Question for our Protestant friends

[lyle]

Sometimes I think people confuse “redemption” with “salvation”. Christ died, once, for all. That is redemption. He paid the price. The gates of heaven were opened once again and because of Christ’s passion, death and resurrection all of mankind has the opportunity to spend eternity with God as his adopted sons and daughters. Redemption required nothing on the part of man.

Salvation is quite another issue. It requires a response by man to the saving grace that God has made available through Christ’s redemption. Our response to God’s grace is the deciding factor in whether or not we are saved. And this response is not limited to a one time moment of sincerity, but is an ongoing requirement. We can always choose to reject God’s grace, even after accepting it at one point in our lives. That is why, like Paul, we work out our salvation with fear and trembling.

I see what you are saying but my understanding is that they both redemption and salvation are one work for if I am redeemed then surely my debt has been paid so therefore I would be saved. In theology, the purchase of God’s favor by the death and sufferings of Christ; the ransom or deliverance of sinners from the bondage of sin and the penalties of God’s violated law by the atonement of Christ.
Eph 1:7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the remission of sins, according to the riches of his, grace,
Appropriately in theology, the redemption of man from the bondage of sin and liability to eternal death, and the conferring on him everlasting happiness. This is the great salvation.

 

[SteveVH]

I see what you are saying but my understanding is that they both redemption and salvation are one work for if I am redeemed then surely my debt has been paid so therefore I would be saved.

Not so. Are you not a being with free will who has the ability to reject the gift. Not all who have been redeemed will be saved. Christ paid the price for all of mankind but we know that not all of mankind will be saved. As I said, salvation requires our response and our perseverance to the end. Some do not agree to the terms of changing their lives; turning away from sin and toward God. They prefer to do it “their way” and God does not interfere in that decision. If they choose a life without God then that is exactly what they get, forever.

In theology, the purchase of God’s favor by the death and sufferings of Christ; the ransom or deliverance of sinners from the bondage of sin and the penalties of God’s violated law by the atonement of Christ.
Eph 1:7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the remission of sins, according to the riches of his, grace,
Appropriately in theology, the redemption of man from the bondage of sin and liability to eternal death, and the conferring on him everlasting happiness. This is the great salvation.

Except that you just added the bolded section of your comment as if it was part of the verse. Ephesians is speaking of exactly what I have explained. We are redeemed by Christ’s blood and sins are forgiven through the richness of his grace, but it says nothing of “conferring on him everlasting happiness”. That is the salvation part. If what you say is true, that redemption = salvation, then no one need believe anything or live under any moral code. We know that Christ died for all of mankind, therefore all of mankind must be saved regardless of belief or how evil their lives may be. We know this is not the case.

 

[lyle]

Not so. Are you not a being with free will who has the ability to reject the gift. Not all who have been redeemed will be saved. Christ paid the price for all of mankind but we know that not all of mankind will be saved. As I said, salvation requires our response and our perseverance to the end. Some do not agree to the terms of changing their lives; turning away from sin and toward God. They prefer to do it “their way” and God does not interfere in that decision. If they choose a life without God then that is exactly what they get, forever.

Except that you just added the bolded section of your comment as if it was part of the verse. Ephesians is speaking of exactly what I have explained. We are redeemed by Christ’s blood and sins are forgiven through the richness of his grace, but it says nothing of “conferring on him everlasting happiness”. That is the salvation part. If what you say is true, that redemption = salvation, then no one need believe anything or live under any moral code. We know that Christ died for all of mankind, therefore all of mankind must be saved regardless of belief or how evil their lives may be. We know this is not the case.

First let me say that I don’t mean to be offensive, if I am I ask your forgiveness.
So are you saying that Christ redemptive work has no power to save unless I do something to be saved? It dosent make sense to me, because the Bible says theres is nothing I can do to win Gods salvation. It says that Christ is my rightousness, its on Him (Christ) that I fully rely (believe) on for my salvation. I’m not saved because of my will but because of Gods will. St. John 1: 12-13. This belief or faith that I have was given to me from God. It is a free gift. This gift has caused me to turn from my sins an to look fully to Jesus Christ for my salvation.

