yes, Memaw, that is a very good point, the truly essential one, I would think! To flout the rubrics is to be in rebellion with the mind of the Church, which is to say, not to be very Catholic at all! I wish that the clergy would learn this as well as the laity should. I find, for example, that so much of the liturgy is omitted, skipped over, at Mass. Lord knows, the Novus Ordo is a stripped-down liturgy even at its fullest! How I miss the propers (all of them) of the 1962 Missale Romanum! To make omissions beyond what the revisers did so hurtfully reduces the Mass to a quickie formula.

There is plenty of room within the rubrics for ligitimate variety, piety, and expression. One does not have to tinker with the liturgy for a priest or bishop to show his supposed and overly vaunted originality and verve! How much we all would benefit if priests took the time and made the effort to preach really solid sermons, instead of to “monkey with” the rubrics and words of the Holy Liturgy. How much more we laity would benefit from good and learnedly orthodox preaching (which takes time, effort, and, yes, better education than characterises most clergy) than from too much unwanted “originality” in liturgics.

Jerry Parker
 
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Hi Jerry (and Memaw, Luminous, and Moen)!

I’ve been away for awhile. I’ve had some deaths in my family which as taken up a lot of time. I have several relatives in their late 90s, so that is to be expected.
Hi Marcylee, I’m very sorry to hear about deaths in your family. I hope you find the quiet time with the Lord to process whatever you need to. Last Thursday I attended the Jewish funeral of the husband of a friend of mine. The synagogue was mobbed–he really was a great man–and the service was two hours. I am comforted as a friend has told me I can ask for a Mass on his behalf, though he was obviously not a Catholic. God Bless, L.H.
 
Wow! I was looking up “novus ordo” on a website, and they consider all the Popes since 1958 to not be true Popes. Does anyone have any insight in this?:confused:
There is some website called “novusordowatch.com” that is obviously against anything that the catholic church has done since 1958.
 
Best thing to do is ignore them!!! Memaw
This quote was referring to some group that was against the “Novus Ordo”. As a convert in process I can see that there is a lot of pain out there regarding Vatican II, the Latin Mass, etc. This grieves me as I just left Protestantism where there are 33,000denominations, might as well be 33 million, all because people have to have their way and be “right.” I thank God that the Catholic Church has a hierarchy and has procedures to deal with schism. I think the Pope absolutely did the right thing lifting the excommunication of the 4 bishops. How can you discipline and rehabilitate someone who is outside your authority?

Dear Moen, these matters can’t help but touch our conversion experience and process, since we are adults who notice what is going on around us. However, this is not what I want to think or worry about, and I refuse to do so or get involved in controversy. The Mass I attend is in English, and it feeds my soul very much.

In Christian love to all,

Luminous Hope
 
Luminous Hope and Memaw,

L.H., you wrote: I think the Pope absolutely did the right thing lifting the excommunication of the 4 bishops. How can you discipline and rehabilitate someone who is outside your authority?

The Pope did a fine thing, in extending the right to use the 1962 Missale Romanum, which removes one of the grounds of dissension that had divided the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) from unity with the Roman Catholic Church. Now the 1962 Latin Mass of that Missale Romanum and the Novus Ordo (which Benedict XVI is trying to purge of the corruptions that have beset it) can exist side by side.

As for the SSPX bishops, nobody should oppress them in the Church, just because so many Jews go into a snit over what one of them has said about their cherished Holocaust, with all of the attendant urban legend exaggerations of the grossest sort. Fellowship with the Church is not broken by differing stances about such matters, not should it be.

Jerry Parker
 
The Lord’s Ranch is a Catholic ministry in dirt-poor Mexico. Their worship is light years different than what you speak of as reverent. I’ve seen video------they dance, hold hands, sing loudly…and there’s an openess and smiles everywhere. Different nations worship differently, some loud, some quiet.
And you can’t pretend to know how the liturgy is said in a predominantly Catholic country for over 400 years by watching a single video of what seems to be a Charismatic Mass in Mexico.

:blessyou:
 
Yesterday I suggested that we were getting “far afield” from the purpose of this thread which is for people to share their conversion stories. The discussion turned to how Mass should be properly conducted, which led to “lively” exchanges between traditionalists versus those who are somewhat, shall we say, less traditional. One particular traditionalist even went so far as describing a non-traditional Mass as “bustling and hullabuloo.” Wow. Those are harsh words, not to mention wholly inaccurate. How about joy-filled? And, the same traditionalist used equally incendiary language speaking of the Jews “cherished Holocaust” as well as “urban legend exaggerations of the grossest sort.” Wow and wow!! Dear Mr. Traditionalist, would you care to expound on that? Cherished? Exaggerated? Unbelievable. Lest we forget, our salvation is from the Jews, brother. Now, all that said, let’s get back to celebrating conversion stories rather than getting off on tangents. Save your religious politics for the water cooler.
 
