Rand Paul: Without change, GOP will "not win again in my lifetime"

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=Cricket2;11716948]I can only say that there is a lot of change needed in this party. But mimicking Reagan won’t help anyone or anything. I can never figure out why people think Reagan was such a great President. He almost destroyed California when he was Governor, and then did the same when he got in the President’s position, to the nation.
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Reagen created jobs and implemented policies that led to the end of the USSR.
Some of his “bottom line” ideas is what helped get us into the economic quagmire we are in now.
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:rotfl:

So typical of the left to blame everyone else for their problems.

We are in quagmire because of Barack H. Obama, Joesph Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Charles Schumer, and the American mainstream media.
 
It is hard for me to believe that a serious GOP candidate would carelessly feature such a hateful person so prominently in his campaign. Americans by-and-large do not support outrageously hateful behavior. If GOP candidates persist in such strategies, they should be doomed.

By Mark Z. Barabak
February 18, 2014, 6:00 a.m.

Kids say the darnedest things. Grown-ups, too. Otherwise, what would fill all those hours of reality TV? How could we possibly survive the dreaded work function without the benefit of an occasional indiscretion to enliven the forced merriment?

We may laugh, or cringe, but we usually don’t blame those in close proximity for the offensive, weird or wacky things others say in their presence.

In politics, though, it’s different. By accepting someone’s backing, or inviting them onto the campaign stage, there is often an assumption the sentiment runs both ways: Someone endorses a candidate and the candidate, therefore, embraces their supporter and their worldview.

Which explains why Texas Democrats were eager to welcome Ted Nugent, the sexagenarian rocker, to their state with a catalog of his provocative pronouncements ahead of his scheduled appearance Tuesday alongside the GOP’s likely gubernatorial nominee, state Atty. Gen. Greg Abbott.

To wit: Nugent’s recent description of President Obama as “a Chicago communist-raised, communist-educated, communist-nurtured subhuman mongrel … ACORN community organizer gangster.” (This run-on characterization as per the Dallas Morning News, quoting Nugent at a Las Vegas hunting and outdoor trade show last month.)

Or, regarding various female political leaders, Nugent’s alleged use of the words "brain-dead soulless idiot,” “varmints,” "fat pigs” and “dirty whores,” to cite only some of the vocabulary. (A compilation courtesy of Annie’s List, a Texas group that works to recruit and elect women candidates.)

The Abbott campaign released a statement Monday putting a bit of distance between the candidate and Nugent’s piquant opinions, if not the man himself.

“Ted Nugent is a forceful advocate for individual liberty and constitutional rights – especially the 2nd Amendment rights cherished by Texans,” said Matt Hirsch, an Abbott spokesman. “While he may sometimes say things or use language that Greg Abbott would not endorse or agree with, we appreciate the support of everyone who supports protecting our Constitution.”

The curious thing about the episode is not that Nugent says things that many find so blazingly offensive; his fulminating rants against Obama have made him a folk hero to some on the far right. Rather, it is why Abbott, a strong favorite in November to beat Democratic hopeful Wendy Davis, would invite Nugent, and the ensuing controversy, into the race.

latimes.com/nation/politics/politicsnow/la-pn-ted-nugent-texas-politics-20140218,0,4022825.story#ixzz2thADNSnN
 
Geist said:
An increasingly less white population (which is itself split between D and R since whites don’t vote as a bloc) means the GOP is shut out of the WH and many statewide elections like the Senate.

They’ll keep the House for the foreseeable future though.
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We’ll see. If the GOP can get it together, the non-whites, single women and union workers will tune the academia and media elite of the left.
 
HCTC said:
It is hard for me to believe that a serious GOP candidate would carelessly feature such a hateful person so prominently in his campaign. Americans by-and-large do not support outrageously hateful behavior. If GOP candidates persist in such strategies, they should be doomed.
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By Mark Z. Barabak
February 18, 2014, 6:00 a.m.
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That article is just an attempt to make Abbot’s opponent look good. As dedicated mainstream media outlet, the LA Times mission in life is to help the DNC as much as possible.

That’s all this is, and you were taken in 110% by it. :sadyes:

This is why America is being run by the people that it is.

But if those are you want to talk about hateful strategies, what do you think of this:

townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2014/01/23/caught-on-video-wendy-davis-supporters-openly-mock-greg-abbott-for-being-in-a-wheelchair-n1783613 :mad:

As a person with a disability, that is just one more reason for me to vote GOP, which I plan on doing in full.
 
SuperLuigi said:
That article is just an attempt to make Abbot’s opponent look good. As dedicated mainstream media outlet, the LA Times mission in life is to help the DNC as much as possible.
Right… If it weren’t for “the liberal media,” the GOP would rule the world… And if Mr, Abbott
had not invited hateful Ted Nugent up onto his stage, there would be nothing to report. The GOP is it’s own worst enemy, IMHO.
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HCTC said:
It is hard for me to believe that a serious GOP candidate would carelessly feature such a hateful person so prominently in his campaign. Americans by-and-large do not support outrageously hateful behavior. If GOP candidates persist in such strategies, they should be doomed.
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It’s hard for me to believe that a serious Dem candidate would be supportive of the murder and murderers of 50 million children,and counting. If Dem candidates persist in such strategies, they should be doomed.
 
