Questions from a newlywed

[lizaanne]

And when did I tell anybody how to think?

I notice you have evaded the suggestion and have not updated your profile.

Quite telling.

~Liza

 

[kage_ar]

Here is a Catholic marriage group:

exceptionalmarriages.com/

Also suggest Gregory K. Popcak’s new book “Holy Sex!” You can find it at Amazon.

 

[newbetx]

I notice you have evaded the suggestion and have not updated your profile.

Quite telling.

~Liza

…For that specific question, I dont think it would be found there. Hmmmmm…could someone please pass the TROLL repellent?? Pastor Jim. I think you are throwing loaded comments out there to provoke mess…

:newidea:

I hate to do this, I really do, I’m not even married, but…

I do declare, on this Wednesday, July 30, 2008 that this thread has been officially hijacked.

Exactly. Please stop trying to beat up “Pastor” Jim on this thread.

“Never argue with a fool…”

OP, great advice here if you can find the pertainent posts. I can’t stress enough the value of reading Catholic approved texts that are being recommended and finding your own way from there. Let us know how your are doing (well, not the details, but in general), OK?

 

[wifenmommy]

I’m sorry you think that suggesting that somebody who’s claiming to be a Christian might go to the Bible for his answer is such an outrageous thing.

Ummmm…no person in their right mind would think that the Bible is an appropriate place for a direct answer regarding this couples specific marital relations issue. Could you point out a passage that would be in direct corrolation to what the op needs??? I read the Bible daily mister, so dont go there. Your posts PROVE that you, sir, are a troll out to cause mess. If I need financial advise, a recipe, how to wire my house, how to take care of a child, how to balance a check book, ect, ect…is that found in the Bible too??? God gave us minds to think and to process problems and to figure out answers, hence asking questions or reading a “how to” mannual…geesh:shrug:

 

[newbetx]

Ummmm…no person in their right mind would think that the Bible is an appropriate place for a direct answer regarding this couples specific marital relations issue. Could you point out a passage that would be in direct corrolation to what the op needs??? I read the Bible daily mister, so dont go there. Your posts PROVE that you, sir, are a troll out to cause mess. If I need financial advise, a recipe, how to wire my house, how to take care of a child, how to balance a check book, ect, ect…is that found in the Bible too??? God gave us minds to think and to process problems and to figure out answers, hence asking questions or reading a “how to” mannual…geesh:shrug:

Actually, there is a verse that goes something like this (see, no scholar here)…
“A marriage bed can not be defiled.” Many have pointed to this to justify that “anything goes.”

 

[wifenmommy]

Actually, there is a verse that goes something like this (see, no scholar here)…
“A marriage bed can not be defiled.” Many have pointed to this to justify that “anything goes.”

Hmmm… noggin scratcher…I dont think that the wife is intentially “defiling” the marriage bed. I think that she may just need a physical to rule out anything that could be causing it. I think with only a week into the marriage, she could still be tired from all the preparations! She also could be nervous and need time to adapt to married life! …still, I’m sorry~the Bible is a wonderful book, but not an actual honest to goodness marital relations guide!

 

[Pastor_Jim]

Ummmm…no person in their right mind would think that the Bible is an appropriate place for a direct answer regarding this couples specific marital relations issue. Could you point out a passage that would be in direct corrolation to what the op needs?

I would point you toward the Song of Solomon, which gives very good counsel on sex within a marriage.

If I need financial advise, a recipe, how to wire my house, how to take care of a child, how to balance a check book, ect, ect…is that found in the Bible too?

Actually, yes, the Bible does give very good counsel on financial matters and child rearing.

 

[Pastor_Jim]

:newidea:

Exactly. Please stop trying to beat up “Pastor” Jim on this thread.

“Never argue with a fool…”

I wonder what would happen if I called one of the Catholics here a fool.

 

[wifenmommy]

I would point you toward the Song of Solomon, which gives very good counsel on sex within a marriage.

Actually, yes, the Bible does give very good counsel on financial matters and child rearing.

Please stop being a pain. Yes, the Bible gives good councel. The OP needed SPECIFIC advice for a SPECIFIC ISSUE. Leave us alone TROLL! Everyone…do not waste one more keystroke on this instigator.

 

[newbetx]

Hmmm… noggin scratcher…I dont think that the wife is intentially “defiling” the marriage bed. I think that she may just need a physical to rule out anything that could be causing it. I think with only a week into the marriage, she could still be tired from all the preparations! She also could be nervous and need time to adapt to married life! …still, I’m sorry~the Bible is a wonderful book, but not an actual honest to goodness marital relations guide!

