Two year olds cannot vote. Do they get treated as you want the unborn treated? I mean they cannot vote either.
They are citizens, they have rights, but a unborn is not a citizen, cause you have to born to be a citizen, unless they modify the requirments to be a U.S. Citizen.
** I support Abortion if it was due to a Rape,**
**Are you saying the unborn baby should be executed because the father was a rapist?
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or if the mother will die and the baby, during the pregnancy.
This is very rare.
No, but the mother might not want the child, and I believe the rapist should be executed, I’d support the execution of him.
It happens, even if its rare, it does happen.
The law is needed because objectively it is wrong to murder.
Says who?
It becomes a child when it becomes a child. It does not become a child to you and to me on differing days. Any time you decide, other than conception, is arbitrary.
Who is to say it is Murder if you kill a thing that is not yet born?
If the baby is born, as in, it is out of the mother and alive, then it is a US Citizen, because it was born in the United States of America, then it has rights.
Then we could still have slavery. If most people want it and the government agrees then it must be ok to have slavery? Do the slaves get a say in it?
No we wouldn’t slavery was very in-efficient. What would we use slaves for? Servants? Only the very wealthy could afford that, and I doubt their morality would be so cold to allow them to have slaves. We would not use slaves for manual labor on farms, cause people like me, use that as a job, and we fill up the ranks of it pretty good.
I would guess so, that was the way it was for a long time, idk, if their considered citizens I guess they would.
I think that your should re-think your moral priorities by (“not”) basing your rational on the moral justice system of mankind in any country verses God’s moral justice in the Ten Commandments. (“Thou shalt not Kill”). And that applies to anyone who supports abortion no matter what the circumstances including (“Rape”). I have read material about women who made the wrong choice to abort their babies inside their wombs. Even though many of these women did not have a history of rape they were and are still painfully haunted inside their heart after realizing inside their conscious the moral implications of their choice to destroy and murder the human life-soul within them. Rape is no doubt a horrid life-time affliction.
I could not imagine wrestling with the painful stigma of knowing what it would be like for any woman who chose to abort their child, to fully comprehend the gravity of their moral indignation, Even if God did grant them merciful forgiveness they would still carry a heavy cross.
I do not care about God’s moral justice, that is his, not mine, and I am not gonna base mine on his, I make mine out of others. To you it is a wrong choice, but your morals are not the laws of this nation, and when one man’s morality becomes the basis of all our nation’s laws, is the day our nation becomes a dictatorship.
So if the government decided tomorrow that if a grown man decided he should be able to have an intimate relationship with boys anywhere from the age 5 and up and the rest of the country voted 51% to 49% for this new law you would be okay with that? Keep in mind that these boys cannot vote for themselves.
The idea of going along with something just because the government says it is okay and because the majority of the population says it is okay seems a little scary doesn’t?
The boys have rights, and that law would conflict with the laws, and they would have to first get rid of the laws giving the boys rights.
Better then following morals of one man, or one people for the government.
Originally Posted by BareKnuckler
You’ve lost me.
If your willing to go against the majority of America, to get a law passed that isn’t actually supported by the majority, because of your religion, then other religions that are ok or neutral, on the subject, lose their equality.
You do understand that murdering another is not just a religious issue right. There are many atheists for example who are against abortion and recognize it as what it is murder.
Example please.
Slavery was wrong, but it was a foundation of America, and it was abolished, because some people realized it was wrong, but it was abolished democractically in July 9, 1868 (this is when it was made an amendment, the EP was passed in 1863)
When does the fetus become a child, to you? When it is formed, like the exact second, or when sperm enters the female, or a certain amount of time after the formation?
While obviously when it is a sperm entering the female is a sperm but when the sperm and the egg unit it beomes much more, a unique never before made human being and nothing else. so just as science has proven time and time again a person becomes a person at conception, not before and not after.
It does, when you do it, against the majority of Americans, cause of your religious beliefs.
Again stopping someone from murdering someone else is not necessary a religious belief, it is a compassionate human belief.
I do not believe so.
That is their opinoin. Murder is part of religion, Christians (I believe all do) follow the Ten Commandments, that stops them (or should anyways) from killing people, that is religion stopping someone from breaking a law, or trying to in any case.
Ok, thank you for telling me when you consider a baby, a baby.
It is a religious belief for many, including Christians.
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