Question: Missals

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You could say I’m new to this whole “traditional Catholic” thing. My parish that I grew up in wasn’t traditional, wasn’t charismatic, wasn’t really anything. So now I’m discovering this whole new world of Catholicism and I’m trying to kind of play catch-up.

I enjoy both the EF and OF Masses. I’m looking to purchase a missal, but there are so many different kinds (weekday, Sunday, daily, NO, EF, Latin, English, Latin/English, the list goes on and on) that I’m getting very confused.

Are there any missals that I can use to follow along in both forms of the Mass?
If not, what kind of Latin missal should I get, in your opinion, and why? (And I guess I’ll wait for the new Mass to arrive this Advent (hooray!) to get my NO missal.)
Does “daily missal” mean it includes both Sundays and weekdays?
Do missals usually include saints’ days, reminders for First Fridays and First Saturdays, etc.?

Basically, I want to know, form your own experience, what missal(s) is/(are) best.
Thanks!
 
In most churches for the ordinary form you find missalettes in the pew or on the shelf in the entrance of the church. Borrow one for a week or so (cost is below $3, some churches even recommend to take it and give some additional donation) be familiar with that, and you can follow the new form either Sundays or weekdays. Do not by full book, the translation changed but will come out only after October this year.

For a hand missal of the Traditional Latin Mass the best source is church bazaars, I bought my copy for $0.50, and serves me well since 20 years. My one (Kennedy & Sons New York 1943) has the propers in English only, afaik so does the St Joseph edition too. The new prints are full bilingual and cost about $60.
 
You will not find one missal for both the EF and OF masses, so you will have to get a seperate missal for each. For the EF Mass I use ‘The New Roman Missal by Fr. Lasance’ and for the OF Mass I use ‘Daily Roman Missal (Scepter)’. Both have Latin and English, and, yes, the daily missal has both Sundays and weekdays for years A, B and C.
 
Correct; there is no ONE missal for both forms. I use an Angelus Press, 1962 Roman Missal and when I do go to the OF I just use the missals available in the church.
 
colleensarah said:
You could say I’m new to this whole “traditional Catholic” thing. My parish that I grew up in wasn’t traditional, wasn’t charismatic, wasn’t really anything. So now I’m discovering this whole new world of Catholicism and I’m trying to kind of play catch-up.

I enjoy both the EF and OF Masses. I’m looking to purchase a missal, but there are so many different kinds (weekday, Sunday, daily, NO, EF, Latin, English, Latin/English, the list goes on and on) that I’m getting very confused.

Are there any missals that I can use to follow along in both forms of the Mass?
If not, what kind of Latin missal should I get, in your opinion, and why? (And I guess I’ll wait for the new Mass to arrive this Advent (hooray!) to get my NO missal.)
Does “daily missal” mean it includes both Sundays and weekdays?
Do missals usually include saints’ days, reminders for First Fridays and First Saturdays, etc.?

Basically, I want to know, form your own experience, what missal(s) is/(are) best.
Thanks!
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I too like another poster have the Fr. Lasance 1945 Missal. As far as 1962 Missals are concerned ( the last time the Tridentine mass was updated by Pope John XXIII) I would go with Barnonius Press and avoid the Angelus Press. Reason, I say this. is because the Angelus Press version is affiliated with the SSPX and they are not in full communion with Rome and I refused to support anything that is not in full in communion with Rome. Please that the SSPX that will be in full communion with ROme soon
 
Thank you all for your very helpful answers.

I didn’t get an answer, though, to my last question. Is anyone aware of a missal which contains notations for saints’ Feast Days and other parts of our calendar?

Also, a new question: I know the new translation is coming in Advent, but when will the missal be released from publishers for lay people to see? Will it come out before the new translation of the Mass is celebrated, or after?
 
melchesidechpio said:
I too like another poster have the Fr. Lasance 1945 Missal. As far as 1962 Missals are concerned ( the last time the Tridentine mass was updated by Pope John XXIII) I would go with Barnonius Press and avoid the Angelus Press.
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You do realize St. John Cantius bookstore sell the Angelus Press missals, don’t you? The ones publishing the books aren’t necessarily out of communion with the church.
 
colleensarah said:
Thank you all for your very helpful answers.

I didn’t get an answer, though, to my last question. Is anyone aware of a missal which contains notations for saints’ Feast Days and other parts of our calendar?

