Questions & Answers On The Inquisition/s

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Shadowcry:
I never said Francis Xavier used violence.
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Did any Christian missionaries use violence against the people of Goa or were the brutality and rapes exclusively committed by Portuguese soldiers?

You say my article is propaganda but it clearly shows St. Francis Xavier as bringing the word of God to the people. And it clearly states that the violence of the Portuguese soldiers was in conflict with what the missionaries were doing.
 
I said I dont trust new Advent it is filled with propoganda. Maybe if you had another article on it perhaps?
 
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Shadowcry:
I said I dont trust new Advent it is filled with propoganda. Maybe if you had another article on it perhaps?
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If you can find one from a source you trust, I’ll look at it. Being Catholic, I trust sources that are Catholic. It is not propaganda to me. I’ve presented you with my side, the burden of proof now falls on you to show how the Catholic source on this is wrong.
 
You trust sources that are Catholic despite it being propoganda.

Well if you insist I will find a Hindu article to be a counterpoint to new Advent.
 
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Shadowcry:
You trust sources that are Catholic despite it being propoganda.

Well if you insist I will find a Hindu article to be a counterpoint to new Advent.
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O.K. I don’t know why you are frustrated with me. It’s not my burden to prove your statements about the Goan Inquisition. You presented this idea to me. You are responsible for backing your statements up. It is not my responsibility to prove your side of the debate.
 
Sorry I didn’t mean to sound frustrated but I just hate New Advent.

Here is a site to read as well. It contains propoganda but then again everytihng does.It is not Hindu though it explains why the Inquisition in Goa was horrible.

apol.net/dightonrock/inquisition_goa.htm
 
Dont be fooled by muslims. South asian muslims hate the portuguese and british for wresting the indian subcontinent from muslim rule. Portuguese defeated the Sultan of Bijapur to take control of Goa.
 
By New Advent I presume you mean the old Catholic Encyclopedia published around 1910.

The Merriam-Webster online dictionary defines ‘propaganda’ as:
  • the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person
    3 : ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one’s cause or to damage an opposing cause; *
Will you give me some examples of entries in the Catholic Encylopedia which you consider propaganda.
 
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mandolin:
Dont be fooled by muslims. South asian muslims hate the portuguese and british for wresting the indian subcontinent from muslim rule. Portuguese defeated the Sultan of Bijapur to take control of Goa.
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So.
 
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yinekka:
By New Advent I presume you mean the old Catholic Encyclopedia published around 1910.

The Merriam-Webster online dictionary defines ‘propaganda’ as:
  • the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person
    3 : ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one’s cause or to damage an opposing cause; *
Will you give me some examples of entries in the Catholic Encylopedia which you consider propaganda.
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Just look at its section on Islam.
 
I’ve read beyond what is claimed in the article provided by shadowcry to find that the whole of India before the missionaries and the Portuguese soldiers arrived was troubled. The Hindus were persecuting those of the lower castes, the Muslims were forcing conversions through taxes as well as violence, newly converted Christians were being persecuted by both. The lines are very blurred here. I saw references to “secular” Portuguese quite a bit. And usually a papal decree has a paper trail but I did not see the document produced in de Mello’s work. I also found another site written by an Indian claiming that de Mello (author of shadowcry’s article) had an agenda but the site was very anti-Semitic so it was not appropriate to post. I have to do more reading before I can comment more on the indictment in de Mello’s perspective on what occurred in Goa.
 
Goan hindus converted to Christianity to escape muslim persecution. An important point to remember is that the Portuguese were invited by the Hindus for protection from muslim oppression.
 
Thank you Mandolin for filling us in on some of the details of a history that, I for one, am not too familiar with.
 
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mandolin:
Goan hindus converted to Christianity to escape muslim persecution. An important point to remember is that the Portuguese were invited by the Hindus for protection from muslim oppression.
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Lol no. The Portugese annexed Goa the Hindus didn’t Invite them. What are you talking about.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goa

Next time please get some evidence before you come with your bias.
 
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Shadowcry:
Lol no. The Portugese annexed Goa the Hindus didn’t Invite them. What are you talking about.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goa

Next time please get some evidence before you come with your bias.
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Unfortunately, Wikipedia can be edited by anyone. It’s not always a reliable source. Two Senators in the U.S. were found to have staff members editing out scandals from their profiles on Wikipedia recently. The edits were traced back to the Senators’ offices.
 
Shadowcry, what in particular in the Catholic Encyclopedia entries on Islam do you regard as propaganda?

For someone who trumpets that the Catholic Encyclopedia uses propaganda and therefore should not be trusted don’t you think it is an example of a double standard when told that Wikipedia is not a reliable source and therefore should not be quoted as ‘fact’ you don’t seem to mind? :confused:
 
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