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I did not graduate from Quigly, I graduated from St. Lawrence Seminary High School in Mt. Calvary, WI. I have a deep interest in Quigly however. When I attended St. Lawrence in the early '90s there were a number of upper classmen who had transferred to SLS when Quigley South closed. In recent years St. Lawrence and Quigly have been trying to cultivate a relationship and both schools feed into St. Joseph’s Seminary. In recent years, both schools have been increasing the number of young men who have decided to go on to college and major seminaries.
Everyone reading this forum should know that the demise of Quigly is a much more significant problem than it seems. It really signals the deathknell for minor seminaries in the US.
For those who do not realize, according the Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate (which keeps has kept the statistics of seminary formation for the last 40 years) there are presently on NINE high school seminaries in the United States and only four of them have enrollments over 100 - their total enrollment is 763 (down from a high of 20,139 young men in 171 high school level seminary programs in 1966). In 2005 Quigly has the highest enrollment at 270. The other seminaries are:
St. Lawrence Seminary High School - WI - 198
Immaculate Conception Apostolic School - NH - 102
Cathedral Preparatory Seminary - NY - 179
Immaculate Conception Camp Del Oro - CA - 25
Sacred Heart Apostolic School - IN - 17
Cathedral Prep Seminary House of Formation - NY - 30
Holy Cross Seminary House of Formation - WI - 4
Mt. St. Joseph Prep Seminary - CA - 1
As far back as 1967 and '68 the national Minor Seminary Conference was devoting much time to trying to figure out what a high school seminary meant in the United States because minor seminaries had already begun to close at a rapid clip even then.
There are MANY reasons why these schools closed, but the most frequent reason is because dioceses and religious orders did a sort-of cost/benefit analysis. Minor seminaries take huge amounts of resources to operate: money, human resources, interest, and space. Many dioceses and religious orders saw shrinking numbers of priests combined with the greater need for lay faculty (especially to meet accredidation standards) as too much of a cost for the benefit of just a few graduates going on to priesthood.
Should cost/benefit have been the answer. Probably NOT, but it was. Rather than evaluating whether is was the school, the modern world, or some combination of the two that was causing the decrese in the number of priests that the school produced. They shuttered their doors and shifted their resources to higher priorities.
A recent study by research Chris Smith at the University of North Carolina revealed that Catholic have the least success at developing our youth among all Christian denominations. Why? The answer is reflected in the closing of high school seminaries when things got tough. Somehow the youth with be formed elsewhere?
Final thoughts, what is success for a minor seminary given the overall lack of seminarians in general in the US?
When my class graduated from St. Lawrence in the mid-nineties there were 54 of us. Of that number about 10 of us (that I know of) formally explored vocations as Capuchins. 5 went on to college or major seminary and 2 were ordained priests. And, none of that counts the number of my brothers who seriously considered priesthood in their hearts, nor does it count all of those who discerened other equally holy vocations and went on to be devoted married men or even to work in the Church in various lay ministries (as I do).
Nearly 20% of my class seriously explored preistly and religious vocations AFTER graduation and nearly 4% became priests. I gurantee that that is much high than any average Catholic high school. Recently, four members of the class of 2004 became postulants of the Capuchin Province of St. Joseph. My understanding is that Quigley has been engaged in renewing its formation program under its current rector, Fr. Snieg, and has had a lot of success lately in sending young men to St. Joseph’s and Mundelein.
When Quigley closes its doors in will be giving up a tremendous patrimony, not only its building and other resources, but all of the effort that has gone to building and mainting it as institution … when they are lost does anyone actually think the archdiocese will EVER have the determination to try to build up another similar program from scratch … NEVER, the cost would be astronomical in this day and age.
For the sake of all of those who have benefitted from Quigley or any of the other “lost” minor seminaries I beg Cardinal George to not let this institution disappear.
St. Lawrence Seminary’s website can be viewed here: stlawrence.edu
Everyone reading this forum should know that the demise of Quigly is a much more significant problem than it seems. It really signals the deathknell for minor seminaries in the US.
For those who do not realize, according the Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate (which keeps has kept the statistics of seminary formation for the last 40 years) there are presently on NINE high school seminaries in the United States and only four of them have enrollments over 100 - their total enrollment is 763 (down from a high of 20,139 young men in 171 high school level seminary programs in 1966). In 2005 Quigly has the highest enrollment at 270. The other seminaries are:
St. Lawrence Seminary High School - WI - 198
Immaculate Conception Apostolic School - NH - 102
Cathedral Preparatory Seminary - NY - 179
Immaculate Conception Camp Del Oro - CA - 25
Sacred Heart Apostolic School - IN - 17
Cathedral Prep Seminary House of Formation - NY - 30
Holy Cross Seminary House of Formation - WI - 4
Mt. St. Joseph Prep Seminary - CA - 1
As far back as 1967 and '68 the national Minor Seminary Conference was devoting much time to trying to figure out what a high school seminary meant in the United States because minor seminaries had already begun to close at a rapid clip even then.
There are MANY reasons why these schools closed, but the most frequent reason is because dioceses and religious orders did a sort-of cost/benefit analysis. Minor seminaries take huge amounts of resources to operate: money, human resources, interest, and space. Many dioceses and religious orders saw shrinking numbers of priests combined with the greater need for lay faculty (especially to meet accredidation standards) as too much of a cost for the benefit of just a few graduates going on to priesthood.
Should cost/benefit have been the answer. Probably NOT, but it was. Rather than evaluating whether is was the school, the modern world, or some combination of the two that was causing the decrese in the number of priests that the school produced. They shuttered their doors and shifted their resources to higher priorities.
A recent study by research Chris Smith at the University of North Carolina revealed that Catholic have the least success at developing our youth among all Christian denominations. Why? The answer is reflected in the closing of high school seminaries when things got tough. Somehow the youth with be formed elsewhere?
Final thoughts, what is success for a minor seminary given the overall lack of seminarians in general in the US?
When my class graduated from St. Lawrence in the mid-nineties there were 54 of us. Of that number about 10 of us (that I know of) formally explored vocations as Capuchins. 5 went on to college or major seminary and 2 were ordained priests. And, none of that counts the number of my brothers who seriously considered priesthood in their hearts, nor does it count all of those who discerened other equally holy vocations and went on to be devoted married men or even to work in the Church in various lay ministries (as I do).
Nearly 20% of my class seriously explored preistly and religious vocations AFTER graduation and nearly 4% became priests. I gurantee that that is much high than any average Catholic high school. Recently, four members of the class of 2004 became postulants of the Capuchin Province of St. Joseph. My understanding is that Quigley has been engaged in renewing its formation program under its current rector, Fr. Snieg, and has had a lot of success lately in sending young men to St. Joseph’s and Mundelein.
When Quigley closes its doors in will be giving up a tremendous patrimony, not only its building and other resources, but all of the effort that has gone to building and mainting it as institution … when they are lost does anyone actually think the archdiocese will EVER have the determination to try to build up another similar program from scratch … NEVER, the cost would be astronomical in this day and age.
For the sake of all of those who have benefitted from Quigley or any of the other “lost” minor seminaries I beg Cardinal George to not let this institution disappear.
St. Lawrence Seminary’s website can be viewed here: stlawrence.edu