Yesterday I suggested that we were getting “far afield” from the purpose of this thread which is for people to share their conversion stories. The discussion turned to how Mass should be properly conducted, which led to “lively” exchanges between traditionalists versus those who are somewhat, shall we say, less traditional. One particular traditionalist even went so far as describing a non-traditional Mass as “bustling and hullabuloo.” Wow. Those are harsh words, not to mention wholly inaccurate. How about joy-filled? And, the same traditionalist used equally incendiary language speaking of the Jews “cherished Holocaust” as well as “urban legend exaggerations of the grossest sort.” Wow and wow!! Dear Mr. Traditionalist, would you care to expound on that? Cherished? Exaggerated? Unbelievable. Lest we forget, our salvation is from the Jews, brother. Now, all that said, let’s get back to celebrating conversion stories rather than getting off on tangents. Save your religious politics for the water cooler.
Thank you and God bless you. I am 100% Jewish by birth and was deeply offended and hurt by the post in question, though I hope I would have had the same reaction with no Jewish blood at all. I don’t want to see “Mr. Traditionalist…expound on that”, though. I don’t want to hear any more about it, certainly not on a Catholic site on a thread about conversion. My point in bringing up the 4 bishops was to praise the Catholic church for its unity, which is very relevant to my desire to convert. I certainly did not intend to elicit…that! Blessings, L.H.
 
Hi Marcylee, I’m very sorry to hear about deaths in your family. I hope you find the quiet time with the Lord to process whatever you need to. Last Thursday I attended the Jewish funeral of the husband of a friend of mine. The synagogue was mobbed–he really was a great man–and the service was two hours. I am comforted as a friend has told me I can ask for a Mass on his behalf, though he was obviously not a Catholic. God Bless, L.H.
Thanks, Luminous. I was at another funeral today. It is very heart-rending.

This thread is getting very confusing. I don’t understand certain terms people are using. I thought this was a place for new comers to the Catholic faith, but it seems to be becoming a place for theological discussions. I don’t know if I’ll hang out much more. I’m trying to learn and understand the teachings of the Catholic church and hear about other people’s conversion stories. But I would also like to hear from Catholics who want to communicate the teachings. I think we all need to learn from each other.

God Bless, Marcylee
 
The topic of this thread is "Question for converts: What’s your story?"

Please let’s keep this thread on-topic. Start a new thread in the appropriate forum to discuss the other matters such as the charismatic movement in the church, traditional catholicism, novus ordo, etc.
 
The topic of this thread is "Question for converts: What’s your story?"

Please let’s keep this thread on-topic. Start a new thread in the appropriate forum to discuss the other matters such as the charismatic movement in the church, traditional catholicism, novus ordo, etc.
Thanks, Angela! I was getting really confused.
 
What a wonderful topic for this forum! I’m happy to share my story with you!

I was first introduced to the Church early in college because the young man I was dating was Catholic. I started attending Mass with his family on Saturdays, and he started attending services at my family’s Baptist church on Sundays. In attending Mass with his family, I began to ask questions about the Church, and found answers in my faith that were left open-ended by the Baptist church in which I’d been raised. In short, the Catholic Church seemed to simply make sense to me.

When he and I got engaged, I was getting ready to move to my mother’s house (she and my father are divorced) to continue my college education. That fall, I joined the local RCIA class.

Each week in RCIA, I found myself falling more and more in love with the Church. So many questions were answered for me, and it’s such a rich, beautiful practice! Every time I stepped into the church for Masses, I felt completely at peace. I finally felt, spiritually, that I was home!

I was baptized in the Baptist church previously, but at Easter Vigil 2004, I was brought into full communion in the Catholic Church.

There have been a few times since then, sadly, that I’ve withdrawn somewhat from the Church, but I’m happy to say that now I feel stronger in my faith than I ever have!
Oh! That is such a great story! I hope you keep going forward with the Faith. I was baptized Protestant, but have found my home in the Catholic faith, as well. I will be received into the Church at Easter vigil this year. Please think of me at your Easter vigil, and hopefully it will remind you of how special it was for you when you were confirmed in 2004.

God Bless, Marcylee
 
Oh! That is such a great story! I hope you keep going forward with the Faith. I was baptized Protestant, but have found my home in the Catholic faith, as well. I will be received into the Church at Easter vigil this year. Please think of me at your Easter vigil, and hopefully it will remind you of how special it was for you when you were confirmed in 2004.

