Quick Q: Regards Sacrament of Martrimony

[1ke]

I’m left wondering why a CC baptism infuses someone into the Church for life

It is basic sacramental theology-- it is baptism that incorporates us into the Church. Moreover we receive the indwelling of the Holy Spirit at baptism AND the three theological virtues of faith, hope, and charity.

Regarding canonical status and authority of ecclesial law over one baptized in the Catholic Church, see the following canons:

Can. 11 Merely ecclesiastical laws bind those who have been baptized in the Catholic Church or received into it, possess the efficient use of reason, and, unless the law expressly provides otherwise, have completed seven years of age.

Can. 96 By baptism one is incorporated into the Church of Christ and is constituted a person in it with the duties and rights which are proper to Christians in keeping with their condition, insofar as they are in ecclesiastical communion and unless a legitimately issued sanction stands in the way.

Can. 111 §1. Through the reception of baptism, the child of parents who belong to the Latin Church is enrolled in it, or, if one or the other does not belong to it, both parents have chosen by mutual agreement to have the offspring baptized in the Latin Church. If there is no mutual agreement, however, the child is enrolled in the ritual Church to which the father belongs.

Can. 204 §1. The Christian faithful are those who, inasmuch as they have been incorporated in Christ through baptism, have been constituted as the people of God. For this reason, made sharers in their own way in Christ’s priestly, prophetic, and royal function, they are called to exercise the mission which God has entrusted to the Church to fulfill in the world, in accord with the condition proper to each.

§2. This Church, constituted and organized in this world as a society, subsists in the Catholic Church governed by the successor of Peter and the bishops in communion with him.

Can. 205 Those baptized are fully in the communion of the Catholic Church on this earth who are joined with Christ in its visible structure by the bonds of the profession of faith, the sacraments, and ecclesiastical governance.

Can. 849 Baptism, the gateway to the sacraments and necessary for salvation by actual reception or at least by desire, is validly conferred only by a washing of true water with the proper form of words. Through baptism men and women are freed from sin, are reborn as children of God, and, configured to Christ by an indelible character, are incorporated into the Church.

and not Confirmation?

This article might be a good one to read. Confirmation is grossly misunderstood these days.

ewtn.com/library/BISHOPS/ordsacinit.htm

And this great blog posting:

blog.adw.org/2010/04/clarifying-the-confusion-on-confirmation/

Why is someone unable to leave CC, especially when they were not raised properly in CC?

Because baptism imparts a character on your soul that cannot be removed.

 

[JaKael02]

This article might be a good one to read. Confirmation is grossly misunderstood these days.

ewtn.com/library/BISHOPS/ordsacinit.htm

I agree it is misunderstood. I’ve read a lot about confirmation and have still misunderstood it.

And this great blog posting:
blog.adw.org/2010/04/clarifying-the-confusion-on-confirmation/

Great blog. I read this and it was informative. I had a previous assumption that Confirmation was affirming the faith of the adult individual. A bad misconception. Thank you for the resources.

My archidiocese still have Confirmation at 16. Maybe that will change down the road some day. Our archdiocese does have catechsis classes on the Sacraments, these classes have been helpful in clearing up some misconceptions. More is always needed!

Because baptism imparts a character on your soul that cannot be removed.

Agreed!

 

[Vico]

JaKael02,

There is one more fact of interest. Under the 1983 canon law and up until Dec 21, 2010, one that formally left the Catholic Church was no longer bound to the Catholic form of matrimony (the Church, such as a bishop, had to be informed and acknowledge this for this to apply). The current law and the law before 1983 do not allow for any exception. So if that means when a formal declaration of defection was accepted by the Church, then there could have been a valid non-Catholic marriage for one baptized Catholic.

 

[JaKael02]

JaKael02,

There is one more fact of interest. Under the 1983 canon law and up until Dec 21, 2010, one that formally left the Catholic Church was no longer bound to the Catholic form of matrimony (the Church, such as a bishop, had to be informed and acknowledge this for this to apply). The current law and the law before 1983 do not allow for any exception. So if that means when a formal declaration of defection was accepted by the Church, then there could have been a valid non-Catholic marriage for one baptized Catholic.

Interesting. Thank you.

 

[joanofarc2008]

Either way - I would throw out that this is between your cousin, her fiance, and their priest. I do wonder why it affects you?

 

[Phemie]

JaKael02,

There is one more fact of interest. Under the 1983 canon law and up until Dec 21, 2010, one that formally left the Catholic Church was no longer bound to the Catholic form of matrimony (the Church, such as a bishop, had to be informed and acknowledge this for this to apply). The current law and the law before 1983 do not allow for any exception. So if that means when a formal declaration of defection was accepted by the Church, then there could have been a valid non-Catholic marriage for one baptized Catholic.

But in 13 years of working in a parish office I came across that official declaration exactly once. And it came from Germany where such declarations are more frequent to avoid paying Church tax.

 

[JaKael02]

Either way - I would throw out that this is between your cousin, her fiance, and their priest. I do wonder why it affects you?

Good question.

On why it affects me: I had some doubts about the character of one of the family members and was under the impression she was lying to her Priest to get married in CC because that is what the husband wanted. I wanted to verify before I draw that conclusion. However, I was wrong.

I’m at peace now.

Regards,

James

 

[Vico]

But in 13 years of working in a parish office I came across that official declaration exactly once. And it came from Germany where such declarations are more frequent to avoid paying Church tax.

There were many in Ireland, a 2010 article states: “According to the Dublin Archdiocese last year 229 people formally defected through their diocese and over 300 have done so far this year.”

irishcentral.com/news/Irish-service-offering–defection-from-Catholic-Church-is-suspended-104934549.html