Questions regarding Maronites

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Thank you for clarifying your concerns. This is the type of dialogue I wish. Quite simply, I believe Maronite incense (with which I am much more familiar than the incense used in any other denominational Catholic church) is one of the most beautiful smells I have ever experienced, and every time I smell it, I am immediately taken back to my great-grandmother’s funeral when I was about ten years old. That is why I want to make a slightly-modified form of said incense. It is not at all meant to disrespect anyone or any beliefs; rather it ought to be seen as flattery. It is an unforgettable smell, and if I can get pretty close to it, it would make me happy to have portions of my home share that scent in a purely secular sense, which (I apologize for repeating myself) is not prohibited in any way, providing the recipe is not exact, and that it is not used in any way for any religious purpose.
And, of course, I have enough respect for the Catholic religion and its denominations to never use a censer or other religious hardware to create aromas. If I do not use the true and exact recipe, then please do not think of me as someone who is mocking the deep-rooted meanings and ecclesiastical principles of the Maronite faith. It is the one with which I am most familiar, and would simply like something reminiscent of the aroma.

I don’t suppose anyone here needs to be reminded that all ancient orders of Catholicism base their incense on those recipes used by Jews in the Holy Temples. Please do not think me disrespectful. I am among the most inquisitive and respectful people you will ever meet when it comes to religious discussions and debates. I would never mean to demean the deep symbolism of incense in the Maronite tradition. I only want to bring a pleasant (and again, BY NO MEANS IDENTICAL) scent into my home. I really do intend it as flattery, not mockery. I am too principled to mock anyone for anything. The beauty of this nation is that you, I, and all others have the unprecedented freedom to participate in religion however we see fit, and we are given the knowledge regarding how to ensure that we do not offend those who practice other religions while going about our daily activities.

I wish to be friends with you all, not adversaries. If anyone has further concerns, let’s talk about them in a formal, professional, and congenial manner.
 
Unless one of our other posters knows more than I and I welcome the (name removed by moderator)ut - but I don’t think there is any such thing as a particularly “Maronite” blend of incense. Every parish I have attended uses different incense. Here we change the incense every single day. 🤷
 
:hmmm: I fear I am entering something that might not end which I don’t even want to begin, so I will try to be brief in my response to you, Kornblatt, so as to discourage dialogue.
Quite simply, I believe Maronite incense (with which I am much more familiar than the incense used in any other denominational Catholic church) is one of the most beautiful smells I have ever experienced, and every time I smell it, I am immediately taken back to my great-grandmother’s funeral when I was about ten years old. That is why I want to make a slightly-modified form of said incense. It is not at all meant to disrespect anyone or any beliefs; rather it ought to be seen as flattery. It is an unforgettable smell, and if I can get pretty close to it, it would make me happy to have portions of my home share that scent in a purely secular sense, which (I apologize for repeating myself) is not prohibited in any way, providing the recipe is not exact, and that it is not used in any way for any religious purpose.
Put simply, there is little that can be said about your own motivations or religious knowledge, as neither are at issue. But it bears repeating that for the sake of those who use the incense with the understanding reflected in the Maronite prayer I posted, the question should not involve what is permitted, but what is acceptable (and, frankly, decent). For instance, before I was baptized into Orthodoxy I was a Roman Catholic, but I do not ask my Latin friends to design for me a zucchetto so that I may modify it with flashing lights or something, in order to still have the experience/sensory connection of wearing one but in a secular, non-religious context. Why? That would be ridiculous, and deeply disrespectful even if I didn’t mean it to be.

Granted, that’s an exaggerated hypothetical to make a point, but that point stands as is: Do not play with the faith of others just because you like the smell of Maronite incense. What is permissible absolutely does not matter. All things are lawful, but not all things edify.
 
Unless one of our other posters knows more than I and I welcome the (name removed by moderator)ut - but I don’t think there is any such thing as a particularly “Maronite” blend of incense. Every parish I have attended uses different incense. Here we change the incense every single day. 🤷
I don’t know enough about that, specifically. Perhaps you all can educate me more about this.
 
:hmmm: I fear I am entering something that might not end which I don’t even want to begin, so I will try to be brief in my response to you, Kornblatt, so as to discourage dialogue.

Put simply, there is little that can be said about your own motivations or religious knowledge, as neither are at issue. But it bears repeating that for the sake of those who use the incense with the understanding reflected in the Maronite prayer I posted, the question should not involve what is permitted, but what is acceptable (and, frankly, decent). For instance, before I was baptized into Orthodoxy I was a Roman Catholic, but I do not ask my Latin friends to design for me a zucchetto so that I may modify it with flashing lights or something, in order to still have the experience/sensory connection of wearing one but in a secular, non-religious context. Why? That would be ridiculous, and deeply disrespectful even if I didn’t mean it to be.

