Question from a Seeking Jew

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I would like to make a point. You do not have to reject all your heritage to become Catholic. A Jewish convert can retain his heritage and celebrate Hannukah(Spelling?). These authors speak about this.
 
Ignatius said:
Shalom Aleichem

A cafeteria Catholic is someone who, rather than following the teaching of the Faith, decides to not obey or believe this or that. For instance, they may decide not to refrain from going to weekly Divine Liturgy, or that they are going to use artifical birth control. These are both (failure to attend weekly Mass and use of artificial birth control) violations of the tenets of the Catholic Faith.

Also, you may find this interesting:
secondexodus.com/

TheLord bless and protect you.
The Lord smile upon you, and be gracious to you.
The Lord lift up His countenance upon you and give you His peace

I’m a “cradle” Catholic as opposed to a “cafeteria” Catholic. But I also want to thank you for the link.
 
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jimmy:
I would like to make a point. You do not have to reject all your heritage to become Catholic. A Jewish convert can retain his heritage and celebrate Hannukah(Spelling?). These authors speak about this.
I honestly hadn’t considered the thought of continuing to celebrate Chanukah and the other Jewish holidays. I guess I just figured I’d have to give them up. Thanks for letting me know about these authors, I’ll definitely search out their books now.
 
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Jew_Man_73:
I honestly hadn’t considered the thought of continuing to celebrate Chanukah and the other Jewish holidays. I guess I just figured I’d have to give them up. Thanks for letting me know about these authors, I’ll definitely search out their books now.
You can listen to something by Roy Schoeman here from EWTN. You can listen to the conversion of Rosalind Moss here . And a conversion by a man named Bob Fishman here , who was Jewish. They all mention this.
 
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jimmy:
You can listen to something by Roy Schoeman here from EWTN. You can listen to the conversion of Rosalind Moss here . And a conversion by a man named Bob Fishman here , who was Jewish. They all mention this.
Thank you very much. I know what I’m going to be doing this evening!
 
I’ve listened to several of Rosalind Moss’s tapes and even had the pleasure of hearing Roy Schoeman talk at a small breakfast meeting of local Catholics. I bought Roy’s book but have not had the time to read it yet. He alluded to the fact that his conversion was nearly instantaneous although he didn’t share the exact details. I would suspect it was similar to the feelings you had when praying to Mary, and yet I would guess it was God he’d been praying to, not Mary, since he hadn’t been looking to become Catholic at the time.

Yes, what you have been experiencing does happen to other people. It has happened to me and as you’ve already heard from others here, it’s happened to them as well. Welcome Home, now that Mary’s got you, you’ll be well taken care of. Just remember to listen to what Mom tells you. You know, Honor Your Mother! 🙂

Take Care,

CARose
 
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CARose:
I’ve listened to several of Rosalind Moss’s tapes and even had the pleasure of hearing Roy Schoeman talk at a small breakfast meeting of local Catholics. I bought Roy’s book but have not had the time to read it yet. He alluded to the fact that his conversion was nearly instantaneous although he didn’t share the exact details. I would suspect it was similar to the feelings you had when praying to Mary, and yet I would guess it was God he’d been praying to, not Mary, since he hadn’t been looking to become Catholic at the time.

Yes, what you have been experiencing does happen to other people. It has happened to me and as you’ve already heard from others here, it’s happened to them as well. Welcome Home, now that Mary’s got you, you’ll be well taken care of. Just remember to listen to what Mom tells you. You know, Honor Your Mother! 🙂

Take Care,

CARose
Thank you. I thought I was going crazy for a little while there. 🙂 This has been a nearly indescribable experience so far. I started out being very skeptical and cautious, and I grow less so every day. The RCIA director here told me the other day that she can tell that I have a pure heart and a sincere longing for G-d. She’s also convinced that I’m going to convert and become a daily communicant. We’ll see.
 
Just watch, you’ll not only be a daily communicant, you’ll be reading daily Office. It happened to me, and in a fairly short period of time.

CARose
 
I just heard on TV that Cardinal Ratzinger was recently embarrassed when it was made known that he had once been a “Hitler Youth”. Would you hold this against him?

CARose
 
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CARose:
Just watch, you’ll not only be a daily communicant, you’ll be reading daily Office. It happened to me, and in a fairly short period of time.

CARose
You’re echoing the RCIA director! 🙂
 
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CARose:
I just heard on TV that Cardinal Ratzinger was recently embarrassed when it was made known that he had once been a “Hitler Youth”. Would you hold this against him?

CARose
Wow. I can’t answer that right now. I had no idea he was once a “Hitler Youth.” I have family members that I’ve never met because they died in concentration camps. I would have liked to have known them. My knee-jerk reaction is to ask “Why in the world is this man a cardinal?” On the other hand, Judaism and Christianity both teach forgiveness. Corrie Ten Boom forgave the Nazis who tortured her and killed her family. I also don’t know the particulars. Was he a small child? Brainwashed? Didn’t know what he was doing? Has he repented? I need to pray about this.
 
Dr. Colossus:
I thought Levitical Law prohibited eating pork, not beef. :confused:
levitical law also states those in the jewish faith cannot have cheese with meat.
 
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Jew_Man_73:
I felt like someone was standing near me, like someone had walked up while I was praying or something. I even opened my eyes in the middle of my prayer and looked around, but no one was there. I started praying again, but the feeling got stronger.
I will not bother repeating what others have already confirmed about your experience. Such experiences happen at different levels to different people and for some, like myself, not at all. The closest to such an experience I’ve had is an overwhelming sense of peace when I first experienced the traditional liturgy. I have not (yet?), however, experienced such a presence.

Catholicism teaches that Christ, the Angels, and the Saints, take a very real interest in each and every one of us. Each one of us has his own Guardian Angel who watches over us to help us; especially when we feel spiritually bereft.
 
