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Jew_Man_73
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Could you email it to me? I’d like to read it. Thanks.
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Jew_Man_73
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I was just reading your post again. I agree, look what has happened! One simple question from me, and this post has evolved into this! Isn’t it great? :dancing:
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neophyte
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Done.
It wasn’t the liturgy that really struck me so much as it was the theological similarities. For example, the idea of tikkun olam is absolutely foreign to any Protestant theology that I ever heard, but it is virtually identical to the Catholic idea of working in union with God and thus participating in the redemptive work of Christ. And all of the Protestant ideas I ever heard about original sin are completely foreign to Jewish thought, but the Catholic teaching on it is identical to the yetzer hara.
It wasn’t the liturgy that really struck me so much as it was the theological similarities. For example, the idea of tikkun olam is absolutely foreign to any Protestant theology that I ever heard, but it is virtually identical to the Catholic idea of working in union with God and thus participating in the redemptive work of Christ. And all of the Protestant ideas I ever heard about original sin are completely foreign to Jewish thought, but the Catholic teaching on it is identical to the yetzer hara.
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VociMike
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Where can we party-crashing (non-Jewish
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Jew_Man_73
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I can’t believe I didn’t see that. The Catholic teaching of working in union with G-d and participating in the redemptive work of Jesus is virtually identical to tikkun olam. And the teaching of original sin and yetzer hara too. When viewed in the context of Catholicism being Judaism fulfilled, it’s almost eerie. More to pray about, I think. Thanks.
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Jew_Man_73
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An excellent site is www.jewfaq.org. It has information on all aspects of Jewish faith, from the most basic to the most advanced. It also contains detailed information about all the branches of Judaism. And don’t worry, it’s Gentile friendly!Where can we party-crashing (non-Jewish
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GodBlessJoanie
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Just to let you know that the most reverent Catholics in our Parish are those who converted from Judaism. :bounce:
Reason?
They can see the typology… because they know the Old Testament so very well.
(That’s where the Old Testament is fulfilled by the New Testament, and the New Testament was already predicted in the Old.)
They can also see that the Catholic Mass is very similar to the worship found in the synagogue. They can also see the similarities between Catholicism and the Levitical Law.
Remember, Christ himself said that he did not come to abolish the law but to fulfill it.
Shalom,
Joanie
Reason?
They can see the typology… because they know the Old Testament so very well.
(That’s where the Old Testament is fulfilled by the New Testament, and the New Testament was already predicted in the Old.)
They can also see that the Catholic Mass is very similar to the worship found in the synagogue. They can also see the similarities between Catholicism and the Levitical Law.
Remember, Christ himself said that he did not come to abolish the law but to fulfill it.
Shalom,
Joanie
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Jew_Man_73
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I’ve noticed some similarities as well. I would love to find some Jewish Catholics in my area, but I don’t know of any. There aren’t alot of Jews here, period.
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GodBlessJoanie
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Hi again,
Jewish Catholics? You may want to contact several of your local parishes and speak with the Pastors. Ask them if any of their parishioners are Jewish converts. Remember that the wave is moving south (you are in North Carolina I believe) so it may not be as hard as you think to find them.
Give Father your number and let them call you. Of course, put this all in prayer and let the Lord lead.
Also, I know that this may be new to you, but you can always ask the intercession of the Blessed Mother (who you know was a most holy Jewish girl… – or is it gurl…–)
Blessings,
Joanie
Jewish Catholics? You may want to contact several of your local parishes and speak with the Pastors. Ask them if any of their parishioners are Jewish converts. Remember that the wave is moving south (you are in North Carolina I believe) so it may not be as hard as you think to find them.
Give Father your number and let them call you. Of course, put this all in prayer and let the Lord lead.
Also, I know that this may be new to you, but you can always ask the intercession of the Blessed Mother (who you know was a most holy Jewish girl… – or is it gurl…–)
Blessings,
Joanie
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Ignatius
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Isn’t there also a teaching that, after the Messiah comes, all sacrifice will be done away with except bread and wine?
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Jew_Man_73
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Thank you. I didn’t think of that, because there just aren’t many Jews here. It’s worth a try, though. It would be great to meet some Jewish Catholics. (I’ve been praying to Mary off and on, by the way. Gotten some interesting results
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Jew_Man_73
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I believe so, but I’m not sure. Let me look it up and get back to you.
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Zooey
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I think that is quite true; no ordinary human being would qualify for the throne of David, if you go by all that is written of the Messiah in the Jewish scriptures.
I had never even thought about someone trying to claim to be the Messiah today, how he would be able to prove his bloodlines…I think that this may be a question for Jew Man! Do Jews today know what tribe they are descended from, even?After the centuries of the Diaspora?? (I know that we Celts don’t! My family is still trying to figure out where in Ireland & Wales the family came from!)
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Zooey
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Great site!! Thank you, I will be very interested in this!!An excellent site is www.jewfaq.org. It has information on all aspects of Jewish faith, from the most basic to the most advanced. It also contains detailed information about all the branches of Judaism. And don’t worry, it’s Gentile friendly!
God bless.
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antiaphrodite
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and you mean a lot to God (and me)!
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theMutant
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This looks like a great site. I’ll definitely be coming here as part of my studies.An excellent site is www.jewfaq.org. It has information on all aspects of Jewish faith, from the most basic to the most advanced. It also contains detailed information about all the branches of Judaism. And don’t worry, it’s Gentile friendly!
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Jew_Man_73
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I’m not an expert at this, but I have read up on the subject a bit. Most Jews can’t trace their lineage back to the original 12 tribes, but some can. There is a small movement in Israel today to restore the line of David to the throne. It’s small, but vocal, from what I’ve read. They’ve actually found a man who is of the line of David, and they’re looking for more. That’s where they’re at right now. Personally, I’m skeptical. In order to restore the throne, the current government would have to cease to exist. At best, I think all that could happen would be a type of constitutional monarchy with a Prime Minister and a king with limited power. However, if anything ever does happen, it’s a long way off. This group is small, and would need alot more supporters, I would imagine. I’ll look up some more information about this and post it here.
As for no human ever fulfilling the qualifications for Messiah, that is exactly what Jews believe. Jews believe he will be a mere mortal man. No more, no less. Don’t forget that the Christian concept of the Messiah is drastically different from the Jewish concept. The Messianic prophecies in the TANAKH are interpreted differently by Jews. For more information, look up “Moshiach” on jewfaq.org. It has alot of information on Jewish beliefs regarding the Messiah. Shalom!
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Jew_Man_73
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Yes. I stumbled on it by accident last year. I’m glad I did, it’s great.
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Jew_Man_73
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Thank you, ditto!and you mean a lot to God (and me)!
G-d bless!
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Jew_Man_73
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I’m glad you like it. Yes, it is a great site. I have two addictions in life now: jewfaq.org and catholic.com!This looks like a great site. I’ll definitely be coming here as part of my studies.
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