Conferring = free gift, to have eternal life is everlasting happiness. Finish reading the rest of Eph. chapter 1. Im sorry about the bolded section. Where in the Bible dose it say that Jesus died for every single man? Again if I offend in any way I apologize.

 

[1AugustSon7]

First let me say that I don’t mean to be offensive, if I am I ask your forgiveness.
So are you saying that Christ redemptive work has no power to save unless I do something to be saved? It dosent make sense to me, because the Bible says theres is nothing I can do to win Gods salvation. It says that Christ is my rightousness, its on Him (Christ) that I fully rely (believe) on for my salvation. I’m not saved because of my will but because of Gods will. St. John 1: 12-13. This belief or faith that I have was given to me from God. It is a free gift. This gift has caused me to turn from my sins an to look fully to Jesus Christ for my salvation.

Conferring = free gift, to have eternal life is everlasting happiness. Finish reading the rest of Eph. chapter 1. Im sorry about the bolded section. Where in the Bible dose it say that Jesus died for every single man? Again if I offend in any way I apologize.

“These things were written for our instruction.”

Exodus: [3] Speak ye to the whole assembly of the children of Israel, and say to them: On the tenth day of this month let every man take a lamb by their families and houses.

[6] And you shall keep it until the fourteenth day of this month: and the whole multitude of the children of Israel shall sacrifice it in the evening. …

[11] And thus you shall eat it: you shall gird your reins, and you shall have shoes on your feet, holding staves in your hands, and you shall eat in haste: for it is the Phase (that is the Passage) of the Lord. [12] And I will pass through the land of Egypt that night, and will kill every firstborn in the land of Egypt both man and beast: and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgments: I am the Lord. [13] And the blood shall be unto you for a sign in the houses where you shall be: and I shall see the blood, and shall pass over you:** and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I shall strike the land of Egypt.** [14] And this day shall be for a memorial to you: and you shall keep it a feast to the Lord in your generations with an everlasting observance.

Compare with:

Luke: [15] And he said to them: With desire I have desired to eat this pasch with you, before I suffer.

[16] For I say to you, that from this time I will not eat it, till it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God. [17] And having taken the chalice, he gave thanks, and said: Take, and divide it among you: [18] For I say to you, that I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, till the kingdom of God come. [19] And taking bread, he gave thanks, and brake; and gave to them, saying: This is my body, which is given for you. Do this for a commemoration of me. [20] In like manner the chalice also, after he had supped, saying: This is the chalice, the new testament in my blood, which shall be shed for you.

 

[lyle]

“These things were written for our instruction.”
Exodus: [3] Speak ye to the whole assembly of the children of Israel, and say to them: On the tenth day of this month let every man take a lamb by their families and houses.

[6] And you shall keep it until the fourteenth day of this month: and the whole multitude of the children of Israel shall sacrifice it in the evening. …

[11] And thus you shall eat it: you shall gird your reins, and you shall have shoes on your feet, holding staves in your hands, and you shall eat in haste: for it is the Phase (that is the Passage) of the Lord. [12] And I will pass through the land of Egypt that night, and will kill every firstborn in the land of Egypt both man and beast: and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgments: I am the Lord. [13] And the blood shall be unto you for a sign in the houses where you shall be: and I shall see the blood, and shall pass over you:** and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I shall strike the land of Egypt.** [14] And this day shall be for a memorial to you: and you shall keep it a feast to the Lord in your generations with an everlasting observance.

Compare with:

Luke: [15] And he said to them: With desire I have desired to eat this pasch with you, before I suffer.

[16] For I say to you, that from this time I will not eat it, till it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God. [17] And having taken the chalice, he gave thanks, and said: Take, and divide it among you: [18] For I say to you, that I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, till the kingdom of God come. [19] And taking bread, he gave thanks, and brake; and gave to them, saying: This is my body, which is given for you. Do this for a commemoration of me. [20] In like manner the chalice also, after he had supped, saying: This is the chalice, the new testament in my blood, which shall be shed for you.

amen

 

[Woody87]

You would do yourself a great service to stay on topic. My first statement was meant to be something like what I believe the Gospel to be. Not a completely airtight theological statement. Your refusal to stay on topic is incessant.
I am not going to discuss predestination to you even though it is in the bible. You are assuming you know what I believe about predestination,you don’t.
In the case of the whole redemption thing are you not making a heretical error that was cleared up long ago I think the guy who started it was Pelagius. I am referring to your comment that redemption applies to every soul(not a direct quote). Unless I am misunderstanding what you are trying to say.
Since you never properly defined Salvation I can’t correct you on that as well. Your argument that comes from is wrong and that through is the proper term is splitting hairs to the nth degree especially when you never describe why my way of stating it is wrong and yours is right.

