Question on ectopic pregnancy

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I know the Church requires removal of the tube for an ectopic pregnancy, however is it permissible to use the methotrexate injection if the embryo has already died?
 
I know little about the specific medical situation, but as a general rule, if the child is dead, it’s method of removal is not an issue so long as it’s medically appropriate.
 
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Please read this - everyone.

catholiceducation.org/en/science/ethical-issues/when-pregnancy-goes-awry-ectopic-pregnancies.html

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Ed, blessings and thanks for that link. I for one had no idea of the ramifications of the ectopic pregnancy matter and I am shocked and appalled.

I posted this yesterday accidentally in the wrong thread ( severe pain can lead to these error)
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Add us here in Ireland to your prayers please, where we are facing the possibility of legalised abortion in some cases…

breakingnews.ie/ireland/c…ge-763440.html

The issue is the same; total disregard for human life and the suffering of the unborn i

Do you know the poem.

Prayer before Birth?

I am not yet born; O hear me.
Let not the bloodsucking bat or the rat or the stoat or the
club-footed ghoul come near me.

I am not yet born, console me.
I fear that the human race may with tall walls wall me,
with strong drugs dope me, with wise lies lure me,
on black racks rack me, in blood-baths roll me.

I am not yet born; provide me
With water to dandle me, grass to grow for me, trees to talk
to me, sky to sing to me, birds and a white light
in the back of my mind to guide me.

I am not yet born; forgive me
For the sins that in me the world shall commit, my words
when they speak me, my thoughts when they think me,
my treason engendered by traitors beyond me,
my life when they murder by means of my
hands, my death when they live me.

I am not yet born; rehearse me
In the parts I must play and the cues I must take when
old men lecture me, bureaucrats hector me, mountains
frown at me, lovers laugh at me, the white
waves call me to folly and the desert calls
me to doom and the beggar refuses
my gift and my children curse me.

I am not yet born; O hear me,
Let not the man who is beast or who thinks he is God
come near me.

I am not yet born; O fill me
With strength against those who would freeze my
humanity, would dragoon me into a lethal automaton,
would make me a cog in a machine, a thing with
one face, a thing, and against all those
who would dissipate my entirety, would
blow me like thistledown hither and
thither or hither and thither
like water held in the
hands would spill me.

Let them not make me a stone and let them not spill me.
Otherwise kill me.

Louis Macneice

It moved me deeply as a young teacher and still does. All the more so with the issues raised here.

The unborn are our future, our life, living souls of immensity
 
TravisandJill said:
I know the Church requires removal of the tube for an ectopic pregnancy, however is it permissible to use the methotrexate injection if the embryo has already died?
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Methotrexate injection, as a tool to kill the embryo, is wrong because it is a direct and intentional killing and thus is not a licit means for any purpose. If the child is dead, this is no longer a relevant consideration.
 
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