It is an unusual site, and somewhat hard to navigate IMO, but I thought it was interesting. And to answer your question, no we shouldn’t judge someone else’s conscience. But it seems to be popular to prove a point. BTW, I found a debate indexed on there where he was defending CCR as valid and fruitful with someone who feels it is invalid innovations from protestantism.
Gave me a whole new perspective on CCR. I am not very comfortable or familiar with it, but am trying to understand.
As to your point on his comments about being prideful. I think he made a fair assesment ( this is his opinion) how each extreme has it’s problems. I tend to agree with a prideful tendency to prove each other right. You have to admit that poking fun and mocking others to prove they are wrong is being prideful that “we got it right and you don’t”. I don’t know how else to describe it or feel about most of these debates.
I would like to know why it is so important to make other people feel foolish. ( I am certainly not saying that you did that, I’m just asking why it’s so prevelent) I thought making fun of people at Mass-I assume the picture was at a Mass-who were holding hands had no other intent but to say, “If you can see yourself here, you look stupid.”
It’s never enough to say I don’t agree with it and don’t want anyone to force me to do it. Or, IMO it goes against the rubrics and here’s my evidence/reasoning.
The problem, IMO, is that there isn’t enough taught on the subject to prove it wrong. There is no lack of opinion on it however. But, opinion is still opinion, not necessarily the truth.
It seems to me these debates, exhaustive as they are, always come back to the same thing. Comfort level and how it looks.
Those for it are continually reminded that they shouldn’t buy into doing something because it feels good. But the bottom line on the cons side is always-it makes me uncomfortable or it doesn’t look right to me, it looks silly, feels silly, I’m not touchy feely. Those are all valid opinions and feelings.
I wonder what would happen if someone posted a picture of people praying at Mass, standing perfectly straight with hands in perfect “praying hands” posture and made comments as derogatory as those that have been made on the other side?
I can think of quite a few hateful rejoinders to counter things such as; "gettin mo God on me. Goin for the touchdown. What’s next clowns and jugglers? What no confetti?
But I won’t.
judicame:
According to the Catholic Encyclopedia, the Orans gesture traditionally has quite a specific meaning:
Is it a worthy replacement for the humble personal devotion lost during the 1960s and 70s?
Unusual looking site. Some perspectives and presumptions I have not seen before. I will have to take a closer look when I get the chance.
I’ve seen the accusation of Pride levelled at traditional Catholics before. I have to say I find it a very strange accusation for one man to level at another; more so than accusing someone else of the sin of ridicule. Are we qualified to judge the conscience of others in this way?