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Jew_Man_73:
Wow. I can’t answer that right now. I had no idea he was once a “Hitler Youth.” I have family members that I’ve never met because they died in concentration camps. I would have liked to have known them. My knee-jerk reaction is to ask “Why in the world is this man a cardinal?” On the other hand, Judaism and Christianity both teach forgiveness. Corrie Ten Boom forgave the Nazis who tortured her and killed her family. I also don’t know the particulars. Was he a small child? Brainwashed? Didn’t know what he was doing? Has he repented? I need to pray about this.
The youth in Germany did not have much of a choice in these things:( My uncle is a Polish Jew and his parents,siblings and one uncle were the only survivors of the Holocaust over there.They started brainwashing children young,in fact plannedparenthood uses their techniques to make abortion seem acceptable.Children are like sponges and if you tell a child something over and over again they will believe it,of course God can undo do the evil;)
 
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CARose:
I’ve listened to several of Rosalind Moss’s tapes and even had the pleasure of hearing Roy Schoeman talk at a small breakfast meeting of local Catholics. I bought Roy’s book but have not had the time to read it yet. He alluded to the fact that his conversion was nearly instantaneous although he didn’t share the exact details. I would suspect it was similar to the feelings you had when praying to Mary, and yet I would guess it was God he’d been praying to, not Mary, since he hadn’t been looking to become Catholic at the time.

Yes, what you have been experiencing does happen to other people. It has happened to me and as you’ve already heard from others here, it’s happened to them as well. Welcome Home, now that Mary’s got you, you’ll be well taken care of. Just remember to listen to what Mom tells you. You know, Honor Your Mother! 🙂

Take Care,

CARose
Roy Schoeman said on a radio show that I heard that he had a vivid dream(or vision) of Mary. He had been praying to God for truth. This is what got him to convert to Catholicism.
 
Here is what happened with the youth in Germany and Italy in the 1930’s. These countries had what amounted to massive Catholic youth programs, along with Catholic political parties. The fascist and Nazi regimes signed both the concordat and lateren treaties to respect the autonomy of the church and their programs. The fascists and nazis did not abide by these treaties however and proceeded to shut down catholic youth programs in favor for their own ideological youth programs. In Germany, by 1934 it was mandatory that all German boys be members of the Hitler Youth. As for the Nazi attitude towards Catholicism, it must be said that both Hitler and Goebbels (former catholics by birth, but not by faith) hated the church because of it’s roots in judaism. Goebbels once said in his diaries that “It’s a dirty low thing for the Catholic Church to continue its subversive activity in every way possible and now even to extend its propaganda to Protestant children evacuated from regions threatened by air raids. Next to the Jews these politico-divines are about the most loathsome riff-raff that we are still sheltering in the Reich. The time will come after the war for an over-all solution of this problem.”
 
Jew_Man

Did you get to daily Mass this morning. I thought of you during the 1st reading from Acts. Does your pastor give a homily at daily Mass? If you missed it, take a look at Acts 11: 1-18, it’s about the first time Peter opened the Church to non-Jews. Throughout the time Paul took the teachings of Jesus Christ to non-Jews it drew controversy from the Jews, who couldn’t conceive of such a thing.

I don’t know if you’re aware, but Paul, previously called Saul, was the top student of the top Rabbi at the Temple. He was the student who was expected to take the top position at the temple for his incredible understanding of scripture. He, against the position of his teacher, persecuted the Christians until he was slain by the Lord. Afterwards, he became the primary preacher to the Gentiles, becoming a prolific writer and teacher.

When the question of circumcision came up, he brought it to Jerusalem (Peter) for clarification (the first Council of the Church, described in the Acts of the Apostles). This is another of the supports for the truth of the Papalcy.

I know nothing about the details of Cardinal Ratzingers youth, but I would suspect it was as described by Jackman. Would you hold this against him? If you were told he in no way now holds any antisemetic views, would you expect him to offer an apology for his youthful involvement in an organization that all his peers were required to join? (I don’t know if he’s already done this.)

Would you consider this a reason to exclude him from the Papacy?

Just wondering your thoughts,

CARose
 
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theMutant:
I will not bother repeating what others have already confirmed about your experience. Such experiences happen at different levels to different people and for some, like myself, not at all. The closest to such an experience I’ve had is an overwhelming sense of peace when I first experienced the traditional liturgy. I have not (yet?), however, experienced such a presence.

Catholicism teaches that Christ, the Angels, and the Saints, take a very real interest in each and every one of us. Each one of us has his own Guardian Angel who watches over us to help us; especially when we feel spiritually bereft.
I’ll look up guardian angels, thanks.
 
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JackmanUSC:
Here is what happened with the youth in Germany and Italy in the 1930’s. These countries had what amounted to massive Catholic youth programs, along with Catholic political parties. The fascist and Nazi regimes signed both the concordat and lateren treaties to respect the autonomy of the church and their programs. The fascists and nazis did not abide by these treaties however and proceeded to shut down catholic youth programs in favor for their own ideological youth programs. In Germany, by 1934 it was mandatory that all German boys be members of the Hitler Youth. As for the Nazi attitude towards Catholicism, it must be said that both Hitler and Goebbels (former catholics by birth, but not by faith) hated the church because of it’s roots in judaism. Goebbels once said in his diaries that “It’s a dirty low thing for the Catholic Church to continue its subversive activity in every way possible and now even to extend its propaganda to Protestant children evacuated from regions threatened by air raids. Next to the Jews these politico-divines are about the most loathsome riff-raff that we are still sheltering in the Reich. The time will come after the war for an over-all solution of this problem.”
Thank you for the information. I’ll see if I can look up some more about this.
 
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