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I agree! But she is trying to prevent conception also, so… why doesn’t that make it contraception?No she is not. That is self defense from an attacker. Totally different from contraception.
I agree! But she is trying to prevent conception also, so… why doesn’t that make it contraception?No she is not. That is self defense from an attacker. Totally different from contraception.
So, should a villain insert semen into a woman with an eye-dropper, would she be wrong to take steps to prevent conception? Does forced penile penetration (rape) constitute a different moral case? What about a woman heaving the rapist from her body prior to Ejaculation?You are wrong. They are going against the Church’s teaching. The morning after pill DOES constitute contraception. ANY artificial means to prevent contraception is a grave sin. The Church does not teach exceptions. Exceptions put forward by a few Bishops are not the Church’s teachings. If it were a Church teaching then the Vatican would put it out to the entire world. It has not.
Correct. And the right to stop the violation does not end with the arrival of semen. The Bishops who have approved treatment post rape acknowledge this. They acknowledge that such treatment is not the moral act of contraception.No she is not. That is self defense from an attacker. Totally different from contraception.
But that is not the teaching of the Church!Correct. And the right to stop the violation does not end with the arrival of semen. The Bishops who have approved treatment post rape acknowledge this. They acknowledge that such treatment is not the moral act of contraception.
Thistle, You keep insisting this, and yet you have not provided anything that shows that the Church treats cases of rape the same way it treats consensual marital intercourse.But that is not the teaching of the Church!
Why don’t you get? I can’t show you something that does not exist!!!Thistle, You keep insisting this, and yet you have not provided anything that shows that the Church treats cases of rape the same way it treats consensual marital intercourse.
The sin of contraception is in separating the unitive and procreative aspects of the marital embrace. But with rape there is no unitive or marital meaning of the sexual encounter, so it makes sense that there be no sin in refusing the procreative aspect.
If a woman is being raped, you agree that she ought to have the right to push off her offender, even if her primary motivation for doing so is that she will not become pregnant, correct? You agree that this is self-defense. Why does her right to stop her offender cease when his body leaves and it is only his sperm that he leaves behind?
Show me whether the Church teaches otherwise and you’ll convince me. But you’ll need to offer something more solid than just your repeated assertions that it is so.
I think this conversation has probably reached the end of its usefulness. You believe me to be wrong, I believe you’re wrong.Why don’t you get? I can’t show you something that does not exist!!!
The Church teaching is clear that no artificial means of contraception is permitted. It does NOT say that rape is an exception. Please show me a Church document that teaches universally (not locally by some Bishops) that rape is an exception.
What is your response to post #62?Why don’t you get? I can’t show you something that does not exist!!!
The Church teaching is clear that no artificial means of contraception is permitted. It does NOT say that rape is an exception. Please show me a Church document that teaches universally (not locally by some Bishops) that rape is an exception.