Oh, we are really not talking about the same thing…:nope:

I wasn’t trying to say the wife is doing anything wrong and did not mean to imply it… Your assessment may be right on the mark. I was not trying to specifically try to analyze the background of the situation.

He asked a specific question about lube and deciding to quit after going a ways. And someone said that that wasn’t in the bible. I was mearly pointing out that some people point to that passage to justify “anything goes, don’t worry about it.” Personally, I don’t think ‘anything’ meaning “absolutely everything is proper.” But much is, as is explained elsewhere.

I agree the bible specifically isn’t a sex manual. That is why I and others have suggested some other Catholic approved texts on the subject. But most of TOB is based on what IS in the Bible. What I read forms a " proper attitude" about sex. Once that is understood, the details can easily be determined if they fit the context or not.

Peace!

 

[newbetx]

I wonder what would happen if I called one of the Catholics here a fool.

Well, actually I wasn’t calling you a fool… In fact, I agree with some of what you say. There are marital relation references in the Bible.

We tend to have dissagreements and both sides end up looking like fools is what I meant to imply.

Peace.

 

[wifenmommy]

Oh, we are really not talking about the same thing…:nope:

I wasn’t trying to say the wife is doing anything wrong and did not mean to imply it… Your assessment may be right on the mark. I was not trying to specifically try to analyze the background of the situation.

He asked a specific question about lube and deciding to quit after going a ways. And someone said that that wasn’t in the bible. I was mearly pointing out that some people point to that passage to justify “anything goes, don’t worry about it.” Personally, I don’t think ‘anything’ meaning “absolutely everything is proper.” But much is, as is explained elsewhere.

I agree the bible specifically isn’t a sex manual. That is why I and others have suggested some other Catholic approved texts on the subject. But most of TOB is based on what IS in the Bible. What I read forms a " proper attitude" about sex. Once that is understood, the details can easily be determined if they fit the context or not.

Peace!

Got it!! We are on the same page now!! I totally agree with your post!! Well put!

 

[Magicsilence]

“Mommeee! Daddieeee! What are you doing in there?”

I remember when I was banging on my parents (locked) door because E.T was coming to ‘eat’ me. I’m sure that was weeeird to hear

Incidentally, what do you tell kids that ask

 

[newbetx]

I remember when I was banging on my parents (locked) door because E.T was coming to ‘eat’ me. I’m sure that was weeeird to hear

Incidentally, what do you tell kids that ask

First, you start a new thread.

 

[Traddy]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Magicsilence View Post

I remember when I was banging on my parents (locked) door because E.T was coming to ‘eat’ me. I’m sure that was weeeird to hear

Incidentally, what do you tell kids that ask
First, you start a new thread.

So who’s gonna make it? it’d be great!

 

[Traddy]

“Mommy and daddy are taking a nap”

 

[Pastor_Jim]

Please stop being a pain. Yes, the Bible gives good councel. The OP needed SPECIFIC advice for a SPECIFIC ISSUE.

So then, if the Bible gives good counsel, then why do you get so upset when I say that we should consult it for counsel?

Leave us alone TROLL!

Why are the Catholics here so rude? Really, the name calling does not represent your organization well at all.

 

[Pastor_Jim]

Well, actually I wasn’t calling you a fool…

Here you go:

newbetx:

Exactly. Please stop trying to beat up “Pastor” Jim on this thread.

“Never argue with a fool…”

 

[lizaanne]

Why are the Catholics here so rude? Really, the name calling does not represent your organization well at all.

I notice you still have not updated your profile and provided any credentials “Pastor”. When do you plan to do this?

~Liza

 

[Neal]

Many of our evangelical brothers don’t have proper credentials as far as being a pastor, if one has preaching talent and is leading a church they are called paster,

pastor Jim, does this apply to you?

also the reason people are calling you a troll is that you seem to be using this topic and some others to argue the point of sola scriptura, in which case you should go to the appropriate forum to discuss this issue. This guy, the OP, had a very specific issue and we are trying to answer this issue according to our faith, founded on sacred tradition AND sacred scipture. The reason why many are coming off as hostile is that they view your posts as attack on our religion.

Everyone calm down, pastor Jim, you made your point, we catholics made our point, lets get back to answering the actual topic question, shall we.