Questions about sterilization

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Ovulation kits are never foolproof- neither is nfp as you’ve mentioned. Using the morning after pill seriously runs the risk of aborting a baby- and since the purpose of the pill is to prevent pregnancy (and is not just a side effect) that is intrinsically evil.
Over the counter ovulation kits may not be accurate (I really have no idea) but it is possible to accurately monitor the female menstrual cycle using ultrasound, which would presumably be available in a hospital setting where the drug would be administered.
 
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No. Contraception is forbidden under ALL circumstances. I am happy to stand corrected if you can direct me to the Church document that states it only applies to marriage and that outside marriage it is allowed.
I thought this too, but then I tried to find a church document that said this, and I could not. Everyone I read indicated that to contracept during the conjugal embrace was sinful, but no mention of outside of marriage. Seriously, if you find an official document that claims contraception in general is evil, or at least one that doesn’t specify “the marital embrace” I’d really like to see it.
 
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I thought this too, but then I tried to find a church document that said this, and I could not. Everyone I read indicated that to contracept during the conjugal embrace was sinful, but no mention of outside of marriage. Seriously, if you find an official document that claims contraception in general is evil, or at least one that doesn’t specify “the marital embrace” I’d really like to see it.
Did you see the article I posted? It has references to papal documents.
 
Did you see the article I posted? It has references to papal documents.
It’s referring to preventing implantation. But if a person hasn’t ovulated yet- and that can and is tested for- there is no abortion, in which case it is acting as a contraceptive, and the bishops and the catholic bioethics people say it’s okay.
ncbcenter.org/page.aspx?pid=301
 
I’m of course planning to stay abstinent the best I can but it’s not always possible because a huge amount of men are rapists. If I got a sterilization it’d protect me from getting pregnant from rape. Besides, why should I stay fertile if I plan to stay single for my whole life? I don’t need my fertility, it’s completely useless.
What do you judge the probability of rape to be for a woman such as yourself motivated to avoid dangerous situations and conscious of the risks? Very, very, low.

Your body is not yours to mutilate according to the perceived needs of the parts.

Perhaps you have a particularly negative view of men?
 
No. Contraception is forbidden under ALL circumstances. I am happy to stand corrected if you can direct me to the Church document that states it only applies to marriage and that outside marriage it is allowed.
I think if you read Humanae Vitae and the related commentary by Jimmy Akin, it is clear that, in its teaching, the Church contemplates a particular context when it speaks of contraception. You may reason and speculate outside that context, but you do so at your own risk.

The specific acts here discussed are the interruption of a rape, not contraception.
 
That is not true. The Church does not permit the morning after pill. The reason why it is not okay is that the earliest a conception can be detected is 4 days which means it cannot be certain that the morning after pill is not an abortifacient.
Which is a question of potential abortion, not of contraception.
 
If the act done is to interrupt a rape, that is not the moral act of contraception, any more than heaving the rapist off the victim’s body mid-act is an act of contraception.
It cracks me up because we JUST had this discussion. You’re like the contraception teaching police! But seriously, good job!
 
It cracks me up because we JUST had this discussion. You’re like the contraception teaching police! But seriously, good job!
I noticed your were “filling in for me” on this thread before I saw it! 🙂
 
In 2001 the USCCB wrote this:

It is in fact possible to detect ovulation (or lack thereof) using ultrasound.
It is NOT possible to detect conception within 4 days, and certainly nothing can be detected the morning after.
 
I’ve got some helpful answers so thank you very much everybody. I’ll ask a priest too if I get a chance to do so.
 
It is NOT possible to detect conception within 4 days, and certainly nothing can be detected the morning after.
I don’t know whether or not that is true. What I DO know is that it is possible to use transvaginal ultrasound to detect whether or not the follicle has ruptured (ovulation). Hence, a rape victim taken to the hospital can be reasonably sure whether that she has or has not ovulated yet. If she has not, the US bishops agree that she should be permitted to prevent conception by taking a drug that would suppress ovulation, which is one of the ways that Plan B and other morning after pills work.
 
I don’t know whether or not that is true. What I DO know is that it is possible to use transvaginal ultrasound to detect whether or not the follicle has ruptured (ovulation). Hence, a rape victim taken to the hospital can be reasonably sure whether that she has or has not ovulated yet. If she has not, the US bishops agree that she should be permitted to prevent conception by taking a drug that would suppress ovulation, which is one of the ways that Plan B and other morning after pills work.
Let me say it again. The CHURCH does not allow the morning after pill to be taken.
 
Let me say it again. The CHURCH does not allow the morning after pill to be taken.
Thistle, the bishops ARE the Church. To say “the church does not allow the morning after pill” is correct, in a sense, because contraception and abortion are immoral. But the US and German bishops, in speaking to the context that we are discussing, have said that taking a medication to prevent ovulation following rape does not constitute contraception, any more than, say, pushing a rapist off you prior to ejaculation would be the sin of withdrawal.
 
Thistle, the bishops ARE the Church. To say “the church does not allow the morning after pill” is correct, in a sense, because contraception and abortion are immoral. But the US and German bishops, in speaking to the context that we are discussing, have said that taking a medication to prevent ovulation following rape does not constitute contraception, any more than, say, pushing a rapist off you prior to ejaculation would be the sin of withdrawal.
You are wrong. They are going against the Church’s teaching. The morning after pill DOES constitute contraception. ANY artificial means to prevent contraception is a grave sin. The Church does not teach exceptions. Exceptions put forward by a few Bishops are not the Church’s teachings. If it were a Church teaching then the Vatican would put it out to the entire world. It has not.
 
ANY artificial means to prevent contraception is a grave sin. The Church does not teach exceptions.
Okay so thistle: A woman is being raped and she does not want him to get her pregnant. She pushes her attacker off her to prevent him from ejaculating inside of her.

Is she guilty of coitus interruptus? If not, why not?
 
Okay so thistle: A woman is being raped and she does not want him to get her pregnant. She pushes her attacker off her to prevent him from ejaculating inside of her.

Is she guilty of coitus interruptus? If not, why not?
No she is not. That is self defense from an attacker. Totally different from contraception.
 
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