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CARose:
I think we need to remind the folks who put up this forum that they have done an incredible thing. God has been given an opportunity to work here.

CARose
Maybe send them a message?
 
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Jew_Man_73:
Also, I’m not an expert, but I’ve done enough research to know that the Catholic Church is the Church. Catholic teachings can be traced back to the apostles, but not Protestant teachings. It makes me wonder why anyone would be Protestant. Ignorance of Church history and Church doctrines, maybe?
You’re echoing John Henry Cardinal Newman, who converted from Anglican priest to Catholicism in the mid 19th century.

“And this one thing at least is certain; whatever history teaches, whatever it omits, whatever it exaggerates or extenuates, whatever it says and unsays, at least the Christianity of history is not Protestantism. If ever there were a safe truth, it is this.”

And the famous comment “To be deep in history is to cease to be a Protestant.”

These are from his An Essay on the Development of Christian Doctrine

Here’s a great Newman site: www.newmanreader.org
 
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VociMike:
You’re echoing John Henry Cardinal Newman, who converted from Anglican priest to Catholicism in the mid 19th century.

“And this one thing at least is certain; whatever history teaches, whatever it omits, whatever it exaggerates or extenuates, whatever it says and unsays, at least the Christianity of history is not Protestantism. If ever there were a safe truth, it is this.”

And the famous comment “To be deep in history is to cease to be a Protestant.”

These are from his An Essay on the Development of Christian Doctrine

Here’s a great Newman site: www.newmanreader.org
I’ve never heard of this man. Thank you for the link. I’ll check it out.
 
Hey Jew_Man,

Did you make it to Mass this morning? At our Parish, the tiny Catholic School sponsored the Mass and filled the roles of Lector, brought up the gifts, acted as Ushers, etc, with donuts afterwards to encourage locals to attend their upcoming open house.

The readings are still going through Acts, which makes me think of you and all you’ve been learning here. Also, the Priest gave an excellent homily on Mary the Mother of God, being May Day, and May being the Month of Mary.

CARose

PS, with all the time you’ve been spending on this, how are your studies at school going?
 
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CARose:
Hey Jew_Man,

Did you make it to Mass this morning? At our Parish, the tiny Catholic School sponsored the Mass and filled the roles of Lector, brought up the gifts, acted as Ushers, etc, with donuts afterwards to encourage locals to attend their upcoming open house.

The readings are still going through Acts, which makes me think of you and all you’ve been learning here. Also, the Priest gave an excellent homily on Mary the Mother of God, being May Day, and May being the Month of Mary.

CARose

PS, with all the time you’ve been spending on this, how are your studies at school going?
Hi,
Yes, I made it to Mass this morning. The readings here are also still coming from Acts. The priest here also gave a homily on Mary. There was a statue of Mary set up on a table at the front of the sanctuary, and a group of kids came up and placed flowers at the base of it about halfway through the service. I’m not sure what that was about. Do you have any idea?
My studies are doing ok. My last final exam is tomorrow, as a matter of fact. I’m so happy that summer is here!🙂
 
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Jew_Man_73:
Hi,
There was a statue of Mary set up on a table at the front of the sanctuary, and a group of kids came up and placed flowers at the base of it about halfway through the service. I’m not sure what that was about. Do you have any idea?
That was a Mary procession, they did it in our Parish as well, but the did it at the beginning of Mass, rather than incorporating it into the Mass itself. It’s an honor shown to Mary at the beginning of the month of May. It isn’t always done, it’s something that used to be in greater vogue. It’s a great way of showing her the respect due to her for her office as Mother, kinda like Mother’s Day!
My studies are doing ok. My last final exam is tomorrow, as a matter of fact. I’m so happy that summer is here!🙂
I’m glad to hear you haven’t let your studies slip as a result of all the time you’ve spent here. I can’t necessarily say the same about some of the things I’m supposed to be accomplishing! 🙂

CARose
 
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CARose:
That was a Mary procession, they did it in our Parish as well, but the did it at the beginning of Mass, rather than incorporating it into the Mass itself. It’s an honor shown to Mary at the beginning of the month of May. It isn’t always done, it’s something that used to be in greater vogue. It’s a great way of showing her the respect due to her for her office as Mother, kinda like Mother’s Day!
I’m glad to hear you haven’t let your studies slip as a result of all the time you’ve spent here. I can’t necessarily say the same about some of the things I’m supposed to be accomplishing! 🙂

CARose
Thank you, I knew it had something to do with honoring Mary, but I wasn’t sure what.
Also, I understand. This forum can be addicting sometimes!
 
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Jew_Man_73:
Hi,
Yes, I made it to Mass this morning. The readings here are also still coming from Acts.
Your answer suggests that you don’t yet know about the Lectionary. On any given day the readings are the same at every Catholic Church anywhere in the world. They are based on a 3-year cycle. Over that cycle almost the entire Bible is read, with certian parts read each of the three years (think Easter and Christmas for example) and other only once in the 3-year cycle.

This is all to reflect and strengthen the unity of the Church, as well as to tie Old Testament and New Testament together.