God Bless, Marcylee
Thank you!

I will think of you at Easter Vigil! What a wonderful journey you’re on! I remember how excited I was during Lent in 2004–it was a very special time for me as I prepared to be received into the Church.

Dear Lord, please be with Marcylee during this Lenten season. She will soon be in full communion with the Church at Easter Vigil, and I know what an exciting, important time it is for her. Please help prepare her heart for the next step on her faith journey. Amen.
 
I am not a convert but my mom was. She had a wonderful story.

She and some friends went to a bowling alley for some fun one evening. This was back in the 1940’s. There she was introduced to a man named “Butch” who mom said was handsome and a fun guy.

Sometime later, mom saw “Butch” from a distance in a department store, and yelled “hey Butch” to him through the crowd. As they approached each other, mom noticed that “Butch” had a roman collar. As she saw this, she was mortified, and apologized profusely. “Father Butch” told her is was no big deal and put her at ease.

Anyway, they became friends, one thing led to another, and Father Butch gave her instruction in the faith, and she was brought into the Church.

Pretty cool.
 
… All those things that I thought were distractions from the Cross actually lead us back to the Cross. Holy water reminds us of our Baptism. Candles remind us that the Lord is a lamp unto our feet and a light unto our path. Incense rising up remind us of our prayers rising up to the Lord. Statues of Saints remind us of those who gave the ultimate sacrifice for the sake of the Church. As for Mary, she is not worshipped as so many non-Catholics think, rather venerated as one might hold up one’s own mother in the highest regard. Yes, bit by bit I started connecting the dots and understanding why Catholics do what they do at Mass…“Our Jewish Roots.” I thought to myself, “By golly, they have it right!” But what about the Eucharist? As a young person we had communion perhaps on the first Sunday of every month and it was very reverent, but only symbolic. What was the big deal about Communion in the Catholic Church, then? I found out the answer to that question at the RCIA retreat in Prescott, Az about one month before coming into the Church at the Easter Vigil, 2005. A deacon explained what goes on every time a priest consecrates the Host which has a funny name called Epiclesis. The priest calls down the Holy Spirit to transform the elements into the Real Presence of Christ. For a nano-second I thought to myself, this is just some hocus- pocus. However, in the very next nano-second, I had to accept it because by denying Transubstantiation, I would be denying the power of the Holy Spirit which is something that I absolutely could not and would not do under any circumstance. Once I came to the stunning realization of the Real Presence, it changed my life from that point forward. No longer was communion ever going to be merely symbolic. Rather, every time I accepted Communion in a worthy fashion, I abided with the promise that Christ lived in me, and I lived in Him. Therefore, and henceforth, I had a DUTY to be a 24/7 Christian, as opposed to a one-day-a-week Christian. That was nearly four years ago and now as I approach my 65th birthday, I can honestly testify that I still love celebrating Mass and try to approach each Mass as if it’s my first one, as if it’s my last one, as if it’s my only one, in order to keep it fresh. Also, as a priest once observed during a homily, “No one ever said being Catholic would be easy. If you want something easy, become Unitarian.” (Editorial note: my brother is.) Other helpful aids during the course of my RCIA journey included Scott Hahn’s conversion cd, or any book written by him, as well as “Surprised ByTruth,” a compilation of conversion stories put together by Patrick Madrid. Now I attend Mass as often as possible, take Communion to the infirmed as a Minister of Care, attend an ecumenical Bible study, etc. Funny thing is that my wife now thinks I am “too Catholic.” Just trying to make up for lost time, honey.
This is one of the best explanations for a convert (or nominal Catholic) I have ever read. I would encourage you to expound on this and put in booklet form or something and offer for your church’s resource table, or whatever they have for that kind of thing…OR maybe send off for publication. It answers clearly the hurdles for those of us who ask and really want more than “just accept it, you don’t have to understand it.” The more I dig into the history of the saints, the “whys” as to the traditions, and especially the way God has held the CC together for lo these many years, my eyes become more and more and more open to the beauty of His Church.

It’s funny. My son loves basketball, and on one of his Celtics DVDs one of the players speaks of their HUGE victory and turnaround for the championship in 2008, from “bottom of the ocean” for so many years then back to being #1. He says that there’s an “ancient” known fact in basketball: **“Offense sells tickets, but defense wins championships.” **" About a week ago the thought ran through my mind as this could also relate to the big-name televangelists, the ones who later were found out to have taken lots of $ or have fallen morally or this or that, and that the Christian big names may draw crowds, but if you simply look at the 2000-yr old CC hanging in there still, it speaks volumes to those who simply look at it.🙂
 
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