The verses I would use to support Sola fide are Rom 3:22-end , the first part of 4, 5:1, 11:5-6 Eph 2 the begining. Like I was trying to say you are not going to interpret these verses the way I do. These are most likely verses you have seen as proof before and rejected them.

Please with the all caps it makes you look stupid using them to make you point. It is kind of like your reasons aren’t good enough so you have TO MAKE THEM ALL HUGE LIKE YOU ARE yelling OR something RETARDED like THAT. Do you see what I mean and it’s super annoying.

 

[SteveVH]

First let me say that I don’t mean to be offensive, if I am I ask your forgiveness.

Not offensive in the least and I’m sorry if I gave you that impression.

So are you saying that Christ redemptive work has no power to save unless I do something to be saved?

No I haven’t said that at all. Christ’s redemptive work is done. The price has been paid in full. But this is where you confuse redemption and salvation. To make my point, Do you agree that Christ died once, for all? Not just some, but for all? Now, do you believe that all will be saved. regardless of what they believe or what they do? If redemption is salvation then all are saved no matter what.

It dosent make sense to me, because the Bible says theres is nothing I can do to win Gods salvation. It says that Christ is my rightousness, its on Him (Christ) that I fully rely (believe) on for my salvation. I’m not saved because of my will but because of Gods will. St. John 1: 12-13. This belief or faith that I have was given to me from God. It is a free gift. This gift has caused me to turn from my sins an to look fully to Jesus Christ for my salvation.

*“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
“Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

“The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’ “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’"* (Matt 25:34-43)

Conferring = free gift, to have eternal life is everlasting happiness. Finish reading the rest of Eph. chapter 1. Im sorry about the bolded section. Where in the Bible dose it say that Jesus died for every single man? Again if I offend in any way I apologize.

“For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God.” (1 Peter 3:18)

 

[Woody87]

I would very much like to here your definition of redemption

 

[SteveVH]

I would very much like to here your definition of redemption

From a previous post of mine:

Originally posted by SteveVH
Christ died, once, for all. That is redemption. He paid the price. The gates of heaven were opened once again and because of Christ’s passion, death and resurrection all of mankind has the opportunity to spend eternity with God as his adopted sons and daughters. Redemption required nothing on the part of man.

 

[PJM]

=lyle;9827279]I see what you are saying but my understanding is that they both redemption and salvation are one work for if I am redeemed then surely my debt has been paid so therefore I would be saved. In theology, the purchase of God’s favor by the death and sufferings of Christ; the ransom or deliverance of sinners from the bondage of sin and the penalties of God’s violated law by the atonement of Christ.
Eph 1:7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the remission of sins, according to the riches of his, grace,
Appropriately in theology, the redemption of man from the bondage of sin and liability to eternal death, and the conferring on him everlasting happiness. This is the great salvation.

Actually NOT

“Redemption” applies rightly and justly to ALL humanity; past, present and furture. Surely salvation can’t have trhe same application.

**Revelation 5:9 **“And they sung a new canticle, saying: Thou art worthy, O Lord, to take the book, and to open the seals thereof; because thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us [means everyone] to God, in thy blood, out of every tribe, and tongue, and people, and nation”

**Matthew 26:28 **"For this is my blood of the new testament, which shall be shed for many unto remission of sins" …**Matthew 20:16 **"So shall the last be first, and the first last. For many are called, but few chosen.

So “Redemption” is for “all” and is an accomplished FACT with nothing due on our part. God did it all by Himself out of Love.

Salvation on the other hand is a multi-step process, that requires Effort, work and sacrifice on our part. WE CAN KNOW THIS BECAUSE GOD TELLS US THIS IN HIS INSPIRED AND PROTECTED WORD.

