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Alex337
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I’d rather hope there’s more to it than that. Defining marriage purely on sex seems a bit odd to me. But if you want to define a relationship on sex and your partner is cool with it then you go ahead.
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I meant that it is one of the aspects that make it different from other relationships. Of course the parts that make any relationship desirable should also be present.
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Alex337
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I do understand. I just disagree and find the reasoning absurdly flawed. Sex when the partners are sterile is not about procreation. It’s not “open to life” or any other twee term. They are not ordered towards procreation.Alex337:
With all due respect, you clearly don’t understand what the situation is. Sex has to be conjugal. Sterility neither prohibits nor invalidates marriage. Spouses to whom God has not granted children can nevertheless have a conjugal life full of meaning, in both human and Christian terms. Their marriage can radiate a fruitfulness of charity, of hospitality, and of sacrifice (No. 1654). In this case, a couple can consummate the marriage, but they just cannot conceive children…
A gay couple cannot have sex and be ordered towards procreation. They cannot consummate the marriage and there is no chance of that occuring
Sorry but the church in this instance cares about the sex act more than the chance of procreation.
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Alex337
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People can have sex without it being important. It seems a shallow act to base things on to me. But again, that’s just my taste. If sex is super important to you then go for it.
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SeriousQuestion
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I don’t think you understand what I am trying to say. And stop projecting the idea that intercourse is important for me because it is not.
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Alex337
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I think I may just disagree with what you’re trying to say due to not placing the same level of importance on sex. But if you could clarify it may help?
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SeriousQuestion
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One of the aspects that make marriage different from other types of relationships is the sexual and romantic nature of it. Which doesn’t mean that a marriage should be based solely on those aspects.
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theCardinalbird
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Do infertile couples clinch the case for same-sex marriage?
Nope. All infertilities are not equal. There is a crucial difference between an infertile heterosexual union and an impotent homosexual one.This week, the US Supreme Court began its deliberations on the contentious issue of same-sex marriage. One of the two cases it will hear concerns...
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I think this explains the problem well…
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Alex337
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People are perfectly capable of having sex without romantic attachment. Why make sex a pre-req? It seems wiser to care more about the two offering up commitment to the relationship.
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BlueMaxx
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Huh…you might wanna check with Sarah and Elizabeth on that statement…JimG:
Sorry but when the people are completely infertile, lacking a womb for instance, it’s not about procreation. Also people are fertile more than once a month.
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Alex337
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Nope, it just shows the absurdity of the church being obsessed with sex ever to the extent of caring about it more than procreation.
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theCardinalbird
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Did you read the article?
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BlueMaxx
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It is about being chaste and staying pure…keeping oneself away from sin…we should be obsessed with these things…
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Alex337
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Yes. It’s logic was the same as just usual; a wee bit sex obsessed.Alex337:
Did you read the article?
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That is part of the couple’s job to find out whether this union will be a good one or not. I am pretty sure that marriage prep is a requirement that goes over these sorts of things. Sex plays a role in uniting the spouses together and (in most cases) also in creating a family through procreation. People that have casual intercourse are probably in it for the pleasure instead of the other parts.
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Alex337
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I’d agree if it wasn’t the rule that states a man who can’t become erect can’t marry. That’s nothing to do with chastity and everything to do with focusing a bit much on sex. But hey, if sex is what matters to folks then you go for it.
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Alex337
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Wow, you care so much about sex that you’d leave your ideal partner if they couldn’t perform? I mean I support your right to do so but it doesn’t make sense to me.
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theCardinalbird
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I feel it adequately explains the distinction between gay marriage and infertile heterosexual marriages and also why infertility doesn’t pave the way for accepting gay marriage. Procreation is a huge part of marriage and shouldn’t be dismissed as less than unitive love. Both are equal. However, although a small portion of Catholics can’t have children, that doesn’t mean we can say that sex is more about the unitive aspect compared to the procreative aspect, it just means that some can’t have children and that is a cross the couple must carry.
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What doesn’t make sense is why you are taking what I said out of context. I wasn’t even talking about being incompetent. I do not plan on being married so stop making such projections. I don’t see why they can’t have a good friendship which is also a good relationship.
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I don’tAlex337:
I feel it adequately explains the distinction between gay marriage and infertile heterosexual marriages and also why infertility doesn’t pave the way for accepting gay marriage. Procreation is a huge part of marriage and shouldn’t be dismissed as less than unitive love. Both are equal. However, although a small portion of Catholics can’t have children, that doesn’t mean we can say that sex is more about the unitive aspect compared to the procreative aspect, it just means that some can’t have children and that is a cross the couple must carry.
sorry but the while article just showed again that the church cares about sex more than procreation; it can look past people being infertile but not impotent. And that’s fine, if you want to base marriage concept of marriage on sex then you go ahead. It will never make sense to me.Oh, and homosexual sex is just as unitive as heterosexual sex, so that also makes zero sense.
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