Ridgerunner said:
It’s hard for me to believe that a serious Dem candidate would be supportive of the murder and murderers of 50 million children,and counting. If Dem candidates persist in such strategies, they should be doomed.
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If you are referencing the matter of abortion, as a Catholic I believe that children are a blessing from Almighty God, and that we should submit to the will of God. Abortion is an abhorrent insult to God. That is my faith. However, just as I would not want to live under Sharia law, I think that government should meddle as little as possible in a matter that for some comes under the heading of women’s health issues. I do, however, completely support government policies that offer financial support for pregnant women in need. And I consider the ACA such a policy.
 
HCTC said:
If you are referencing the matter of abortion, as a Catholic I believe that children are a blessing from Almighty God, and that we should submit to the will of God. Abortion is an abhorrent insult to God. That is my faith. However, just as I would not want to live under Sharia law, I think that government should meddle as little as possible in a matter that for some come under the heading of women’s health issues. I do, however, completely support government policies that offer financial support for pregnant women in need. And I consider the ACA such a policy.
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Ah, well then you should have no problem with it if women are empowered to kill their children after birth as well. Raising a child, especially an infant, can have a hard effect on one’s health.

Then there are the elderly. Caring for them is often very difficult and costs a lot. And their health often goes bad. So if one of them wants to end it…??? Or if a burdened relative wants to end it…???

One’s faith should inform one’s actions when it comes to the most basic of moral principles. If one rejects such moral principles, then one rejects the Author of them as well.
 
If the Republicans could manage to nominate a presidential candidate who believes in evolution, I would vote for him or her.

However, I doubt whether that will actually happen in my (or Rand Paul’s) lifetime.
 
Geist said:
The GOP will never hold the White House or Senate again. Demographically impossible.
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Agreed.

Ron Paul was the last shot for the GOP. Couple that with the fact that Romney couldn’t even buy the election and it should be obvious that the GOP is finished.
 
Rand Paul is right, the GOP needs to change. The first change I would recommend: get rid of Rand Paul.
 
HansTrappist said:
Agreed.

Ron Paul was the last shot for the GOP. Couple that with the fact that Romney couldn’t even buy the election and it should be obvious that the GOP is finished.
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Ron Paul - LOL. A 77 year old libertarian was the last shot for the GOP? Everyone needs to take a step back. In 1988 some we’re saying the Democrat party was doomed. Now some are saying that about the GOP. Why they forget is how inept the Democrat party is and how fail prone liberalism is. It is already starting with Obamacare. I have my doubt about the GOPs ability to capitalize on the democrat mistakes, but in no way are they finished. Look at how successful they are at the state level.

Ishii
 
Right… If it weren’t for “the liberal media,” the GOP would rule the world…
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Sorry, the GOP doesn’t have the same dream to rule the planet that some liberals do.

Open questions:

Why do liberals always have to exaggerate?

Also, why was that comment focused on only one aspect of what I wrote thus misrepresenting what I said?
And if Mr, Abbott
had not invited hateful Ted Nugent up onto his stage, there would be nothing to report. The GOP is it’s own worst enemy, IMHO.
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Posting 101:

Anytime I see IMHO it’s a bad sign.

Further, the post failed to address my comments about the democrat’s campaign making fun of Greg Abbot for being in a wheelchair.

That’s more hateful than anything Ted Nugent has ever said, and it’s pathetic :sadyes: that the left needs that in order to compete with Abbot because liberalism = failure. 😃
 
VanSensei said:
The GOP will win the House or White House the day moderate Republicans start gaining some clout, first of all. Second of all, Ohio and Florida need to get their act together when it comes to elections. They could significantly shift an election one way.
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I am really not so sure about that. I must be the only moderate Republican left in the state of Texas.

With an upcoming primary there are many political ads running right now. And all of them are in a rush to be further right than the other. Texas is no longer a Republican state, it is a Tea Party state.
 
Judging by the tenor of some of these posts. The GOP is barely hanging onto it’s collective water. As we already know, this next election will hold the fate of 2016 in the palm of it’s hand. If more TEA Party enthusiasts (TP’ers) earn seats. The White House will fall to the Democrats. What to do you ask? Abandon the far right wing albatross that is hanging around your collective necks. Assume the position of dignity, and be willing to work with the otherside. Even if the otherside is the Democrats. Use what power and influence you have remaining, and show that you are made of better stuff.

ATB
 
SuperLuigi said:
Further, the post failed to address my comments about the democrat’s campaign making fun of Greg Abbot for being in a wheelchair.

That’s more hateful than anything Ted Nugent has ever said, and it’s pathetic :sadyes: that the left needs that in order to compete with Abbot because liberalism = failure. 😃
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With all due respect, if you want to defend hateful speech, that is on you. After all, both the hateful speech and your defense of hateful speech is certainly a right in this country.
 
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