Luke.9: 23 And he said to all, "If any man would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me. Luke.14: 7 Whoever does not bear his own cross and come after me, cannot be my disciple.” [means CAN’T Gain Heaven].

The presumptive and foolish notion that God would become Incarnate, and SUFFER as he did and not require sufering from ALL of us is simplt foolish nosense.

Isa.29: 16 ” "You turn things upside down! Shall the potter be regarded as the clay; that the thing made should say of its maker, “He did not make me”; or the thing formed say of him who formed it, “He has no understanding”?

**1Pet.4: 13 **” But rejoice in so far as you share Christ’s sufferings, that you may also rejoice and be glad when his glory is revealed.

Phil.1: 29 “For it has been granted to you that for the sake of Christ you should not only believe in him but also suffer for his sake, “

Salvation is a PROCESS that demands at least ALL of the following steps

1. Grace and through it Faith is a POSSIBILITY not a guarentee. Rom.5:1-2 “Therefore, since we are justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Through him we have obtained access to this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in our hope of sharing the glory of God.” Eph.2: 8 “For by grace you have been saved through faith; and this is not your own doing, it is the gift of God”
2. Baptism John 3: 5 “Jesus answered: Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God”

3.Obedience to ALL of the Commandments [do Protestants like Catholics HAVE TO attend “Sabath Services” every week? **Exo 20:8 "Remember that thou keep holy the sabbath day. [The 4th. Commandment] **Mt. 19:17 **"And he said to him, “… If you would enter life, keep the commandments.”

1. Obedience to the CC as thee Authority Christ choose and set up **Romans 13: 1-4 **“Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore he who resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment… [Jesus commands His Apostles]

**Acts.20: 28 “**Take heed to yourselves and to all the flock,[singular] in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God [SINGULAR] which he obtained with the blood of his own Son.”

1. Die w/o unconfessed / unforgiven mortal sins 1st.Jn1:8-10, 1st.Jn.5;16-17, and John 20:22-23. Despite what you have been taught Christ DEAMNDS it be done HIS WAY!

**AGAIN Jesus to ONLY His Apostles Jn.20:22-23 **"] He said therefore to them again: Peace be to you. As the Father hath sent me, I also send you.[meas WITH MY AUTHORITY] When he had said this, he breathed on them; and he said to them: Receive ye the Holy Ghost.Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.

1. Works of Chairty to PROVE ones Faith

Matthew 5:48 “Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect”

Rev.2: 23 “and I will strike her children dead. And all the churches shall know that I am he who searches mind and heart, and I will give to each of you as your works deserve.”

1 Peter 1: 17 “Now if you invoke as Father him who judges impartially according to each one’s works, conduct yourselves with reverence during the time of your sojourning,

God Bless you my friend,
pat/PJM

 

[Woody87]

PJM
Your interpretation of Rev5 while being nice is not what is implied at all. us [means everyone] is wrong. I am assuming that there is a word in whatever language this was received in for all and all does mean everyone, wouldn’t all be a better word here. I looked for posterity at my interlinear bible and It wasn’t either said or implied that everyone is redeemed, maybe they are in your definition of the word. I still have some research to do to figure out what I think these words mean. For Mat 20 &26 many is also not all. Many actually implies some exclusion or inclusion where certain people in this case are left out or welcomed in.

Be careful my brother not to say “You fool” to me for you will be damnable to hell. Jk

Phil1:29 is the only one that actually makes the point you want to so it should be first. So you can view the rest in cohesion with the first. I know you probably wanted that knockout punch to be last but it reads weak to me until then.

1. you are quoting scripture that does not prove your point it can imply your point but to me seems like a strech
2. What version of the bible are you using? You chould consider changing bibles the one you used to quote is seriously wrong. I could tell you a reason why it might have said water but you will not agree with it

3.You are missing the whole of Mat 19 starting around v15. Second thing is yes my church has weekly services, although I do not always attend. I think you are crazy is you think that I should follow all 600 someodd commandments. What makes going to church keeping it holy I can keep the sabbath holy even if I do not go to church. Anyway I don’t even think that catholics accept protestant church services as fulfilling the requirements for the sacrifice of mass. Lastly as far as I can tell catholics are not required to keep the Sabbath holy. You keep the Lord’s day holy not the sabbath. The sabbath is on saturday and all of the twisting of scripture in your arsenal cannot refute or change this fact.