Also, a new question: I know the new translation is coming in Advent, but when will the missal be released from publishers for lay people to see? Will it come out before the new translation of the Mass is celebrated, or after?
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Any Daily Missal you get - whether for the EF or the OF - should have both the Proper of Seasons and the Proper of Saints. It may be helpful to get an Ordo or Calendar or Missal Guide or something like that to help you know which is appropriate for a given day (i.e., on a given day and date, do you use the Saint of the Day or the prayers and readings of the seasonal Day?)

Your (perpetual) daily Missal would not remind you of specific First Fridays and such because it’s designed for every year, not for one particular year. You may find such reminders in some calendars. I hope this makes sense.

Here’s a link to the official Liturgical Calendar for 2011 from the USCCB (for the Ordinary Form, in the United States): usccb.org/liturgy/current/2011cal.pdf
 
ProVobis said:
You do realize St. John Cantius bookstore sell the Angelus Press missals, don’t you? The ones publishing the books aren’t necessarily out of communion with the church.
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Yes, but that doesn’t mean I am willing to support Angelus Press at all. Not until the SSPX is in full communion with Rome. Not to say that the Angelus Press missal is bad. I was even told by religious Brothers at a recent retreat that I should by the Baronius Press and not bother with the Angelus Press edition
 
melchesidechpio said:
Yes, but that doesn’t mean I am willing to support Angelus Press at all. Not until the SSPX is in full communion with Rome. Not to say that the Angelus Press missal is bad. I was even told by religious Brothers at a recent retreat that I should by the Baronius Press and not bother with the Angelus Press edition
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Fair enough. But how do I know Baronius Press employees and distributors are all in full communion with the Church?
 
ProVobis said:
Fair enough. But how do I know Baronius Press employees and distributors are all in full communion with the Church?
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Not the employees, but the official policy counts. The Baronius cared to obtain Nihil Obstat and Imprimatur. Either this, or the the letter of ‘identical with the original’ by the diocesan bishop of the publisher required for a Roman Catholic liturgical book.

The Angleus press Missal has only their own declaration about the identity.

In other hand the Nova et vetera Breviarium has the letter of identity by their local bishop of the publisher.
 
ProVobis said:
Fair enough. But how do I know Baronius Press employees and distributors are all in full communion with the Church?
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The Baronius Press missal carries more than just the nihil obstat and imprimatur, but it also has the Motu Propio, Summorum Pontificum. The Angelus Press has not the the Motu Propio
 
There is a website called www.aquinasandmore.com that I have used. They sell all things Catholic and will not sell shoddy or poor quality items. They have a shop in Colorado Springs. I have shopped both in the store and online and they are very reputable. They can provide you with information on missals for both Novus Ordo and the Extraordinary Mass. I, myself, have a deep affection for the Extraordinary Mass. I still have my old St. Josephs Daily Missal from my First Communion gift back in the early sixties.
 
Just another small note. The church that I go to has a priest who is a member of the Fraternity of St. Peter (FSSP). They are in full communion with the holy Mother Church and have the blessing of the belated Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict to offer the Traditional Latin Mass. They are not to be confused with the SSPX which is not in full communion with the Church as of yet. Some of those priests faced the possibility of ex-communication a few years back. I’m not sure what their current standing is.
 
melchesidechpio said:
The Baronius Press missal carries more than just the nihil obstat and imprimatur, but it also has the Motu Propio, Summorum Pontificum. The Angelus Press has not the the Motu Propio
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The bishop went to visit the little town. The usual custom was that all the bells were tolling when he arrived. He asked the pastor why the bells were mute. The pastor humbly answered: Your eminence, we have many reasons for that , but may be the first is enough: We have no bells yet.

The Angelus Press missal is 2004, the Motu Proprio is 2007
 
ProVobis said:
Fr Z has some comments on the Angelus

wdtprs.com/blog/2008/02/review-angelus-press-hand-missal/

and the Baronius

wdtprs.com/blog/2008/01/review-baronius-press-1962-hand-missal/

They both seem to have a problem with small Latin text. But then St. Andrews and Fr. Lasance aren’t that much better. Maybe they’ll publish a handmissal with just the Latin (in larger print) so the propers don’t have to be in two columns and so many words don’t have to be split.
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I have read these articles which are beautifully written. I agree with you on the small text of the missals
 
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