Here’s are a few links I found on the Lectionary:

myweb.lmu.edu/fjust/Lectionary/1998USL.htm
easterbrooks.com/personal/calendar/yearly.html
 
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VociMike:
Your answer suggests that you don’t yet know about the Lectionary. On any given day the readings are the same at every Catholic Church anywhere in the world. They are based on a 3-year cycle. Over that cycle almost the entire Bible is read, with certian parts read each of the three years (think Easter and Christmas for example) and other only once in the 3-year cycle.

This is all to reflect and strengthen the unity of the Church, as well as to tie Old Testament and New Testament together.

Here’s are a few links I found on the Lectionary:

myweb.lmu.edu/fjust/Lectionary/1998USL.htm
easterbrooks.com/personal/calendar/yearly.html
Interesting, thanks. I’ll take a look at it after my exam tomorrow.
 
Voci,

FYI, when it comes to daily Mass there are occationally Optional Feasts which come with different readings than the standard lectionary readings. Hence the occational comparing of notes as to which readings given at a specific Parish. I don’t know exactly which feasts are optional, especially on Sundays.

CARose
 
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CARose:
FYI, when it comes to daily Mass there are occationally Optional Feasts which come with different readings than the standard lectionary readings. Hence the occational comparing of notes as to which readings given at a specific Parish. I don’t know exactly which feasts are optional, especially on Sundays.
In addition, there are sometimes optional (alternate) readings even without the optional feasts; although I think they tend to come from the same writing. In other words, if the “normal” reading is from Acts, then the alternate reading would also be from Acts; usually a portion of, or an expansion to, the normal reading.
 
CARose really brought it to our attention about the daily mass readings. It is true that we are all hearing the same readings at mass each day no matter where we live! This is VERY uniting. And it is true that each day I am thinking of Jew Man as I follow the Acts of the Apostles! How can we not be thinking and praying about your journey and ours too! I’m sure you’ll get lots of prayers for that final too! G-D Bless you and may you do well on that test!

Also, I know I missed a page of this thread, maybe page 3, I’m not sure. But did anyone mention who the woman was in the Passion movie who gave Jesus the cloth to dry his face and offered the glass of water? Tradition knows her as Veronica and you can see her pictured in the Stations of the Cross that are on the wall of each Catholic Church. The next time you have a chance Jew Man, check it out. You will see her with the cloth and Jesus’s face imprinted on it like the Shroud of Turin.
 
Thanks Walburga,

We hadn’t brought that up in the missing thread. Good thing to mention. And you may not have come across Stations of the Cross yet. As Walburga mentions, JM, each Catholic Church should have a series of images on the wall (14 in all) that depict the story of his arrest and crucifixion.

And he’s right, you’ll be getting prayers for your finals, whether you knew it or not!

God Bless,

CARose
 
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theMutant:
In addition, there are sometimes optional (alternate) readings even without the optional feasts; although I think they tend to come from the same writing. In other words, if the “normal” reading is from Acts, then the alternate reading would also be from Acts; usually a portion of, or an expansion to, the normal reading.
Is it up to the discretion of the priest as to which reading to use?
 
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Walburga:
CARose really brought it to our attention about the daily mass readings. It is true that we are all hearing the same readings at mass each day no matter where we live! This is VERY uniting. And it is true that each day I am thinking of Jew Man as I follow the Acts of the Apostles! How can we not be thinking and praying about your journey and ours too! I’m sure you’ll get lots of prayers for that final too! G-D Bless you and may you do well on that test!

Also, I know I missed a page of this thread, maybe page 3, I’m not sure. But did anyone mention who the woman was in the Passion movie who gave Jesus the cloth to dry his face and offered the glass of water? Tradition knows her as Veronica and you can see her pictured in the Stations of the Cross that are on the wall of each Catholic Church. The next time you have a chance Jew Man, check it out. You will see her with the cloth and Jesus’s face imprinted on it like the Shroud of Turin.
Taking a brief break from studying! :whacky: Thank you for your prayers. I had no idea what a blessing and learning experience this would turn out to be when I stumbled on this forum by accident and decided to post! I pray that G-d will pour out His blessings on all of you.
As for the woman in The Passion of the Christ. I had no idea there was any kind of tradition or Church teaching about her. That was one of my favorite parts of the film, and I would like to learn more about her. Where can I get some information about her? (Books, websites, whatever.)
 
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CARose:
When options are allowed, yes, the priest choses.

CARose
Interesting. The choir director at the parish here told me the other day that “The buck stops with the priest.”
 
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CARose:
Thanks Walburga,

We hadn’t brought that up in the missing thread. Good thing to mention. And you may not have come across Stations of the Cross yet. As Walburga mentions, JM, each Catholic Church should have a series of images on the wall (14 in all) that depict the story of his arrest and crucifixion.

And he’s right, you’ll be getting prayers for your finals, whether you knew it or not!

God Bless,

CARose
:blessyou: , and thanks for the prayers! I don’t really know what the stations of the cross are, but the parish here does have a series of pictures on the walls of the sanctuary. I guess that’s it? I’ll ask the priest to explain them to me tomorrow after Mass. This is interesting, thanks!
 
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