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Ah, no. Hades is NOT Gahenna. Unless Jesus, descended to Gahenna, and preached to the souls there.
Hell is the lower levels of Hades.

CHAPTER LIX

A Detached Account of the Descent into Hell
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WHEN Jesus, after uttering a loud cry, expired, I saw his heavenly soul under the form of a bright meteor pierce the earth at the foot of the Cross, accompanied by the angel Gabriel and many other angels. His Divine nature continued united to his soul as well as to his body, which still remained hanging upon the Cross, but I cannot explain how this was, although I saw it plainly in my own mind. The place into which the soul of Jesus entered was divided into three parts, which appeared to me like three worlds; and I felt that they were round, and that each division was separated from the other by a hemisphere.

I beheld a bright and beautiful space opposite to Limbo; it was enamelled with flowers, delicious breezes wafted through it; and many souls were placed there before being admitted into Heaven after their deliverance from Purgatory. Limbo, the place where the souls were waiting for the Redemption, was divided into different compartments, and encompassed by a thick foggy atmosphere. Our Lord appeared radiant with light and surrounded by angels, who conducted him triumphantly between two of these compartments; the one on the left containing the patriarchs who lived before the time of Abraham, and that on the right those who lived between the days of Abraham and St. John Baptist. These souls did not at first recognise Jesus, but were filled nevertheless with sensations of joy and hope. There was not a spot in those narrow confines which did not, as it were, dilate with feelings of happiness. The passage of Jesus might be compared to the wafting of a breath of air, to a sudden flash of light, or to a shower of vivifying dew, but it was swift as a whirlwind. After passing through the two compartments, he reached a dark spot in which Adam and Eve were standing; he spoke to them, they prostrated and adored him in a perfect ecstasy of joy, and they immediately joined the band of angels, and accompanied our Lord to the compartment on the left, which contained the patriarchs who lived before Abraham. This compartment was a species of Purgatory, and a few evil spirits were wandering about among the souls and endeavouring to fill them with anxiety and alarm. The entrance through a species of door was closed, but the angels rapped, and I thought I heard them say, ‘Open these doors.’ When Jesus entered in triumph the demons dispersed, crying out at the same time, ‘What is there between thee and us? What art thou come to do here? Wilt thou crucify us likewise?’ The angels hunted them away, having first chained them. The poor souls confined in this place had only a slight presentiment and vague idea of the presence of Jesus; but the moment he told them that it was he himself, they burst out into acclamations of joy, and welcomed him with hymns of rapture and delight. The soul of our Lord then wended its way to the right, towards that part which really constituted Limbo; and there he met the soul of the good thief which angels were carrying to Abraham’s bosom, as also that of the bad thief being dragged by demons into Hell. Our Lord addressed a few words to both, and then entered Abraham’s bosom, accompanied by numerous angels and holy souls, and also by those demons who had been chained and expelled from the compartment.
jesus-passion.com/THE_PASSION6.htm#CHAPTER%20LIX
 
Hell is the lower levels of Hades.

CHAPTER LIX
A Detached Account of the Descent into Hell
Code:
WHEN Jesus, after uttering a loud cry, expired, I saw his heavenly soul under the form of a bright meteor pierce the earth at the foot of the Cross, accompanied by the angel Gabriel and many other angels. His Divine nature continued united to his soul as well as to his body, which still remained hanging upon the Cross, but I cannot explain how this was, although I saw it plainly in my own mind. The place into which the soul of Jesus entered was divided into three parts, which appeared to me like three worlds; and I felt that they were round, and that each division was separated from the other by a hemisphere.

I beheld a bright and beautiful space opposite to Limbo; it was enamelled with flowers, delicious breezes wafted through it; and many souls were placed there before being admitted into Heaven after their deliverance from Purgatory. Limbo, the place where the souls were waiting for the Redemption, was divided into different compartments, and encompassed by a thick foggy atmosphere. Our Lord appeared radiant with light and surrounded by angels, who conducted him triumphantly between two of these compartments; the one on the left containing the patriarchs who lived before the time of Abraham, and that on the right those who lived between the days of Abraham and St. John Baptist. These souls did not at first recognise Jesus, but were filled nevertheless with sensations of joy and hope. There was not a spot in those narrow confines which did not, as it were, dilate with feelings of happiness. The passage of Jesus might be compared to the wafting of a breath of air, to a sudden flash of light, or to a shower of vivifying dew, but it was swift as a whirlwind. After passing through the two compartments, he reached a dark spot in which Adam and Eve were standing; he spoke to them, they prostrated and adored him in a perfect ecstasy of joy, and they immediately joined the band of angels, and accompanied our Lord to the compartment on the left, which contained the patriarchs who lived before Abraham. This compartment was a species of Purgatory, and a few evil spirits were wandering about among the souls and endeavouring to fill them with anxiety and alarm. The entrance through a species of door was closed, but the angels rapped, and I thought I heard them say, ‘Open these doors.’ When Jesus entered in triumph the demons dispersed, crying out at the same time, ‘What is there between thee and us? What art thou come to do here? Wilt thou crucify us likewise?’ The angels hunted them away, having first chained them. The poor souls confined in this place had only a slight presentiment and vague idea of the presence of Jesus; but the moment he told them that it was he himself, they burst out into acclamations of joy, and welcomed him with hymns of rapture and delight. The soul of our Lord then wended its way to the right, towards that part which really constituted Limbo; and there he met the soul of the good thief which angels were carrying to Abraham’s bosom, as also that of the bad thief being dragged by demons into Hell. Our Lord addressed a few words to both, and then entered Abraham’s bosom, accompanied by numerous angels and holy souls, and also by those demons who had been chained and expelled from the compartment.
jesus-passion.com/THE_PASSION6.htm#CHAPTER%20LIX
Is Hell in this context Gahenna?
 
