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Thank you for your comments? In re: to Covenants in above: #21- Fidelis suggested I read
and I have started to read this, Scott Hahn’s course, and am learning a lot already. I was surprised to find in that course that Noah’s nakedness had to do with incest. (underlined for URL ref)
"What’s going on in the story of Ham uncovering “his father’s nakedness” (see Genesis 9:22)? In Hebrew, this phrase is a figure of speech used to describe incest (Leviticus 20:17; 18:6-18. Note: In other places besides the story of Noah and Ham, The New American Bible translates this phrase as “to have intercourse with.” The Revised Standard Version in all cases keeps the more literal translation “uncover the nakedness of.” See RSV-Leviticus 20:17; 18:6-18).
To uncover the nakedness of your father is to commit incest with your mother. To state it bluntly, in all its brutality - while Noah was drunk, Ham slept with his mother. We don’t know what Ham was thinking. It could be that he wanted to seize power from his dad and this heinous act was his way of insulting Noah and showing his total disrespect (see similar episodes in Genesis 29:32; 35:22; 49:3-4; 2 Samuel 16:21-22).
But notice that Noah doesn’t curse Ham. He curses Canaan - the son born of this incestuous encounter. Why Canaan? It’s another hint in the text of what Ham’s crime was. As we’ll see later, Canaan will be the founding father of a nation that will be known for its abominable practice of maternal incest (see Leviticus 18:6-18; Exodus 23:23-24).
Canaan is the bad fruit born of Noah’s sin. But as Adam bore both Cain, the slayer of his brother, and Seth the righteous one, Noah too has a good seed: his firstborn son Shem, who had tried to “cover” his father’s nakedness (see Genesis 9:23).
As he curses Canaan, the bad seed, Noah blesses Shem: “Blessed be the Lord, the God of Shem” (see Genesis 9:26) and says that he will prevail over the wicked spawn, Canaan.
It is interesting to note, too, that the only other episode of drunkenness in Genesis is also associated with incest - and the birth of immoral nations hostile to the people of God. That’s the story of Lot’s daughters, who ply Lot with wine and then lie with him in incestuous unions that are the origin of the Moabites and the Ammonites (see Genesis 19:30-38)."
I have gotten in my reading up to Joseph before slavery into Egypt and just read it was 430 years which includes 30 good years under the leadership of Joseph.
Bible reading is soooo interesting and peaks my curiosity but to do a good job in reading it and understanding it is very time consuming. That doesn’t mean I won’t take the time as long as I can, God willing, and why wouldn’t He will it? and I’ll try to combine the reading with other’s references and suggestions as to how to proceed.
Dona