Only his apostles really are you that F***ing daft

I don’t even feel like getting into all these arguments there are to many to count. It will just keep going on and on I don’t have the time for it

**I will discuss only one thing with you from know on and only if it isn’t capitalized like you insist on doing. **

 

[Richca]

Sometimes I think people confuse “redemption” with “salvation”. Christ died, once, for all. That is redemption. He paid the price. The gates of heaven were opened once again and because of Christ’s passion, death and resurrection all of mankind has the opportunity to spend eternity with God as his adopted sons and daughters. Redemption required nothing on the part of man.

Salvation is quite another issue. It requires a response by man to the saving grace that God has made available through Christ’s redemption. Our response to God’s grace is the deciding factor in whether or not we are saved. And this response is not limited to a one time moment of sincerity, but is an ongoing requirement. We can always choose to reject God’s grace, even after accepting it at one point in our lives. That is why, like Paul, we work out our salvation with fear and trembling.

This is very good

 

[Woody87]

I think i finally figured out what I believe to be the difference between redemption and salvation.

Redemption is not for everyone actually if you would read the verses that at least have the word redemption in them you should see that it is for those predestined or called if you have a huge problem with the word predestined. Redemption is offered to all. This is a completely different idea than applying to all.

The problem I have with your explanation of your definition is that if it is true then Christ sacrifice covers everyones sins. If it covers everyones sins then how are they(Non-Christians) to be judged? We as christian have to account for our sins but are not held to judgement for them. I do not mean to open up a discussion of purgatory it might be necessary though.

These are my references: Rom 3:24, 8:23 , 1Cor 1:30 , Eph 1:7,14 , 4:30 , Col 1:14 , Heb 9:15

PJM try not to be to mad with me. I sometimes try to incite arguments. It is an old habbit. I hope you do not take offense to anything I said to you

 

[Woody87]

PJM
Your interpretation of Rev5 while being nice is not what is implied at all. us [means everyone] is wrong. I am assuming that there is a word in whatever language this was received in for all and all does mean everyone, wouldn’t all be a better word here. I looked for posterity at my interlinear bible and It wasn’t either said or implied that everyone is redeemed, maybe they are in your definition of the word. I still have some research to do to figure out what I think these words mean. For Mat 20 &26 many is also not all. Many actually implies some exclusion or inclusion where certain people in this case are left out or welcomed in.

Be careful my brother not to say “You fool” to me for you will be damnable to hell. Jk

Phil1:29 is the only one that actually makes the point you want to so it should be first. So you can view the rest in cohesion with the first. I know you probably wanted that knockout punch to be last but it reads weak to me until then.

1. you are quoting scripture that does not prove your point it can imply your point but to me seems like a strech
2. What version of the bible are you using? You chould consider changing bibles the one you used to quote is seriously wrong. I could tell you a reason why it might have said water but you will not agree with it

3.You are missing the whole of Mat 19 starting around v15. Second thing is yes my church has weekly services, although I do not always attend. I think you are crazy is you think that I should follow all 600 someodd commandments. What makes going to church keeping it holy I can keep the sabbath holy even if I do not go to church. Anyway I don’t even think that catholics accept protestant church services as fulfilling the requirements for the sacrifice of mass. Lastly as far as I can tell catholics are not required to keep the Sabbath holy. You keep the Lord’s day holy not the sabbath.

I don’t even feel like getting into all these arguments there are to many to count. It will just keep going on and on I don’t have the time for it

I will discuss only one thing with you from know on and only if it isn’t capitalized like you insist on doing. I have censored this message for all those who are easily offended

 

[BrianGular]

So are you saying that Christ redemptive work has no power to save unless I do something to be saved? It dosent make sense to me, because the Bible says theres is nothing I can do to win Gods salvation. It says that Christ is my rightousness, its on Him (Christ) that I fully rely (believe) on for my salvation. I’m not saved because of my will but because of Gods will. St. John 1: 12-13. This belief or faith that I have was given to me from God. It is a free gift. This gift has caused me to turn from my sins an to look fully to Jesus Christ for my salvation.