Hell is the lower levels of Hades.

CHAPTER LIX
A Detached Account of the Descent into Hell
Code:
WHEN Jesus, after uttering a loud cry, expired, I saw his heavenly soul under the form of a bright meteor pierce the earth at the foot of the Cross, accompanied by the angel Gabriel and many other angels. His Divine nature continued united to his soul as well as to his body, which still remained hanging upon the Cross, but I cannot explain how this was, although I saw it plainly in my own mind. The place into which the soul of Jesus entered was divided into three parts, which appeared to me like three worlds; and I felt that they were round, and that each division was separated from the other by a hemisphere.

I beheld a bright and beautiful space opposite to Limbo; it was enamelled with flowers, delicious breezes wafted through it; and many souls were placed there before being admitted into Heaven after their deliverance from Purgatory. Limbo, the place where the souls were waiting for the Redemption, was divided into different compartments, and encompassed by a thick foggy atmosphere. Our Lord appeared radiant with light and surrounded by angels, who conducted him triumphantly between two of these compartments; the one on the left containing the patriarchs who lived before the time of Abraham, and that on the right those who lived between the days of Abraham and St. John Baptist. These souls did not at first recognise Jesus, but were filled nevertheless with sensations of joy and hope. There was not a spot in those narrow confines which did not, as it were, dilate with feelings of happiness. The passage of Jesus might be compared to the wafting of a breath of air, to a sudden flash of light, or to a shower of vivifying dew, but it was swift as a whirlwind. After passing through the two compartments, he reached a dark spot in which Adam and Eve were standing; he spoke to them, they prostrated and adored him in a perfect ecstasy of joy, and they immediately joined the band of angels, and accompanied our Lord to the compartment on the left, which contained the patriarchs who lived before Abraham. This compartment was a species of Purgatory, and a few evil spirits were wandering about among the souls and endeavouring to fill them with anxiety and alarm. The entrance through a species of door was closed, but the angels rapped, and I thought I heard them say, ‘Open these doors.’ When Jesus entered in triumph the demons dispersed, crying out at the same time, ‘What is there between thee and us? What art thou come to do here? Wilt thou crucify us likewise?’ The angels hunted them away, having first chained them. The poor souls confined in this place had only a slight presentiment and vague idea of the presence of Jesus; but the moment he told them that it was he himself, they burst out into acclamations of joy, and welcomed him with hymns of rapture and delight. The soul of our Lord then wended its way to the right, towards that part which really constituted Limbo; and there he met the soul of the good thief which angels were carrying to Abraham’s bosom, as also that of the bad thief being dragged by demons into Hell. Our Lord addressed a few words to both, and then entered Abraham’s bosom, accompanied by numerous angels and holy souls, and also by those demons who had been chained and expelled from the compartment.
jesus-passion.com/THE_PASSION6.htm#CHAPTER%20LIX
Is Hell in this context Gahenna?
 
Is it for this? “It is a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead that they may be loosed from their sins.” – 2 Maccabees 12:46

The Haydock commentary posted is for 2 Maccabees 12:46.
Yes

“And they found under the coats of the slain some of the donaries of the idols of Jamnia, which the law forbiddeth to the Jews: so that all plainly saw, that for this cause they were slain. Then they all blessed the just judgment of the Lord, who had discovered the things that were hidden.”
 