Granted, that’s an exaggerated hypothetical to make a point, but that point stands as is: Do not play with the faith of others just because you like the smell of Maronite incense. What is permissible absolutely does not matter. All things are lawful, but not all things edify.
Dzheremi: Dialogue is what brings us together, as long as we maintain our composure and work toward a common goal: mutual understanding. Dialogue is not, and has never been, a bad word or process.

I’m glad you mentioned that you recognized that the flashing lights was hyperbolic. I do not at all intend to PLAY with the faith of others, rather, I prefer to learn through experience. Knowledge is quite edifying, as long as it is done with the innocence of a child learning something for the first time (which would be me, with respect to the specifics of incense) and with the true goal being understanding, not looking for chinks in one’s honor or beliefs. I don’t believe Catholics, especially Maronites (again, I am most familiar with the Maronite church) display chinks or lapses in their beliefs, and I would not look for them. I have too much respect for you. I apologize if the way in which I asked my original question led anyone to believe that it was my intent to adulterate, play, or make light of anyone else’s rituals. I want to learn more and grow from that knowledge.
Unless one of our other posters knows more than I and I welcome the (name removed by moderator)ut - but I don’t think there is any such thing as a particularly “Maronite” blend of incense. Every parish I have attended uses different incense. Here we change the incense every single day. 🤷
Thank you for the polite addition to our conversation. I’m not playing with Maronite orders or censers, and, honestly, Maronite specifically (for those of you suggesting that I seem to have a chip or predilection for things Maronite), because it is part of my own family history. We, as mortals, do not have the right to attempt to determine the religious motives of others who seek knowledge and deeper understanding.

I’ll leave you all with this final though (as it is starting to get late): all Semitic people trace their roots to common ancestors. We are blood. We are family, oftentimes with differences of opinion on certain matters, but family nonetheless. When I travel throughout the Middle East (have done so several times around the entire region, not just Israel / Palestine), I see brothers and sisters, aunts and uncles, not religious fanatics or enemies of any persuasion.

I expect to be given credit for my own knowledge and my tolerance and attempts to understand everyone’s traditions and sacred components of their worship. That is why I work hard to speak my broken Hebrew in Israel, and my best use of the many Arabic dialects spoken throughout the region, from Palestine to Egypt to Jordan to Lebanon to Syria to Iraq.

If any of the readers of this thread have taken offense with anything I have said, I apologize. It is my duty to seek your forgiveness if I have disturbed you. I hope your moral codes permit you to dialogue with me and forgive any unintentional offense I may have caused you. I am deeply curious, highly-educated in matters or religion and language, and want nothing more than to learn. Aren’t we also commanded to study the Bible ad its many legitimate interpretations (be they from any religious tradition or significant individual, from the sitting Pope and previous Popes, to St. Maron and the other church-canonized saints, to Orthodox Christian Patriarchs, to Jewish scholars) as often as possible?

This is academic and emotional for me. I don’t wan to be aggressive or challenging toward anyone. Who among you would deny knowledge to someone. That is not the way our combined cultures work. Learning is stressed so incredibly heavily, right after belief itself.

I wish you all a good weekend, and most importantly, peace. Peace throughout the Middle East, and around the globe. Peace between individuals, groups, and nations. May we be lucky enough to see this in our lifetimes. If we disagree, that doesn’t mean we can’t make peace. Look at how often religious leaders disagree, themselves. There is no hatred or animosity there. Only opportunities for learning and growth. I suggest we learn a lesson from our own religious leaders and talk and share. It is only through common and shared growth that we can encourage and persuade our brethren to enact peace. Not only do I talk the talk, but I walk the walk. Who will join me in learning and sharing, where each person both shares and learns?
 
As a demonstration of my willingness to work with anyone and respect their feelings and concerns, dzherem, I, too, will end my discussion at this point, unless someone asks me a direct question.
 
Unless one of our other posters knows more than I and I welcome the (name removed by moderator)ut - but I don’t think there is any such thing as a particularly “Maronite” blend of incense. Every parish I have attended uses different incense. Here we change the incense every single day. 🤷
You’re correct: there is no such thing as a specifically “Maronite” blend of incense. For that matter, I’m not aware that a “standard recipe” is used by any Church, Oriental, Eastern, or Western.

No two blends of incense are exactly the same, not in the Middle East and not in the diaspora. Often it includes pure frankincense and pure myrrh, in varying proportions, with or without the addition of rose or gardenia or another floral essence, and/or shavings of a fragrant wood, etc. (There’s another resin which is fairly common in the Levant with is often used as a substitute for, or in addition to, frankincense, but I can’t recall the name at the moment. The aroma is a bit different and IIRC its smoke is slightly more acrid.)
 
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