Conferring = free gift, to have eternal life is everlasting happiness. Finish reading the rest of Eph. chapter 1. Where in the Bible dose it say that Jesus died for every single man?

I want to post in support of Lyle on this issue. Salvation is the free gift of God. If I have to choose it, it is no longer free. I believe that redemption is costly and nothing we do can affect it–not even making a decision. I also believe that God is sovereign and always gets His way. If He wants to redeem somebody, there is no way that person can choose against Him.

I just can’t imagine the creator of the universe sitting on His throne wringing His hands and saying, “I really wanted Lyle in heaven, but he chose against me. Now what do I do?” No way. God cannot be thwarted by man’s puny “free will”.

 

[traveler2013]

I think it’s also important for everyone to remember that “Protestant” does not describe an over-arching system of beliefs.

Different denominations believe different things about the nature of Christ’s sacrifice. This is extremely evident in the dichotomy between free will denominations and predestination denominations. There are also other differing beliefs as to the nature of Christ’s sacrifice.

Just pointing out that the varying denominations often have completely opposite ideas about this sort of thing (mostly concerning what one has to be do to be saved, if anything, etc. etc.)

 

[Ion]

One think I truly dislike in protestant attitude about our faith, is the fact that they try to take the Bible like a user manual. I recall a preacher calling it like that: your user manual.
This really put distance between a believer and our Lord, and also between the other believers. And Jesus didn’t give us any book. You can’t take the gospel and make your way to heaven by the texts, thinking that because you followed the texts (how you understand them!) Jesus HAS to save you…

 

[jerry_joseph]

“Truly, I say to you, if you do not eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. The one who eats my flesh and drinks my blood live with eternal life and I will raise him up on the last day.” John 6:53 ,

“This is the bread which came from heaven; unlike that of your ancestors, who ate and later died. Those who eat this bread will live forever.” John 6:58

As a Catholic I can understand that it is relating to Eucharist… As protestants, especially evangelicals and pentecostals does not considers Eucharist as blood and body of christ , then for you what is this blood and flesh that give eternal life…?. How will you get eternal life?.

 

[traveler2013]

“Truly, I say to you, if you do not eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. The one who eats my flesh and drinks my blood live with eternal life and I will raise him up on the last day.” John 6:53 ,

“This is the bread which came from heaven; unlike that of your ancestors, who ate and later died. Those who eat this bread will live forever.” John 6:58

As a Catholic I can understand that it is relating to Eucharist… As protestants, especially evangelicals and pentecostals does not considers Eucharist as blood and body of christ , then for you what is this blood and flesh that give eternal life…?. How will you get eternal life?.

Eternal life for us is accessed via sola fide, faith alone. You don’t have to take the Eucharist to be saved in Christ, it is merely an outward representation of your salvation. To us, eternal life isn’t something you can “earn”. There’s no checklist of things you must do to enter heaven and gain eternal life. Furthermore, most protestants do not believe in the literal resurrection of the body, but the continuity of the spirit.

 

[stevekehl]

“Truly, I say to you, if you do not eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. The one who eats my flesh and drinks my blood live with eternal life and I will raise him up on the last day.” John 6:53 ,

“This is the bread which came from heaven; unlike that of your ancestors, who ate and later died. Those who eat this bread will live forever.” John 6:58

As a Catholic I can understand that it is relating to Eucharist… As protestants, especially evangelicals and pentecostals does not considers Eucharist as blood and body of christ , then for you what is this blood and flesh that give eternal life…?. How will you get eternal life?.

John 6:35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
Do you get hungry or thirsty after taking communion? If you do either Jesus was lying or speaking symbolically, and I don’t believe He was lying.
John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
So is it those who eat the flesh and drink the blood who have eternal life, or those who believe on Christ God’s only son.
John 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
The words are spirit and life, Jesus speaking spiritually? I don’t want to belabor this point so this is all I will say in response to your question. Instead, I have a question for you. If I believe in Jesus, put my faith and trust in Him, but don’t believe in transubstantiation will I go to hell?