Ah, no. Hades is NOT Gahenna. Unless Jesus, descended to Gahenna, and preached to the souls there.
No. He descended to Hades (Greek) or Sheol (Hebrew). Within that was Paradise (Abraham’s comforting bosom) and Gehenna (torment) with a big gulf in between the two. After His resurrection heaven was opened up, and paradise was let out is now in heaven (He led captivity captive, first fruits), where believers go when they die, and Gehenna remains below for unbelievers when they die.
What is the “that day” that St. Paul is talking about? Because he clearly is praying for someone who seems to be dead. Are his prayers applied retroactively?
Judgement seat of Christ, when saints christian works are judged, and we receive rewards.(some say when “duties” are discharged in the new kingdom ). That “day” has not happened yet. Hence Paul was not praying for the current condition of the deceased saint, for He preached that to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.

Blessings
 
Is Hell in this context Gahenna?
The vision describes many areas:

Heaven (Abraham’s bosom)
Space opposite Limbo (pre-Heaven)
Limbo (awaiting Redemption) compartments:
  • Left compartment (those before Abraham) species of Purgatory
  • Right compartment (Abraham to St. John the Baptist) really Limbo
  • Dark spot (Adam and Eve)
    Hell
It seems that Limbo/Purgatory is Hades and Gehenna is Hell.
 
In a thread I recently left, I was challenged about Purgatory and about God and things unclean. I will attempt to offer my own poor answer that may be unacceptable and I might get quote bombed for it ( which is fine. I think the work is unnecessary, but I appreciate the passion people put into it). Okay. I believe that Christ died for my sins. Personally, as if I were the only person in the world, He came to die for* me*. And* I* put Him to death,* I mocked Him, I flogged Him, I* declared my unwavering loyalty to Him just to deny Him three times.* I* kissed His cheek to identify Him to a blood thirsty mob. I nailed Him to the Cross. Since my Baptism, God looks at me and sees Jesus.He cleansed me from my sin nearly 2000 years ago. " It is finished!" He cried. There is no need for Purgatory because, as stinking a bag of **** and worms that I am, He cleansed me. At my Baptism, every time I approach the Altar to partake of His Body and Blood, quite simply, I am forgiven! Every time I approach my minister, privately and as part of the Divine Service congregation and I am absolved from my sins, again, I am forgiven! That’s how the faith produces the love that is expressed in following the Law and doing good works!* I’m *not the one who does them. He Who began a good work in me will bring it to completion on the Day of Christ Jesus. How do I take the Sacrament in a worthy fashion? Simply to believe that Jesus meant what He said when he said that " this is My Body" and " this is My Blood." Simply to share the Confession of the Congregation. Innovation or not, perhaps Purgatory does exist, if that means that the Holy Spirit is constantly at work purging the old Adam out of Christ’s people. Innovations are not necessarily false, perhaps a revelation put to a comprehensive form, like sola fide. Aye, indeed, I see no problem with certain ideas of purification, as in a very real sense, we are all purified in the eyes of God through Christ!
This is quite long, however, Purgatory is explain quite well. It is the Addis Catholic Dictionary on Purgatory.
 
This is quite long, however, Purgatory is explain quite well. It is the Addis Catholic Dictionary on Purgatory.
Excellent! That was definitely long, but well worth reading it all. I found something in it that I thought was interesting from St. Cyril of Jerusalem, concerning prayers for the dead. So, I did a little digging on New Advent and found this. It’s a lecture on the parts of the Mass:St Cyril of Jerusalem

Catechetical Lecture 23 (On the Mysteries. V.)

On the Sacred Liturgy and Communion.

*"9. Then we commemorate also those who have fallen asleep before us, first Patriarchs, Prophets, Apostles, Martyrs, that at their prayers and intercessions God would receive our petition. Then on behalf also of the Holy Fathers and Bishops who have fallen asleep before us, and in a word of all who in past years have fallen asleep among us, believing that it will be a very great benefit to the souls, for whom the supplication is put up, while that holy and most awful sacrifice is set forth. (this refers to the moment of Consecration, which is the point at which our prayers for the departed are offered to God)
  1. And I wish to persuade you by an illustration. For I know that many say, what is a soul profited, which departs from this world either with sins, or without sins, if it be commemorated in the prayer? For if a king were to banish certain who had given him offense, and then those who belong to them should weave a crown and offer it to him on behalf of those under punishment, would he not grant a remission of their penalties? In the same way we, when we offer to Him our supplications for those who have fallen asleep, though they be sinners, weave no crown, but offer up Christ sacrificed for our sins, propitiating our merciful God for them as well as for ourselves." (Apparently, this was an ancient custom that he is referring to, in bold.) *
    I don’t know why, but as soon as I read this (about the families of someone who was banished by the king, weaving a crown as a gift to the king, to beg his pardon for them), I thought of the crown of thorns. I realize that the Romans did it to mock Jesus as “king of the Jews”, but I couldn’t help but wonder if there might also have been some symbolic significance for the souls in Purgatory, there. It was just a random thought that popped into my head. Food for thought? 🤷
 
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