Question: Is gay marriage sinful?

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klmt123 said:
It does. Seman into vagina, without hormonal contraceptive or barrier. Not all acts of intercourse result in pregnancy. Woman are naturally infertile during part of the month, without doing anything to make themselves infertile.
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So men with erectile dysfunction cannot marry?
 
No. They cant. They have to have a working penis at the start of marriage… They have to be able to perform the marriage act.
 
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No. They cant. They have to have a working penis at the start of marriage…
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Wow. So marriage is dependant on the penis. But women are allowed to be entirely infertile? Both of my (adopted) grandmothers had their wombs removed as children due to cancer; they could still marry?
 
That’s a question you would have to ask a priest. I don’t want to give you a wrong answer because that is something I do not know.
 
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That’s a question you would have to ask a priest. I don’t want to give you a wrong answer because that is something I do not know.
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A priest did marry one of them (The other was Anglican and also married), so I assume it was fine back then. But it does make me wonder why a man wouldn’t be allowed to just because his penis wasn’t fully functional.
 
Honestly, there is no debate on whether gay ‘marriage’ is a sin or not just as there is no debate on if water molecules are distinct from non-water molecules.
The answer is gay ‘marriage’ is a sin.
Of course, there are those who distort what God has revealed in His Word, discredit it, mince it, contort things but they’ve been exposed as false teachings over and over again. Rather than being regenerated by the Spirit of God and being informed by Scripture, there are those who are telling God He is wrong because they’ve conformed the spirit of the age and the patterns of the world.
The OP was about culpability.
 
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I have done a lot of research on the topic, but I am a girl so a guy with a working penis and what constitutes as valid for me marrying a man was more of the interest for me. If I were a guy I would research what would be valid for marrying a female.
 
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No amount of trying to read into scripture what is not there, or trying to make it agree with modern practices can change the fact that homosexual acts are condemned in both the old and in the new testaments. The model of male-female relationship was set forth in Genesis and reaffirmed by Jesus during his discourse on divorce.

Scripture, Apostolic teaching, and the Church’s constant teaching over 2,000 years will not change just because the modern wolrd does not like the teaching. God does not lead us astray. If we are sensible we follow his law, not ours.
 
klmt123 said:
I have done a lot of research on the topic, but I am a girl so a guy with a working penis and what constitutes as valid for me marrying a man was more of the interest for me. If I were a guy I would research what would be valid for marrying a female.
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I’d assume that both would be important to know. After all, what if you found a partner and they turned out to be unable to perform in that regard? It may prevent you marrying them.
 
I am not sure if there is anything else to be said on the matter than what has already been said on this thread. I kind of feel like I am repeating things…
 
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See a more complete presentation on the Church’s teaching on impotence here.

It is only antecedent, permanent, and incurable impotence–i.e–inability to ever engage in marital relations, that make a marriage invalid. Removal of a uterus, for example, does not make marital relations impossible.
 
I would ask him all kinds of personal questions, marriage is a big decision ya know, it’s the rest of your life with that person!!
 
klmt123 said:
I would ask him all kinds of personal questions, marriage is a big decision ya know, it’s the rest of your life with that person!!
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I agree. I just wouldn’t personally end a relationship due to impotency. But I’m asexual so maybe this is one of those things that sexual folks get that I just don’t.
 
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It’s sometimes difficult to take the morality of the Old Testament very seriously
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Well, the choice isn’t between the morality of the Old Testament and yours.
The choice is between the morality taught by every Pope from Peter to Francis, compared to yours.
The decision is yours, but this is the unchanging teaching of the Church, and it will not change in our time, regardless of pressure exerted from any direction, whether outside or inside or both.
 
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